"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[Roudy]

That's true.

But Israel's policies don't affect Antisemites!

Those who hate Israelis and Jews won't start "loving" us even if we give up on all of our rights and drown ourselves in sea.

And those who simply don't agree with our policies for honest reasons, won't become antisemites because of those.

So no, Antisemitism has NOTHING to do with Israel's policies.

Do American actions affect how people around the world feel about Americans?

Of course.

Do events in France affect how people freel about the French? You bet.

Are opinions about the British influenced by British foreign policies? Surely.

That's why opinions about Jews are affected by the actions of The Jewish State.

Its all the same logic. Understand?

Faulty logic. Middle Eastern states do not operate like that. A Western country acting like they "care what they're thinking" is simply perceived as weakness and capitulation and will only embolden them to continue with even more aggression and violence. That is one of the reason's Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East has been a failure and a total disaster.

 

[Lipush]

That's true.

But Israel's policies don't affect Antisemites!

Those who hate Israelis and Jews won't start "loving" us even if we give up on all of our rights and drown ourselves in sea.

And those who simply don't agree with our policies for honest reasons, won't become antisemites because of those.

So no, Antisemitism has NOTHING to do with Israel's policies.

Do American actions affect how people around the world feel about Americans?

Of course.

Do events in France affect how people freel about the French? You bet.

Are opinions about the British influenced by British foreign policies? Surely.

That's why opinions about Jews are affected by the actions of The Jewish State.

Its all the same logic. Understand?

Antisemitism is rooted in people for hundreds of years, and more.

So your comparison is incorrect.

 

[Lipush]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

Speak for yourself.

 

[Roudy]

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

The overwhelming majority of my co-workers are not Jews and they love it when Israel kills terrorists that hide behind children.

Brainwashed Americans would feel that way. Thankfully, the rest of the world thinks differently.

The rest of the world thinks it's okay to use your own women and kids as human shields when attacking? Which world do you live in?

 

[Roudy]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

Is that why they were dancing in the streets and eating sweets on 9-11?

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[Indeependent]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

 

[Roudy]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

He and his Muslim friends.

 

[Victory67]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

 

[Roudy]

Palestine is not our enemy.

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

You must be writing from Pakistan. Palestine ranks at the bottom of the list when it comes to likability, and Israel is among the top.

 

[Lipush]

Palestine is not our enemy.

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

 

[P F Tinmore]

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

 

[Roudy]

To whom are you referring with the word "our"?

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

OMG! You're kidding me! Wot a surprise!

 

[Roudy]

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

Yes, very interesting. Suddenly Tinmore is incapable of using a search engine. Look for yourself, here are some samples of the animals in action:

American Victims

A bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny of New Haven, CT, and wounded more than 100. U.S. citizens injured: Chanoch Bleier, Judith Shulewitz, Bernard Batta.

A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device outside the Dizengoff Center, Tel Aviv's largest shopping mall, killing 20 persons and injuring 75 others, including two U.S. citizens. Both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the bombing. U.S. citizens injured included Julie K. Negrin of Seattle, WA.

A member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seized control of the steering wheel of a crowded bus enroute from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and drove the bus off a cliff in the area of Kiryat Ye'arim. 16 civilians were killed, including two Canadians and one American.

Two bombs detonated in Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, killing 15 persons, including a U.S. citizen and wounding 168 others, among them two U.S. citizens. The Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. citizens killed: Mrs. Leah Stern of Passaic, NJ. U.S. citizens injured: Dov Dalin.

Bombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens killed: Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles and Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Diana Campuzano of New York, Abraham Mendelson of Los Angeles, CA, Greg Salzman of New Jersey, Stuart E. Hersh of Kiryat Arba, Israel, Michael Alzer, Abraham Elias, David Keinan, Daniel Miller of Boca Raton, FL, Noam Rozenman of Jerusalem, Jenny (Yocheved) Rubin of Los Angeles, CA. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Yitzhak Weinstock, 19, whose family came from Los Angeles, CA, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Hamas took responsibility for the attack.

etc. etc. etc.

