Israeli Court Convicts Palestinian Child Who Was Nearly Beaten To Death By Mob

[Phoenall]

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Manasra was 13 at the time of his arrest, and the Israeli court decided to allow the prosecution’s request to delay his court hearing until January, when he turned 14 and was allowed, under Israeli law, to be tried as an adult. The Israeli Knesset used Manasra’s case as an example when they voted several months ago to change the age at which a Palestinian child can be tried as an adult from 14 to 12.

Israeli children, in contrast, are considered ‘minors’ until the age of 18.

If all this is true, it is way wrong.

WHY it is the law of that land. I think allowing child rapists to walk free on a plea bargain is wrong but you allow it in the US

So you think the "law of the land" is justifiable no matter what? I don't.

We can all guess what you think going on your posts, if it is a Palestinian let him go. If he is a Jew string him up and let him rot on the gibbet.
The law of the land says murder is wrong in all nations, it is the sentencing that differs. Even in the US one state can have death by hanging the next one death by gassing and the next one life in prison. You have no LAW OF THE LAND in effect, and still act like the wild west with lynching judges

 

[Phoenall]

It is wrong to stab kids too.

If he can be old enough to take a kitchen knife and tear out someone's guts, he's old enough to face the consequence.

All those sympathising with him instead of the child he stabbed can go to hell.

Saying there is something wrong with the justice system here is not saying it isn't wrong to stab kids.

Holding him without charge until he turns 14 sounds pretty wrong imo.
Trying a 12 year old as an adult is way wrong - they aren't adults, not in brain development, not in maturity- does that mean 12 year olds are then put in prisons with adults?
Applying it only to Palestinian kids but not Jewish kids? Nothing wrong with that? No wonder the Israeli justice system has had a lot criticism levied at it over it's treatment of Palestinian minors.

I agree that we should press charges against him now, then he'll be in lock up just the same, but without people protesting. Let it be regular prison, juveyhall, either way he's not going to just walk out, you do realize that, right?

And the Israeli justice system is rotten, I agree. But Ahmed Manasra is another terrorist like the rest, so, I don't really care about him. Better strees out about other people who suffer the wrath of our court for no apparant reason (AKA Roman Zadorov)

I care about children that can end up abused in the system - yes he should serve a sentance, but to wait to charge him so he can be charged as an adult seems wrong unless it's a particularly brutal and henious crime.

We had a recent scandal (Kalief Browder) a 16 yr old, who was incarcerated without trial for 3 years, two of which were in solitary confinement and committed suicide. The subsequent investigation revealed huge problems and injustices in the juvenile justice system in general and the use of solitary confinement in particular.

So what is that you suggest? us sending him off on his merry way?

I already stated that - try him, sentance him, and let him serve it.

Which is what they did , again outside the US the law is not corrupt and the defence is allowed ample time to produce a case. They don't get rushed into court before they have all the facts and are then not able to defend their client properly, they can hold up the trial, just as the prosecution can.

So if they sentence him to the maximum allowable under the applicable law you wont cry foul ( it is execution by the way ) or will you accept the Israeli version which is life in prison ( a maximum of 25 years so he will still be a young man if he serves the full time )

 

[Phoenall]

A Palestinian child, Ahmad Manasra, 14, was convicted Tuesday of two counts of attempted murder, despite a lack of evidence, a video showing him being severely beaten and insulted by a crowd shouting racial slurs, and video showing Israeli interrogators brutalizing and intimidating the crying child with no family member or lawyer present.

Manasra was 13 at the time of his arrest, and the Israeli court decided to allow the prosecution’s request to delay his court hearing until January, when he turned 14 and was allowed, under Israeli law, to be tried as an adult. The Israeli Knesset used Manasra’s case as an example when they voted several months ago to change the age at which a Palestinian child can be tried as an adult from 14 to 12.

Israeli children, in contrast, are considered ‘minors’ until the age of 18.
Israeli Court Convicts Palestinian Child Who Was Nearly Beaten To Death By Mob
Happy Birthday

Surprisingly, the linked al-Jazeera story (below) says absolutely nothing about Manasra being "Nearly Beaten to Death by Mob."

Could it be that Mintpress - a site whose contributors are not journalists but rather activists/bloggers - has, like you, an agenda that willfully - even eagerly - plays fast and loose with the facts?

