1. Ok, when we talk about the 'occupation' we talk only about the area that people call the west bank, Judea and Samaria.
It is a well known mistake to think about it as an occupied land. But occupied from whom? Jordan? why Jordan never claimed that land? for which OFFICIAL state the Israeli government took this land by force? none, that is.
There is no official "Palestine" in field, so how can people say we "took the land by force"? That is what I don't get. Israel gained that land only because Jordan, which took this land by force in 48, lost it.
Right now it's "undefined" piece of land. undefined is not occupied. that is why we need a policy that decides exactly what to do there. If it's Israel, FINE. If it's not, FINE. but don't dcrew up the people mind anymore.
No, this is not an un-defined area. It is clearly defined and has been for decades. This is an "occupation" and nothing you can say, can spin that in anything else.
Here's the area from a legal standpoint, not your opinionated one...
Settlements, settler violence and the lack of law enforcement:
» A root cause of the phenomenon is Israel’s decades-long policy of facilitating and encouraging the settling of its citizens inside occupied Palestinian territory (oPt), defined as transfer of population and prohibited by international humanitarian law (IHL).
» Under IHL and international human rights law, Israel is responsible for ensuring public order and safety and protecting the civilian population in the occupied territory. As the occupying force in the West Bank, responsibility for implementing this obligation falls to the IDF.
» In spite of clearly defined legal responsibilities and some recent efforts undertaken by the IDF and Israeli police, the relevant Israeli authorities have failed to adequately enforce the rule of law when it comes to Israeli settlers carrying out acts of violence against Palestinians and their property in the West Bank. For example, according to the Israeli human rights group Yesh Din, over 90% of investigations into settler violence are closed without an indictment being filed. By contrast, when Israeli civilians are the target of Palestinian violence, the IDF actively pursues Palestinian suspects; thousands of Palestinians are arrested and prosecuted through Israel’s military court system each year.
90% are closed without indictments. Israeli's have absolutely no respect for the law and for that, they can go to hell.
Are you talking about the evacuation from Gaza? Let me tell you something, because you can't give, what you don't have. And Israel does not have that land. It is not theirs to give. They need to just leave.
How does a house get involved in terror? Palestinian's firing rockets into the OPT is not terrorism. Using indescriminate weapons is a war crime, but a military response from the Palestinian's, should be treated as "self-defense".
Here's a few statistics for you...
**** you and that bullshit! They're no different than any other parents. You need to demonize them so you can feel better about the tyranny you inflict on them on a daily basis.
So now you do refer to them as the "occupier". First you infer they're not, now you say they are. I think you need to look up what an "occupation" is, because it's a pretty specific thing with certain requirements the occupying force must adhere to.
You're looking in the wrong direction, because the entire world say's you're the problem.
The whole world condemns Israeli actions in this area and all you wanna do is talk about the Palestinian's.
Don't talk about other peoples morals after the shit you just got done saying about their parents and children.
They're always terrorists.
You give me a story, now I have one for you...
BTW, that same attitude the soldiers had at the checkpoint, I can see in your posts. That's why you have to demonize the Palestinian's. Because what you're doing is so evil, it goes way beyond description.
No, they've listened to citizens under attack. Palestinian citizens. That's why you feel the need to discredit them. They don't tow the Likud Party line.
You're projecting. And you're also jumping through hoops to defend inhuman acts by the Israeli's.
I would have liked to see those peace activists and human rights activists, just ONCE, doing something for the southerners.
I end this with another story on Israeli bullshit.
BLOCKED AT EVERY TURN
‘Adel ‘Omar, aged 21, died on 17 February 2007 after Israeli soldiers delayed his passage at the gate between the village of Azzun ‘Atmeh and the nearby town of Qalqilya. ‘Adel ‘Omar had been injured in a tractor accident. The village is surrounded by the fence/wall, and the only way out of it is through a gate which closes at 10pm. ‘Adel arrived at the checkpoint after 10pm and the soldiers did not open the gate for over an hour. He was still alive when he was allowed to pass, but died before he reached the hospital, only a few kilometres from the gate.
Such deaths are not a new phenomenon. Rula ‘Ashtiya, for example, was forced to give birth on the ground, on a dirt road by the Beit Furik checkpoint, after Israeli soldiers refused to allow her through the checkpoint in the early morning of 26 August 2003. Her baby girl died soon after. Rula was in labour and was on her way to Nablus hospital, only a few minutes away. The soldiers manning the checkpoint took no notice of her condition and obvious distress, not of her husband’s pleading. They did not ask to check their IDs and simply told them they could not pass. Only after Rula had given birth and her baby had died did the soldiers allow her and her husband and their dead baby to pass through the checkpoint.
**** Israel!