 

[aris2chat]

anti-semitism over the last five hundred years is a leading reason for the need of a jewish state that led to the creation of the modern Israel, and the continued need for it's security measures.
The greater the anti-semitism, the more hawkish Israel will be.

If arab forces had been successful in '48 or anytime after that, do you think anyone would be demanding the return of land to or the right of return for jews today? Does anyone had illusions of how little progress the palestinians might have made compared to the Israelis? Does anyone think the loss of life would have been less if the palestinians fell into a civil war than in their war against Israel? Israel is a scapegoat for the inherent internal problems in the middle east.

 

[Roudy]

anti-semitism over the last five hundred years is a leading reason for the need of a jewish state that led to the creation of the modern Israel, and the continued need for it's security measures.
The greater the anti-semitism, the more hawkish Israel will be.

If arab forces had been successful in '48 or anytime after that, do you think anyone would be demanding the return of land to or the right of return for jews today? Does anyone had illusions of how little progress the palestinians might have made compared to the Israelis? Does anyone think the loss of life would have been less if the palestinians fell into a civil war than in their war against Israel? Israel is a scapegoat for the inherent internal problems in the middle east.

Yeah, didn't you know that the Holocaust and all the genocides and pogroms on Jews over the last 2000 years that occurred prior to the existence of the modern state of Israel, was actually because of "Israel's actions"? Ha ha ha.

 

[Victory67]

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

None. Palestinians don't target the USA.

 

[Victory67]

Yeah, didn't you know that the Holocaust and all the genocides and pogroms on Jews over the last 2000 years that occurred prior to the existence of the modern state of Israel, was actually because of "Israel's actions"? Ha ha ha.

The world expressed a great deal of good will towards the Jews by allowing them to settle Palestine and then allowing them to create a Jewish state in Palestine.

Israel's constantly racist and Apartheid-like actions have worn thin that good will.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

Yes, very interesting. Suddenly Tinmore is incapable of using a search engine. Look for yourself, here are some samples of the animals in action:

American Victims

A bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny of New Haven, CT, and wounded more than 100. U.S. citizens injured: Chanoch Bleier, Judith Shulewitz, Bernard Batta.

A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device outside the Dizengoff Center, Tel Aviv's largest shopping mall, killing 20 persons and injuring 75 others, including two U.S. citizens. Both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the bombing. U.S. citizens injured included Julie K. Negrin of Seattle, WA.

A member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seized control of the steering wheel of a crowded bus enroute from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and drove the bus off a cliff in the area of Kiryat Ye'arim. 16 civilians were killed, including two Canadians and one American.

Two bombs detonated in Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, killing 15 persons, including a U.S. citizen and wounding 168 others, among them two U.S. citizens. The Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. citizens killed: Mrs. Leah Stern of Passaic, NJ. U.S. citizens injured: Dov Dalin.

Bombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens killed: Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles and Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Diana Campuzano of New York, Abraham Mendelson of Los Angeles, CA, Greg Salzman of New Jersey, Stuart E. Hersh of Kiryat Arba, Israel, Michael Alzer, Abraham Elias, David Keinan, Daniel Miller of Boca Raton, FL, Noam Rozenman of Jerusalem, Jenny (Yocheved) Rubin of Los Angeles, CA. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Yitzhak Weinstock, 19, whose family came from Los Angeles, CA, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Hamas took responsibility for the attack.

etc. etc. etc.

Just what I thought. No attacks on the US.

 

[Lipush]

The American people. We have no beef with Palestine.

Yet 6 out of the 30 official terror organization groups listed in the American government's files, are Palestinian....

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

By killing American civilians in Israel, they also attack the US.

And if they are listed in the American files as "terrorist groups", it is for a good reason.

 

[Lipush]

Interesting, how many of those attacked the US?

None. Palestinians don't target the USA.

Christine Logan's family will disagree with you.