Israeli Apartheid

[P F Tinmore]

" To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"

Palestine entered the Arab League as a member state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Agreement
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(COMMENT)

Seventh Arab League Summit Conference
Rabat, Morocco 28 October 1974

" To affirm the right of the Palestinian people to establish an independent national authority under the command of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. This authority, once it is established, shall enjoy the support of the Arab states in all fields and at all levels;"​

(COMMENT)

This is a chant of "wishful Thinking" on the part of the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian associates. At every opportunity given to the Arab Palestinians, from (basically) 1920 to the present, rejected to participate in any move to attain self-determination. Now they have an internal squabble between the two principles (Gaza 'vs' Rahmalla Governments) and are caught in a dictatorship in both portions of the territory Gaza Strip (HAMAS) 'vs' West Bank (PA). Just about the only sovereignty the Arab Palestinians can claim is the Gaza Strip that the Israelis threw away, and Area "A" (and even that is questionable). The "river to the sea" mantra refers to a territory that is, for all practical purposes, not under Arab Palestinian control and/or sovereignty - or Palestinian Government that can stand alone.

In the seven-decade of donor contributions, any progress the Arab Palestinians have made was either accidental, dumb luck, or made possible by some outside influence. The stock answer to this is: that they were kept down by the Israelis.

It is not reasonable to assume that the Arab Palestinians can assemble a viable government in the next decade that is even partially self-sufficient (no matter how much money the donors throw at them). It would take a supernatural happening to achieve that degree of success.

(Figure the odds!)

Most Respectfully,
R

Denigrating the natives is a standard colonial practice.

 

[Roudy]

Denigrating the natives is a standard colonial practice.

Natives? Ha ha ha ha. Since when did Arab invaders become the natives of ancient Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Natives? Ha ha ha ha. Since when did Arab invaders become the natives of ancient Israel.

Early Zionists called Palestinians the natives.

 

[RoccoR]

Posting #1170

None of those are border treaties with Palestine.

v/r
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why is Israel called an ‘apartheid’ state?​

 

[P F Tinmore]

The International Human Rights Community and Israeli Crimes of Apartheid​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza, Apartheid, and Challenging Israeli Impunity​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tlaib SHREDS Bipartisan Defense Of Israel’s Right-Wing Genocidal Apartheid Of Palestinians​

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Opinion
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MEDIA=twitter

(COMMENT)

Is this the best that you can do? (Copy and paste the opinion of others...) We can train a monkey to do that. We could even write a program to do that.

If you have no contribution, just copy the URL to the Twitter post and leave it at that. Save the bandwidth.

On just this one page, you have posted 6 times with no contribution, just the page from Twitter. Give us a break... If we wanted to read Twitter, we would go there.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Opinion
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,


(COMMENT)

Is this the best that you can do? (Copy and paste the opinion of others...) We can train a monkey to do that. We could even write a program to do that.

If you have no contribution, just copy the URL to the Twitter post and leave it at that. Save the bandwidth.

On just this one page, you have posted 6 times with no contribution, just the page from Twitter. Give us a break... If we wanted to read Twitter, we would go there.

Most Respectfully,
R

From the one who posts pages of external interference.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Embellishment
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Palestine entered the Arab League as a member state.

(COMMENT)

And!

I suggest you do your fact-checking on the information you post.

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) joined the Arab League (1976), not as the State of Palestine. A decade later (1988) the PLO declared Independence.

However, about two decades (+) Mahmoud Abbas attempted to legitimize Palestinian independence and sovereignty over the 1967 territories; formerly the territory for which Jordan had annexed. While the Palestinian independence and sovereignty over the territories was a serious political move, it has yet to be achieved. And in the chaos of Palestinian politics, the demands made by the (always shifting) leadership are an impediment to peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Attributions
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I post references and sources to give credit where credit is due. I copy and paste when it is a matter of evidentiary value or when paraphrasing would alter the meaning. I try hard not to butcher the original thought.

From the one who posts pages of external interference.

(COMMENT)

I have actually read the USMB Guidelines. And among those guidelines, I try to follow them the best that I can.

• Copyright: Link each "Copy & Paste" to its source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material.

External post-grad growth is often outside the reach of the internet. In that regard, I follow the spirit and intent of the Guidelines as best that I can.

• Editing quotes. You may selectively quote, provided that it does not change the context or meaning of the quote. When you comment on the quote, do it outside of the quote box. Do not post inside of the quote box or alter the member names in "link-back" text.
• No linking to, discussing, or promoting other message boards anywhere on the site.

To the extent possible try to follow this rule closely. Additionally, I provide such information as to avoid any conflict with the rules against Plagiarism.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) joined the Arab League (1976), not as the State of Palestine. A decade later (1988) the PLO declared Independence.

All of the Arab League states, except Jordan, recognized Palestinian's 1948 declaration of independence.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Recognition
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You cannot claim to be sovereign over a territory that is already under the control of a State.

All of the Arab League states, except Jordan, recognized Palestinian's 1948 declaration of independence.

(COMMENT)

The All Palestine Government was resolved in 1959. The Gaza Strip was officially under the Administration of the Egyptian Military Governorship.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

You cannot claim to be sovereign over a territory that is already under the control of a State.

Well yes and no. Occupation is control without sovereignty.

Why don't you post a 1948 map of Israel and we can see where Palestine encroaches on Israel's defined territory.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli Apartheid
SUBTOPIC: Recognition
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Ah yes, one of your "Intentionality fallacious" Fallacies. This is a variation of the theme that because there is no map of Israel from 1948, 1948, or 1949, the territory must belong to Palestinians. Just because there is NOT "A" - does not mean - ∴ "B".

After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.
SOURCE: Memorandum "A" to the UK Letter No. 52/195/48, SUBJECT: LEGAL MEANING OF THE “TERMINATION OF THE MANDATE,” dtd 25 Feb 1948

This memorandum was an estoppel in front of the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP), preventing them from justifying future Jihadism, Fedayeen Activism, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence under the guise of defending their state.

Well yes and no. Occupation is control without sovereignty.

Why don't you post a 1948 map of Israel and we can see where Palestine encroaches on Israel's defined territory.

(COMMENT)

This is a propaganda effort that intentionally intended to "deliberately" disseminate deceptive information and/or propagate the false conclusion that the Arab Palestinians have some legitimate claim to sovereignty over the territory formerly under the administration initiated by the Mandate for Palestine by the Palestine Order in Council.

The British included the key for the HoAP to nullify the intent of the 25 February 48 memo. It said: "Immediately self-governing." As we have discussed many times before, the Arab Palestinians rejected more than a few times the various overtures by the British Commission for Palestine to participate in self-governing activities. However, the Jewish Agency took every advantage they were offered in this regard.

No Pro-Palestinian or Anti-Israeli argument can use the events of 1948 to justify violence based on this argument or by extension any defense for violence derived from this argument. This includes, but is not limited to the validity of the failed "All Palestine Government."

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I apologize in advance for publishing the source.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ah yes, one of your "Intentionality fallacious" Fallacies. This is a variation of the theme that because there is no map of Israel from 1948, 1948, or 1949, the territory must belong to Palestinians. Just because there is NOT "A" - does not mean - ∴ "B".

1948, the most important year in Israel's history, and nobody made a map.

Could it be that Israel had no territory to define?