Israel's Legal Right To Exist

[montelatici]

DNA markers overwhelming support European ancestry of European Jews. Southern Europeans have as much ME ancestry as European Jews, Spanish (1492) Jews included. The funniest thing is that the latest genome study used Palestinians and Druze genomes to see how close European Jews were to the indigenous people of the area. LOL So, the best we can say that the indigenous people are the Palestinians and that the Zionists had some indigenous genes of the indigenous people. So, did these Europeans have the right to expel the indigenous people?

 

[Shusha]

Alright then. I accept your parameters. Sovereignty is to be determined by DNA.

So, paternal or maternal?

Percentage?

How do we differentiate between close groups?

If you have ancestry from more than one group are you excluded from all of them? Any of them? Is it highest-percentage-wins?

Should people be required to move from their place of residence based on their DNA? I mean if it turns out I am Irish and Scots and German, does that mean I am only permitted to live in Germany or Scotland or Ireland?

How do we determine nationalities like American or Canadian?

Are immigrants excepted? When? Which ones? What about immigrant children. I mean, their DNA will be wrong, right? So how do we protect their rights?

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[Shusha]

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[montelatici]

Alright then. I accept your parameters. Sovereignty is to be determined by DNA.

So, paternal or maternal?

Percentage?

How do we differentiate between close groups?

If you have ancestry from more than one group are you excluded from all of them? Any of them? Is it highest-percentage-wins?

Should people be required to move from their place of residence based on their DNA? I mean if it turns out I am Irish and Scots and German, does that mean I am only permitted to live in Germany or Scotland or Ireland?

How do we determine nationalities like American or Canadian?

Are immigrants excepted? When? Which ones? What about immigrant children. I mean, their DNA will be wrong, right? So how do we protect their rights?

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Well the Hasbara troll questioning bullshit is getting tiring. The fact is, people from Europe went to Palestine, expelled the native people and took over. That's the problem. Or, more specifically, the Europeans were unable to eliminate the native people completely as they planned to do.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Alright then. I accept your parameters. Sovereignty is to be determined by DNA.

So, paternal or maternal?

Percentage?

How do we differentiate between close groups?

If you have ancestry from more than one group are you excluded from all of them? Any of them? Is it highest-percentage-wins?

Should people be required to move from their place of residence based on their DNA? I mean if it turns out I am Irish and Scots and German, does that mean I am only permitted to live in Germany or Scotland or Ireland?

How do we determine nationalities like American or Canadian?

Are immigrants excepted? When? Which ones? What about immigrant children. I mean, their DNA will be wrong, right? So how do we protect their rights?

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What a stupid argument. The question of who is a Palestinian and their rights as citizens was established by international law long ago.

 

[Hollie]

Alright then. I accept your parameters. Sovereignty is to be determined by DNA.

So, paternal or maternal?

Percentage?

How do we differentiate between close groups?

If you have ancestry from more than one group are you excluded from all of them? Any of them? Is it highest-percentage-wins?

Should people be required to move from their place of residence based on their DNA? I mean if it turns out I am Irish and Scots and German, does that mean I am only permitted to live in Germany or Scotland or Ireland?

How do we determine nationalities like American or Canadian?

Are immigrants excepted? When? Which ones? What about immigrant children. I mean, their DNA will be wrong, right? So how do we protect their rights?

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Well the Hasbara troll questioning bullshit is getting tiring. The fact is, people from Europe went to Palestine, expelled the native people and took over. That's the problem. Or, more specifically, the Europeans were unable to eliminate the native people completely as they planned to do.

You're referring to the European xtian Crusaders, correct?

 

[Shusha]

Alright then. I accept your parameters. Sovereignty is to be determined by DNA.

So, paternal or maternal?

Percentage?

How do we differentiate between close groups?

If you have ancestry from more than one group are you excluded from all of them? Any of them? Is it highest-percentage-wins?

Should people be required to move from their place of residence based on their DNA? I mean if it turns out I am Irish and Scots and German, does that mean I am only permitted to live in Germany or Scotland or Ireland?

How do we determine nationalities like American or Canadian?

Are immigrants excepted? When? Which ones? What about immigrant children. I mean, their DNA will be wrong, right? So how do we protect their rights?

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What a stupid argument. The question of who is a Palestinian and their rights as citizens was established by international law long ago.

Of course it's a stupid argument. Will you inform monte of that, please. And I agree we know who the Palestinians are. You and I agree on this point. It was all the residents in 1925 plus all the Jewish people who wanted to return and make their homes there.

 

[MJB12741]

When DNA markers demonstrate that people claiming ancestry in the Middle East have overwhelming European ancestry, it is a false claim.

Well, DNA markers overwhelmingly support ME ancestry in all Jewish populations.

BUT...again, you are claiming DNA as the definitive measure of rights to ancestral territory, then. Okay. How much DNA would any particular person have to test positive for in order to have a right to self-determination on their ancestral land? I mean, just how would we go about testing for this? Do we hold clinics?

OK, DNA. How about all Muslim kohanim Palestinians can stay in Israel

 

[montelatici]

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree"

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

 

[montelatici]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

 

[MJB12741]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

Good boy Monte. Thank you for finally realizing most Palestinians are genetically similar to "Ashkanazi" Jews who you & your ilk claim ARE NOT indigenous to the land of Israel. The DNA findings back this up.