Perhaps you believe al-Jazeera is a Zionist media outlet?

The kid was complicit in an unprovoked knife attack on others. Like the Israeli who was recently convicted and sentenced for his part in such an attack, Manasra should and will face Israeli court justice.

Get over it.

Palestinian teen could face 'maximum sentence'

The article also states:

According to Israeli law, children under 14 cannot be sentenced to jail. Last November, however, in a preliminary vote, the Israeli Knesset approved a bill that would allow Palestinian minors under 14 who are facing terrorism charges to receive prison sentences, which they would start serving upon turning 14.

If passed, the law would only affect children who are citizens of Israel, as Israeli military law already allows for children from the occupied West Bank and Gaza to be placed in security prisons from the age of 12.​

So they are reducing the age for ISREALI children and not for Palestinian's. do you think that is fair ?

 

[Phoenall]

Saying there is something wrong with the justice system here is not saying it isn't wrong to stab kids.

Holding him without charge until he turns 14 sounds pretty wrong imo.
Trying a 12 year old as an adult is way wrong - they aren't adults, not in brain development, not in maturity- does that mean 12 year olds are then put in prisons with adults?
Applying it only to Palestinian kids but not Jewish kids? Nothing wrong with that? No wonder the Israeli justice system has had a lot criticism levied at it over it's treatment of Palestinian minors.

First, as you've already pointed out the accuracy of the reporting of the OP and its link, is clearly lacking, so right away we know we should make investigation to discover what is fact.

Agree, and it is apparently partial fact/partial distortion. The law applies within Israel. Palestinians outside Israel fall under Military Law.

Knesset advances bill to imprison terrorist minors

The legislative initiative gained traction after multiple terror attacks in recent months in which Palestinian teenagers stabbed Israelis.

“Today children are being used [in terror], and we see children in the Islamic State group cutting off people’s heads, and Palestinian terrorists aged 11, children inducted at the entrances to schools,” Berko said. “This law offers deterrence and prevention. This law will give greater security to the citizens of Israel, Jews and Arabs alike.”​

This is deceptive - he's deliberately attempting to draw parallels between IS and Palestinian children in order to stir up greater fear and support.

MK Osama Sa’adi of the Joint List criticized Berko for putting so much focus on terror in a law that also covers a range of other youth-related crimes.

“Anat Berko wants to take one section of the Youth Law,” which deals with minors in the context of criminal law, “and attach it to acts of terror,” Sa’adi said. “I didn’t hear Anat Berko getting worked up against cases of pedophiles, drug dealing, murder, and offenses like that.

“You aren’t asking to put [other young offenders] in prison, but when a Palestinian youngster throws a stone you want to put him in prison,” he said. “This is part of the continued incitement against the Palestinian public.”

...Israel’s penal code defines minors as people under 18 years of age; for the purpose of prosecution for very serious crimes, the minimum age at which they can be tried as adults is 14.​

This is where the OP distorting it's claim - the law and it's changes applies to all Israeli's and legal residents, the others are under military law. So the implication that there are two standards in the law is false (ie 18 for Jews and 14 for Pali's is a lie).

What remains to be seen is whether it is applied equitably, which I have doubts.

Also, we can check with RoccoR , but if you are going to argue that Palestine is "occupied" then Israeli law CAN NOT be applied to Palestinian citizens -- Israel is compelled to follow the existing law which is Jordanian.

Actually, that is not entirely true...the laws that govern Palestine are very muddy and unclear - and think it only applies to death penalty cases.

At this point, it is still considered Occupied Territory - until that changes, and the territorial claims are resolved that is what I refer it to.

The parallels are already there if you bother to look.

 

[RoccoR]

Shusha, et al,

Yes, this gets confusing and it is still very controversial.

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
PENAL LEGISLATION. I. GENERAL OBSERVATIONS

Article 64:
The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention.

Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.

The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them.
​

Saying there is something wrong with the justice system here is not saying it isn't wrong to stab kids.

Holding him without charge until he turns 14 sounds pretty wrong imo.
Trying a 12 year old as an adult is way wrong - they aren't adults, not in brain development, not in maturity- does that mean 12 year olds are then put in prisons with adults?
Applying it only to Palestinian kids but not Jewish kids? Nothing wrong with that? No wonder the Israeli justice system has had a lot criticism levied at it over it's treatment of Palestinian minors.

