Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, Sixties Fanet al,

Yes! Agreed -- there is a difference.

O 60's as much as I like you,what I actually SAID WAS ZIONIST DOGS/FILTH ETC., NOT JEWISH.

I purposely made the difference between Zionists and other Jewish folk...because like me,they detest Zionists.......So 60,stop your trouble making,most prominent Jews past and present find Zionists as Rubbish.

(COMMENT)

All that is necessary to be a "Zionist," is to believe in the Establishments of the Jewish National Home, and that Jerusalem should be the Capitol; the center of the Jewish world.

Not all Zionist are Jewish. Being Jewish is not a requirement.

The "Sixties Fan" has a great little explanation at the bottom of his messages.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, but he neglected to mention that they had to give the natives the boot to do that.

 

[rylah]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, et al,

Ridiculous.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rather unusual, don't you think?
(COMMENT)

No one has said what the purpose of the mortar attack might be! After the counterattack, all that changed was the destruction of two Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) locations. What the intent or expectation the HAMAS and Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) remains baffling.

Most Respectfully,
R

What is baffling? Israel was continuing its daily act of war against Gaza. Was Israel not expecting a response to that?

It seems you somehow missed the part about Israel being attacked by Islamic terrorists. Israel is not going to allow Islamic terrorists an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism.

Hollie with Respect,you use to refer to HAMAS,now you use the term ISLAMIC TERRORISTS,to try to attempt to confuse the viewer into thinking that The Palestinians are part of ISIS,this is so wrong of you,despite our differences I do expect the truth from you...NOT THIS ANAL TYPE OF COMMENTARY.

steve

(COMMENT)

Both DAESH and HAMAS are Radical Islamic terrorists. In fact, in 1968, when the Covenant was written for the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), they openly call themselves Islamic Jihadist.

Most Respectfully,
R

Stupid post. What country is DAESH defending?

If You have to ask You didn't read what the group titles mean.
In the case of Hamas, it doesn't specify a location, simply says "Islamic Resistence".
The similarity between these two Sunni groups is that they both envision an Arab Muslim domination over whole of Levant and Iraq and its' different indigenous people, over their lands and unique cultures.
Pan Arabism that is.

 

[rylah]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, Sixties Fanet al,

Yes! Agreed -- there is a difference.

O 60's as much as I like you,what I actually SAID WAS ZIONIST DOGS/FILTH ETC., NOT JEWISH.

I purposely made the difference between Zionists and other Jewish folk...because like me,they detest Zionists.......So 60,stop your trouble making,most prominent Jews past and present find Zionists as Rubbish.

(COMMENT)

All that is necessary to be a "Zionist," is to believe in the Establishments of the Jewish National Home, and that Jerusalem should be the Capitol; the center of the Jewish world.

Not all Zionist are Jewish. Being Jewish is not a requirement.

The "Sixties Fan" has a great little explanation at the bottom of his messages.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, but he neglected to mention that they had to give the natives the boot to do that.

And You forgot to mention that Your "natives" were Arabian tribes that officially ceded the land to a king from Mecca.

 

[abi]

Which is exactly what the Israelis did, thank you.

How did they know? And how do you know it was fired by who they claim?

Moreover, you skipped my questions and said you would answer if I answer first. I noticed your use of this tactic prior.

Care to answer now or just move on?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oh, theliq, Zionists make up about 95% of all Jews.

Not even close.

I am waiting for your verified source where, according to you (?) or others where you got the information from, most Jews are not Zionists.

What is the percentage, Abi? Source?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, Sixties Fanet al,

Yes! Agreed -- there is a difference.

O 60's as much as I like you,what I actually SAID WAS ZIONIST DOGS/FILTH ETC., NOT JEWISH.

I purposely made the difference between Zionists and other Jewish folk...because like me,they detest Zionists.......So 60,stop your trouble making,most prominent Jews past and present find Zionists as Rubbish.

(COMMENT)

All that is necessary to be a "Zionist," is to believe in the Establishments of the Jewish National Home, and that Jerusalem should be the Capitol; the center of the Jewish world.

Not all Zionist are Jewish. Being Jewish is not a requirement.

The "Sixties Fan" has a great little explanation at the bottom of his messages.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, but he neglected to mention that they had to give the natives the boot to do that.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, Sixties Fanet al,

Yes! Agreed -- there is a difference.

O 60's as much as I like you,what I actually SAID WAS ZIONIST DOGS/FILTH ETC., NOT JEWISH.