From your article. "The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup."

 

[montelatici]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

Good boy Monte. Thank you for finally realizing most Palestinians are genetically similar to "Ashkanazi" Jews who you & your ilk claim ARE NOT indigenous to the land of Israel. The DNA findings back this up.

From your article. "The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup."

So are Italians, heh, heh, heh.

You don't have a clue about genetics, do you. The Palestinians are the purest, in terms of having genes similar to those of the ancient people of the area.

The Ashkenazi are Europeans with some Middle Eastern genes, about the same as Greeks, Italians, Spanish gentiles.

"It has been noted in many studies that there is a close genetic similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Southern Italians/Greeks.

The four major founders of the Ashkenazi Jew population have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, and not the Caucus or the Near East. The four minor founders share a deep European ancestry. So with genetic testing, we can see that the majority of the Ashkenazi population didn’t have its origins in the Caucus or Levant, but through assimilation of Roman women who converted to Judaism."

Southern Italians and Ashkenazi Jews: What Is the Connection?

 

[MJB12741]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

Good boy Monte. Thank you for finally realizing most Palestinians are genetically similar to "Ashkanazi" Jews who you & your ilk claim ARE NOT indigenous to the land of Israel. The DNA findings back this up.

From your article. "The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup."

So are Italians, heh, heh, heh.

You don't have a clue about genetics, do you. The Palestinians are the purest, in terms of having genes similar to those of the ancient people of the area.

The Ashkenazi are Europeans with some Middle Eastern genes, about the same as Greeks, Italians, Spanish gentiles.

"It has been noted in many studies that there is a close genetic similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Southern Italians/Greeks.

The four major founders of the Ashkenazi Jew population have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, and not the Caucus or the Near East. The four minor founders share a deep European ancestry. So with genetic testing, we can see that the majority of the Ashkenazi population didn’t have its origins in the Caucus or Levant, but through assimilation of Roman women who converted to Judaism."

Southern Italians and Ashkenazi Jews: What Is the Connection?

Eh Monte. Southern Italians don't claim Israel's land as their indigenous homeland like Muslim Palestinian squatters do.

 

[Shusha]

... The Palestinians are the purest, in terms of having genes similar to those of the ancient people of the area.

Wait. Wait. Did the notion of racial purity actually just become part of this conversation?

 

[montelatici]

No, the European Jews who have the same amount of Middle East DNA as southern Europeans stole the land under false pretenses and are squatting on the land of the indigenous people of Palestine.

 

[Shusha]

Hmmmmm. Racial purity as a basis for sovereignty and territorial control. Now, where have I heard that before?

 

[Hollie]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

Good boy Monte. Thank you for finally realizing most Palestinians are genetically similar to "Ashkanazi" Jews who you & your ilk claim ARE NOT indigenous to the land of Israel. The DNA findings back this up.

From your article. "The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup."

So are Italians, heh, heh, heh.

You don't have a clue about genetics, do you. The Palestinians are the purest, in terms of having genes similar to those of the ancient people of the area.

The Ashkenazi are Europeans with some Middle Eastern genes, about the same as Greeks, Italians, Spanish gentiles.

"It has been noted in many studies that there is a close genetic similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Southern Italians/Greeks.

The four major founders of the Ashkenazi Jew population have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, and not the Caucus or the Near East. The four minor founders share a deep European ancestry. So with genetic testing, we can see that the majority of the Ashkenazi population didn’t have its origins in the Caucus or Levant, but through assimilation of Roman women who converted to Judaism."

Southern Italians and Ashkenazi Jews: What Is the Connection?

That's fascinating. The invented Pal'istanians have the.purest genes of the invading European Crusaders, Turk and Mongol invaders?

I have an urge to point and laugh whenever Monty launches into one of his "race" tirades.

 

[MJB12741]

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews
AUGUST 21, 2016, 10:07 AM

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

Good boy Monte. Thank you for finally realizing most Palestinians are genetically similar to "Ashkanazi" Jews who you & your ilk claim ARE NOT indigenous to the land of Israel. The DNA findings back this up.

From your article. "The Palestinian Arabs, who are descendants of Jews, are very close to Ashkenazi Jews in their gene makeup."

So are Italians, heh, heh, heh.

You don't have a clue about genetics, do you. The Palestinians are the purest, in terms of having genes similar to those of the ancient people of the area.

The Ashkenazi are Europeans with some Middle Eastern genes, about the same as Greeks, Italians, Spanish gentiles.

"It has been noted in many studies that there is a close genetic similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Southern Italians/Greeks.

The four major founders of the Ashkenazi Jew population have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, and not the Caucus or the Near East. The four minor founders share a deep European ancestry. So with genetic testing, we can see that the majority of the Ashkenazi population didn’t have its origins in the Caucus or Levant, but through assimilation of Roman women who converted to Judaism."

Southern Italians and Ashkenazi Jews: What Is the Connection?

That's fascinating. The invented Pal'istanians have the.purest genes of the invading European Crusaders, Turk and Mongol invaders?

I have an urge to point and laugh whenever Monty launches into one of his "race" tirades.

Yes, he is fun to play with.

 

[Challenger]

Hmmmmm. Racial purity as a basis for sovereignty and territorial control. Now, where have I heard that before?

Zionism.

 

[MJB12741]

There is no "racial purity" for any White person.