First, as you've already pointed out the accuracy of the reporting of the OP and its link, is clearly lacking, so right away we know we should make investigation to discover what is fact.

Also, we can check with RoccoR , but if you are going to argue that Palestine is "occupied" then Israeli law CAN NOT be applied to Palestinian citizens -- Israel is compelled to follow the existing law which is Jordanian.

(COMMENT)

This is going to get very messy if it ever is litigated. In most cases, the

West Bank:

Between May 1948 and April 1950, everything outside of Israeli Control, but inside the former territory under Mandate, would have followed the law under which the Mandatory considered reasonable.
Between 1967 and August 1988, the law would have generally been Jordanian Law.
From November 1988, until the Oslo Accords, Israeli Law would have govern.
After 1988, it appears the general consensus is that International occupation Law provided the greatest protection to the, until the Oslo Accords kick-in.
​

GAZA Strip

During the period 1949 and Oslo Accords, the Egyptian Military Governorship would have followed the law previously followed by the Mandatory.
Between the Oslo Accords and 2005, would have followed the law previously followed by the Mandatory.
Between the Oslo Accords and the Israeli withdrawal, Palestinians Law.
​

The controversy comes when the International Community needs to determine if the conflict is Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC) versus an International Armed Conflicts. It will get even more interesting if the court has to decide whither or not there were periods of foreign sovereignty. And even more interesting if it is ever determined if the denial/rejection of tutelage has a being.

Specific to the stabbings attacks, a couple of questions have to be researched.

* Was the minor incited by nefarious Arab Palestinians to act?
• Are the Arab Palestinian demonstrating a conduct 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime.
• A society can be found liable if the act of incitement to commit an offence:

• If the Palestinian incites minor adults to commit an offence or offences; (Article 68, Geneva Convention)
• he or she believes that the other person, if he acts as incited, shall do so with the fault required for the conviction of that offence or offences

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Weatherman2020]

Those poor Palestinian kids.

 

[Coyote]

Saying there is something wrong with the justice system here is not saying it isn't wrong to stab kids.

Holding him without charge until he turns 14 sounds pretty wrong imo.
Trying a 12 year old as an adult is way wrong - they aren't adults, not in brain development, not in maturity- does that mean 12 year olds are then put in prisons with adults?
Applying it only to Palestinian kids but not Jewish kids? Nothing wrong with that? No wonder the Israeli justice system has had a lot criticism levied at it over it's treatment of Palestinian minors.

First, as you've already pointed out the accuracy of the reporting of the OP and its link, is clearly lacking, so right away we know we should make investigation to discover what is fact.

Agree, and it is apparently partial fact/partial distortion. The law applies within Israel. Palestinians outside Israel fall under Military Law.

Knesset advances bill to imprison terrorist minors

The legislative initiative gained traction after multiple terror attacks in recent months in which Palestinian teenagers stabbed Israelis.

“Today children are being used [in terror], and we see children in the Islamic State group cutting off people’s heads, and Palestinian terrorists aged 11, children inducted at the entrances to schools,” Berko said. “This law offers deterrence and prevention. This law will give greater security to the citizens of Israel, Jews and Arabs alike.”​

This is deceptive - he's deliberately attempting to draw parallels between IS and Palestinian children in order to stir up greater fear and support.

MK Osama Sa’adi of the Joint List criticized Berko for putting so much focus on terror in a law that also covers a range of other youth-related crimes.

“Anat Berko wants to take one section of the Youth Law,” which deals with minors in the context of criminal law, “and attach it to acts of terror,” Sa’adi said. “I didn’t hear Anat Berko getting worked up against cases of pedophiles, drug dealing, murder, and offenses like that.

“You aren’t asking to put [other young offenders] in prison, but when a Palestinian youngster throws a stone you want to put him in prison,” he said. “This is part of the continued incitement against the Palestinian public.”

...Israel’s penal code defines minors as people under 18 years of age; for the purpose of prosecution for very serious crimes, the minimum age at which they can be tried as adults is 14.​

This is where the OP distorting it's claim - the law and it's changes applies to all Israeli's and legal residents, the others are under military law. So the implication that there are two standards in the law is false (ie 18 for Jews and 14 for Pali's is a lie).