I purposely made the difference between Zionists and other Jewish folk...because like me,they detest Zionists.......So 60,stop your trouble making,most prominent Jews past and present find Zionists as Rubbish.

(COMMENT)

All that is necessary to be a "Zionist," is to believe in the Establishments of the Jewish National Home, and that Jerusalem should be the Capitol; the center of the Jewish world.

Not all Zionist are Jewish. Being Jewish is not a requirement.

The "Sixties Fan" has a great little explanation at the bottom of his messages.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, but he neglected to mention that they had to give the natives the boot to do that.

Indeed, it is a stretch to suggest that Arab squatters from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc. were "natives".

Indeed, the would-be Emir of Pal'istan; Yassir "It's not AIDS" Arafat was Egyptian. An Egyptian who, in 1967, invented a national identity for Arab-Moslem land grabbers.

 

[abi]

Which is exactly what the Israelis did, thank you.

Evidence? Link? How did they know who fired? This is very important. Run from the other questions, but respond to this if possible.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, et al,

Ridiculous.

What is baffling? Israel was continuing its daily act of war against Gaza. Was Israel not expecting a response to that?

It seems you somehow missed the part about Israel being attacked by Islamic terrorists. Israel is not going to allow Islamic terrorists an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism.

Hollie with Respect,you use to refer to HAMAS,now you use the term ISLAMIC TERRORISTS,to try to attempt to confuse the viewer into thinking that The Palestinians are part of ISIS,this is so wrong of you,despite our differences I do expect the truth from you...NOT THIS ANAL TYPE OF COMMENTARY.

steve

(COMMENT)

Both DAESH and HAMAS are Radical Islamic terrorists. In fact, in 1968, when the Covenant was written for the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), they openly call themselves Islamic Jihadist.

Most Respectfully,
R

Stupid post. What country is DAESH defending?

If You have to ask You didn't read what the group titles mean.
In the case of Hamas, it doesn't specify a location, simply says "Islamic Resistence".
The similarity between these two Sunni groups is that they both envision an Arab Muslim domination over whole of Levant and Iraq and its' different indigenous people, over their lands and unique cultures.
Pan Arabism that is.

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders. Not so for DAESH and others.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Disir, et al,

There are several issues here that are converging.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rather unusual, don't you think?

Well, at least it was not a terrorist attack.

(COMMENT)

No one has said what the purpose of the mortar attack might be! After the counterattack, all that changed was the destruction of two Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) locations. What the intent or expectation the HAMAS and Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) remains baffling.

Most Respectfully,
R

Hamas sends threatening message to Trump

Hamas Leader Affirms Military Ties With Hezbollah

What better way to prove they are necessary.

(COMMENT)

IF HAMAS is sending threat messages to the US, THEN HAMAS is in violation of Article 2(4) UN Charter.
HAMAS and the Palestinian Authority (PA) have formed a Unity government. IF the PA supports HAMAS THEN the Unity Government for the State of Palestine is:

• Supporting, actively or passively, entities involved in terrorist acts. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 2a)
• Allowing nationals within their territories from making any funds, financial assets or economic resources or other related services available, directly or indirectly, for the benefit of persons who commit or attempt to commit or facilitate or participate in the commission of terrorist acts, of entities owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by such persons and of persons and entities acting on behalf of or at the direction of such persons;
(S/RES/1373 Paragraph 1d)
• Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 2d)
• Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 5)
• A/RES/2/110 - against propaganda and the inciters of a new war -
• A/RES/65/34 – Measures to eliminate international terrorism
• A/RES/64/297 – The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy
• etc, etc, etc
​

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist organization --- while --- Hezbollah is a Shi'a Islamist political party and militant group; with a paramilitary wing called Jihad Council. While there is some tenuous connection there, it has yet to be fully explored. That is like trying to oil -- and -- water.

The Iranian connection is what it is..

Most Respectfully,
R

According to all that, Israel should be in trouble.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Steve, et al,

Ridiculous.

It seems you somehow missed the part about Israel being attacked by Islamic terrorists. Israel is not going to allow Islamic terrorists an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism.

Hollie with Respect,you use to refer to HAMAS,now you use the term ISLAMIC TERRORISTS,to try to attempt to confuse the viewer into thinking that The Palestinians are part of ISIS,this is so wrong of you,despite our differences I do expect the truth from you...NOT THIS ANAL TYPE OF COMMENTARY.

steve

(COMMENT)

Both DAESH and HAMAS are Radical Islamic terrorists. In fact, in 1968, when the Covenant was written for the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), they openly call themselves Islamic Jihadist.

