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Being a Lefty & an atheist, Mitt's religion means very little to me but it means a heck of a lot to the Repub/t-party base if they practice what they preach
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If I was going to discuss any shortcomings of Romney, I wouldn't choose his religion, but perhaps his Health Care Program. His religion means nothing to me and would mean nothing to the country if he was president.
Would you have the same opinion if Rick Perry suddenly proclaimed himself a satanist on fox news?
Even better
What if he declared himself a witch?
Those who do not study and honor history are doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again.
The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."
"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."
Perry's campaign quickly distanced itself from the words of the pastor. The Texas governor, according to campaign spokesman Mark Miner, does not believe Mormonism is a cult.
First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian
if we have learned anything ....its that one cannot distance themselves from their ministers
the religious destruction of romney has began....and will continue
You mean the, magic underwear?o come on sunni....you just wanna discuss them special garments.......dont ya
You mean the, magic underwear?o come on sunni....you just wanna discuss them special garments.......dont ya
Only if they come from Victoria's Secret.
You mean the, magic underwear?
Only if they come from Victoria's Secret.
Then they would not be magic, they would just be expensive.
Romney is a moral and ethical man. Mormonism is not considered to be "Christian" and has been thoroughly debated.
The most simple and direct route of answering the question of Mormons being Christian is to ask them if they believe the single most fundamental tenets of the Christian religion, by asking them if can agree with the Nicene Creed. They will have to answer no.
That said...Romney would make a fine president. He is a Mormon- the last time I looked Mormon's are good people with fine moral characters- I don't know about you, but I want my president to know how to lead a nation, not a church. His faith is personal. If that faith causes him to believe that he must impose his beliefs on our nation, then they become central to my concern- but if they merely provide him with a moral compass- then I applaud them.
This is going to be an interesting primary season. The Teabaggers and other radicals now seem to dominate the GOP.
.the special blessed garments that will stop bullets....
It was kind of funny how the pastor stressed the importance of voting for a Christian over a non-Christian,
then turned around later and said he would vote for Romney over Obama.
Romney is a moral and ethical man. Mormonism is not considered to be "Christian" and has been thoroughly debated.
The most simple and direct route of answering the question of Mormons being Christian is to ask them if they believe the single most fundamental tenets of the Christian religion, by asking them if can agree with the Nicene Creed. They will have to answer no.
That said...Romney would make a fine president. He is a Mormon- the last time I looked Mormon's are good people with fine moral characters- I don't know about you, but I want my president to know how to lead a nation, not a church. His faith is personal. If that faith causes him to believe that he must impose his beliefs on our nation, then they become central to my concern- but if they merely provide him with a moral compass- then I applaud them.
Actually, my expereinces with Mormons has led me to NEVER want one in the white house or anywhere near the levers of power. I've never met phonier, sneakier people in my life.
Also, if the candidate believes batshit crazy nonsense made up by a con man who wanted to have sex with teenage girls, I really don't want him to have access to nukes, do you?
I have a girlfriend who is Mormon- she is hardly bat-shit crazy. She's an average hard working mother and wife. She is principled and generous. I admit that this is my only reference point.
Obama's Christian background is black liberation theology- That is an angry self entitled dogma...I will take a Mormon over that any day of the week- but I digress, I am not electing a pastor- but a president.
I have a girlfriend who is Mormon- she is hardly bat-shit crazy. She's an average hard working mother and wife. She is principled and generous. I admit that this is my only reference point.
Obama's Christian background is black liberation theology- That is an angry self entitled dogma...I will take a Mormon over that any day of the week- but I digress, I am not electing a pastor- but a president.
You don't think black people have reasons to be angry? Seriously?
My only reference point is a bunch of backstabbing LDS I met in the Army. Snakey bastards. Scumwads. Lowlifes.
That was before I actually started reading up on their batshit crazy beliefs like being Gods on their own worlds, Magic Underpants and all the other things that make me want to be sure we never have one near the nukes.
Is there a difference between Magic underpants and wearing a means of execution around your neck?
Is there a difference between Magic underpants and wearing a means of execution around your neck?
My own opinion. Not much.
Except that we can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Jesus wasn't real. I find the story improbable, and I don't personally believe the mysticism of it. I even speculate that the Jesus story was an amaglamation of other mythical characters that might have gotten tacked onto a real person.
(Philosophically, have no problem with Christianity. Lots of good advice there on how to live your life.)
There's really so such wiggle room with Joseph Smith and Mormonism.
It's a fraud. And worse, it's badly done fraud.
We know that there were no Hebrews in pre-Columbian America.
We know that the Book of Abraham was a 1st century funerary scroll.
We know that their are no Quakers-dressed giants living on the moon like Joseph Smith said.
We know that the Kinderhook tablets were fakes made by Smith's neighbors to punk him.
We know there were no elephants, camels, horses, coins, chariots, towered cities, various grains described or other things that Smith claimed there were in the Nephite nation.
We know why some people have darker skin than others. It's Melatin, not a curse from God.
In short, we know that Mormonism is bullshit, and that anyone who believes in it is either deluded or self-deluded.
So maybe Mitt thinks his underpants are magic, but I'm not going to let him near the nukes.