What remains to be seen is whether it is applied equitably, which I have doubts.

Also, we can check with RoccoR , but if you are going to argue that Palestine is "occupied" then Israeli law CAN NOT be applied to Palestinian citizens -- Israel is compelled to follow the existing law which is Jordanian.

Actually, that is not entirely true...the laws that govern Palestine are very muddy and unclear - and think it only applies to death penalty cases.

At this point, it is still considered Occupied Territory - until that changes, and the territorial claims are resolved that is what I refer it to.

The parallels are already there if you bother to look.

I do, and no - anyone with a grain of honesty would realize it is a false equivalency.

 

[Coyote]

,,

Manasra was 13 at the time of his arrest, and the Israeli court decided to allow the prosecution’s request to delay his court hearing until January, when he turned 14 and was allowed, under Israeli law, to be tried as an adult. The Israeli Knesset used Manasra’s case as an example when they voted several months ago to change the age at which a Palestinian child can be tried as an adult from 14 to 12.

Israeli children, in contrast, are considered ‘minors’ until the age of 18.

If all this is true, it is way wrong.

WHY it is the law of that land. I think allowing child rapists to walk free on a plea bargain is wrong but you allow it in the US

So you think the "law of the land" is justifiable no matter what? I don't.

We can all guess what you think going on your posts, if it is a Palestinian let him go. If he is a Jew string him up and let him rot on the gibbet.
The law of the land says murder is wrong in all nations, it is the sentencing that differs. Even in the US one state can have death by hanging the next one death by gassing and the next one life in prison. You have no LAW OF THE LAND in effect, and still act like the wild west with lynching judges

Who's "we"?

Clearly you did not read my posts. I said he should be tried, and if convicted - sentenced according to the law.

What's your problem?

 

[Coyote]

A Palestinian child, Ahmad Manasra, 14, was convicted Tuesday of two counts of attempted murder, despite a lack of evidence, a video showing him being severely beaten and insulted by a crowd shouting racial slurs, and video showing Israeli interrogators brutalizing and intimidating the crying child with no family member or lawyer present.

Manasra was 13 at the time of his arrest, and the Israeli court decided to allow the prosecution’s request to delay his court hearing until January, when he turned 14 and was allowed, under Israeli law, to be tried as an adult. The Israeli Knesset used Manasra’s case as an example when they voted several months ago to change the age at which a Palestinian child can be tried as an adult from 14 to 12.

Israeli children, in contrast, are considered ‘minors’ until the age of 18.
Israeli Court Convicts Palestinian Child Who Was Nearly Beaten To Death By Mob
Happy Birthday

Surprisingly, the linked al-Jazeera story (below) says absolutely nothing about Manasra being "Nearly Beaten to Death by Mob."

Could it be that Mintpress - a site whose contributors are not journalists but rather activists/bloggers - has, like you, an agenda that willfully - even eagerly - plays fast and loose with the facts?

Perhaps you believe al-Jazeera is a Zionist media outlet?

The kid was complicit in an unprovoked knife attack on others. Like the Israeli who was recently convicted and sentenced for his part in such an attack, Manasra should and will face Israeli court justice.

Get over it.

Palestinian teen could face 'maximum sentence'

The article also states:

According to Israeli law, children under 14 cannot be sentenced to jail. Last November, however, in a preliminary vote, the Israeli Knesset approved a bill that would allow Palestinian minors under 14 who are facing terrorism charges to receive prison sentences, which they would start serving upon turning 14.

If passed, the law would only affect children who are citizens of Israel, as Israeli military law already allows for children from the occupied West Bank and Gaza to be placed in security prisons from the age of 12.​

So they are reducing the age for ISREALI children and not for Palestinian's. do you think that is fair ?

Have you not read anything? The age is already reduced for Palestinian kids in WB, who are under military law. This new law now applies to Israeli citizens and non-citizen residents.

 

[Kondor3]

Another victim of The Warrior Religion, which puts it into childrens' heads to commit violence against their fellow man in the name of Allah.

Any GOOD parent would have packed-up and moved their children away from such possibilities, ages ago.

Tragically, we now have another case of a wee little Neanderthal, led astray, busted for trying to hurt others, and now paying a grown-up price for his stupidity.

Oh, well... another gullible Allah-blinded statistic... life goes on...

And yet Jews think Yahweh gave them the land. What right do secular jews think they have to Palestine?

Your right a good parent would not live there with kids. Zionist only reap what they sow.

The Jews of Israel are, indeed, a mix of Believers and Nonbelivers, and within the domain of Belief, that, too, is varied and difficult to pin down.

Reduced to secular arguments... the Jews now own the land, lock, stock and barrel, while the Arabs are squatters on a continuously shrinking collection of postage stamps.

Any Muslim parent with an ounce of brains in either the West Bank or Gaza - and admittedly, they are few and far between, given their history - will pack up and leave.

 

[montelatici]

Those poor Palestinian kids.
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Those wonderful Israeli Jew kids.

 

[Coyote]

Another victim of The Warrior Religion, which puts it into childrens' heads to commit violence against their fellow man in the name of Allah.

Any GOOD parent would have packed-up and moved their children away from such possibilities, ages ago.

Tragically, we now have another case of a wee little Neanderthal, led astray, busted for trying to hurt others, and now paying a grown-up price for his stupidity.

Oh, well... another gullible Allah-blinded statistic... life goes on...

And yet Jews think Yahweh gave them the land. What right do secular jews think they have to Palestine?

Your right a good parent would not live there with kids. Zionist only reap what they sow.

The Jews of Israel are, indeed, a mix of Believers and Nonbelivers, and within the domain of Belief, that, too, is varied and difficult to pin down.

Reduced to secular arguments... the Jews now own the land, lock, stock and barrel, while the Arabs are squatters on a continuously shrinking collection of postage stamps.

Any Muslim parent with an ounce of brains in either the West Bank or Gaza - and admittedly, they are few and far between, given their history - will pack up and leave.

It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

 

[Kondor3]

...It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

Nature has DE-selected the Palestinians...

 

[Coyote]

...It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

Nature has DE-selected the Palestinians...

Pipe down or I'm going to de-select you with a can of Raid.

Damn mosquitos...


The kid will get the sentencing he deserves I'm sure.

 

[Kondor3]

...It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

Nature has DE-selected the Palestinians...

Pipe down or I'm going to de-select you with a can of Raid.

Damn mosquitos...

The kid will get the sentencing he deserves I'm sure.

Pipe down? Not a chance, my little Muzzie-lover...

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

First, let me say, that I agree; but, with the reservation.

It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

(RESERVATION)

Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court
PART 2. JURISDICTION, ADMISSIBILITY AND APPLICABLE LAW

Article 6
Genocide

For the purpose of this Statute, "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
​

Article 6 (a) Genocide by killing
Elements of the Offense

1. The perpetrator killed one or more persons.
2. Such person or persons belonged to a particular national, ethnical, racial or religious group.
3. The perpetrator intended to destroy, in whole or in part, that national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.
4. The conduct took place in the context of a manifest pattern of similar conduct directed against that group or was conduct that could itself effect such destruction.
​

Article 7
Crimes against humanity

1. For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

(d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
​

Article 7 (1) (d) Crime against humanity of deportation or forcible transfer of population
Elements of the Offense

1. The perpetrator deported or forcibly transferred, without grounds permitted under international law, one or more persons to another State or location, by expulsion or other coercive acts.
2. Such person or persons were lawfully present in the area from which they were so deported or transferred.
​

(COMMENT)

The phrase "ethnic cleansing" (as in Judenrein or etnicko ciscenje) is not "international Legal Terminology;" but rather political terminology used to imply the intent of creating a more ethnically homogeneous population.

In this case, I take it to understand that you are talking about "expulsion, deportation or forcible transfers" and not with the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, that national, ethnical, racial or religious group (since there is no national, ethnic, racial or religious group that was deported that was not also represented in Israel as an element of the population).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Coyote]

...It usually takes ethnic cleansing to force people to leave homes their families have occupied for centuries.

Nature has DE-selected the Palestinians...

Pipe down or I'm going to de-select you with a can of Raid.

Damn mosquitos...

The kid will get the sentencing he deserves I'm sure.

Pipe down? Not a chance, my little Muzzie-lover...

Pfffft

 

[Lipush]

The thread and article were clearly trying to make the terrorist look like the victim of the story.

In other words- lying.

Our enemies lying. There's something new right there

 

[Phoenall]

Saying there is something wrong with the justice system here is not saying it isn't wrong to stab kids.

Holding him without charge until he turns 14 sounds pretty wrong imo.
Trying a 12 year old as an adult is way wrong - they aren't adults, not in brain development, not in maturity- does that mean 12 year olds are then put in prisons with adults?
Applying it only to Palestinian kids but not Jewish kids? Nothing wrong with that? No wonder the Israeli justice system has had a lot criticism levied at it over it's treatment of Palestinian minors.

First, as you've already pointed out the accuracy of the reporting of the OP and its link, is clearly lacking, so right away we know we should make investigation to discover what is fact.

Agree, and it is apparently partial fact/partial distortion. The law applies within Israel. Palestinians outside Israel fall under Military Law.

Knesset advances bill to imprison terrorist minors

The legislative initiative gained traction after multiple terror attacks in recent months in which Palestinian teenagers stabbed Israelis.

“Today children are being used [in terror], and we see children in the Islamic State group cutting off people’s heads, and Palestinian terrorists aged 11, children inducted at the entrances to schools,” Berko said. “This law offers deterrence and prevention. This law will give greater security to the citizens of Israel, Jews and Arabs alike.”​

This is deceptive - he's deliberately attempting to draw parallels between IS and Palestinian children in order to stir up greater fear and support.

MK Osama Sa’adi of the Joint List criticized Berko for putting so much focus on terror in a law that also covers a range of other youth-related crimes.

“Anat Berko wants to take one section of the Youth Law,” which deals with minors in the context of criminal law, “and attach it to acts of terror,” Sa’adi said. “I didn’t hear Anat Berko getting worked up against cases of pedophiles, drug dealing, murder, and offenses like that.

“You aren’t asking to put [other young offenders] in prison, but when a Palestinian youngster throws a stone you want to put him in prison,” he said. “This is part of the continued incitement against the Palestinian public.”

...Israel’s penal code defines minors as people under 18 years of age; for the purpose of prosecution for very serious crimes, the minimum age at which they can be tried as adults is 14.​

This is where the OP distorting it's claim - the law and it's changes applies to all Israeli's and legal residents, the others are under military law. So the implication that there are two standards in the law is false (ie 18 for Jews and 14 for Pali's is a lie).

What remains to be seen is whether it is applied equitably, which I have doubts.

Also, we can check with RoccoR , but if you are going to argue that Palestine is "occupied" then Israeli law CAN NOT be applied to Palestinian citizens -- Israel is compelled to follow the existing law which is Jordanian.

Actually, that is not entirely true...the laws that govern Palestine are very muddy and unclear - and think it only applies to death penalty cases.

At this point, it is still considered Occupied Territory - until that changes, and the territorial claims are resolved that is what I refer it to.

The parallels are already there if you bother to look.

I do, and no - anyone with a grain of honesty would realize it is a false equivalency.

Their beliefs are the same, and come from the same source. Their method of enforcing their beliefs is the same and they have the same aims. So why aren't they the same thing ?

 

[Phoenall]

,,

Manasra was 13 at the time of his arrest, and the Israeli court decided to allow the prosecution’s request to delay his court hearing until January, when he turned 14 and was allowed, under Israeli law, to be tried as an adult. The Israeli Knesset used Manasra’s case as an example when they voted several months ago to change the age at which a Palestinian child can be tried as an adult from 14 to 12.

Israeli children, in contrast, are considered ‘minors’ until the age of 18.

If all this is true, it is way wrong.

WHY it is the law of that land. I think allowing child rapists to walk free on a plea bargain is wrong but you allow it in the US

So you think the "law of the land" is justifiable no matter what? I don't.

We can all guess what you think going on your posts, if it is a Palestinian let him go. If he is a Jew string him up and let him rot on the gibbet.
The law of the land says murder is wrong in all nations, it is the sentencing that differs. Even in the US one state can have death by hanging the next one death by gassing and the next one life in prison. You have no LAW OF THE LAND in effect, and still act like the wild west with lynching judges

Who's "we"?

Clearly you did not read my posts. I said he should be tried, and if convicted - sentenced according to the law.

What's your problem?

The people who read this board of course

He was and you found reason to complain because he was found guilty

Your attitude towards the Jews being supported by international laws, you don't think they should be allowed to use international laws.



Have you seen Roccors post regarding the laws applicable in Palestine yet ?