Most Respectfully,
R

Stupid post. What country is DAESH defending?

If You have to ask You didn't read what the group titles mean.
In the case of Hamas, it doesn't specify a location, simply says "Islamic Resistence".
The similarity between these two Sunni groups is that they both envision an Arab Muslim domination over whole of Levant and Iraq and its' different indigenous people, over their lands and unique cultures.
Pan Arabism that is.

Hamas does not operate outside its own borders. Not so for DAESH and others.

Hamas is just not as ambitious as ISIS. They're just comparatively fat and lazy what with their UN sponsored welfare fraud program.

The ideologies are identical, however.

 

[teddyearp]

Which is exactly what the Israelis did, thank you.

How did they know? And how do you know it was fired by who they claim?

Moreover, you skipped my questions and said you would answer if I answer first. I noticed your use of this tactic prior.

Care to answer now or just move on?

Well, you sidestepped my question regarding what the mortar fire was trying to rebuild by your previous statement and furthered by your first sentence above. I've also noticed this to be a tactic of yours (and many others here). But I'll go ahead and be a good sport.

I believe the questions you asked of me were in post #40, right? The first one:

You try to stay away from most of the labeling, but they're Israelis to you?

I try to stay away from the terrorist, Zionist, Islamo-nazi, anti-semite, etc. labels. For me to say Israelis, I mean the Jews, the Druze, the Arabs, the Ethiopians, and all others who are citizens of the legal State of Israel. Why do I need to think about that?

Second:

Why have you not simply come on this thread and denounce this senseless brutality from the Israelis with the same venom you denounce the children throwing stones at Israeli soldiers?

If I were to launch a mortar at your house, would it be senseless brutality for your government to retaliate against me? No. I think you would welcome your government to protect you. Further I do not recall how much venom I have used to denounce people throwing stones, maybe you have me confused with another. But since you mention it, have you ever been hit by a stone? Even one thrown by a child? Getting hit with a rock hurts and can kill no matter if an eight year old throws it, or an eighty year old.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ Disir, et al,

There are several issues here that are converging.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rather unusual, don't you think?

Well, at least it was not a terrorist attack.

(COMMENT)

No one has said what the purpose of the mortar attack might be! After the counterattack, all that changed was the destruction of two Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) locations. What the intent or expectation the HAMAS and Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) remains baffling.

Most Respectfully,
R

Hamas sends threatening message to Trump

Hamas Leader Affirms Military Ties With Hezbollah

What better way to prove they are necessary.

(COMMENT)

IF HAMAS is sending threat messages to the US, THEN HAMAS is in violation of Article 2(4) UN Charter.
HAMAS and the Palestinian Authority (PA) have formed a Unity government. IF the PA supports HAMAS THEN the Unity Government for the State of Palestine is:

• Supporting, actively or passively, entities involved in terrorist acts. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 2a)
• Allowing nationals within their territories from making any funds, financial assets or economic resources or other related services available, directly or indirectly, for the benefit of persons who commit or attempt to commit or facilitate or participate in the commission of terrorist acts, of entities owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by such persons and of persons and entities acting on behalf of or at the direction of such persons;
(S/RES/1373 Paragraph 1d)
• Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 2d)
• Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. (S/RES/1373 Paragraph 5)
• A/RES/2/110 - against propaganda and the inciters of a new war -
• A/RES/65/34 – Measures to eliminate international terrorism
• A/RES/64/297 – The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy
• etc, etc, etc
​

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist organization --- while --- Hezbollah is a Shi'a Islamist political party and militant group; with a paramilitary wing called Jihad Council. While there is some tenuous connection there, it has yet to be fully explored. That is like trying to oil -- and -- water.

The Iranian connection is what it is..

Most Respectfully,
R

According to all that, Israel should be in trouble.

Indeed, Israel is not in trouble but chooses to selectively deliver punishing beat-downs to the various Islamic terrorist franchises on an as-needed basis. Islamic terrorists behaving badly are tolerated for a time. But when a line is crossed, Israel is obligated to protect its citizens by making your Islamic terrorist heroes noted with the term “formerly”

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you are mixing up your terms.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rather unusual, don't you think?

Well, at least it was not a terrorist attack.

(COMMENT)

No one has said what the purpose of the mortar attack might be! After the counterattack, all that changed was the destruction of two Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) locations. What the intent or expectation the HAMAS and Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) remains baffling.

Most Respectfully,
R

What is baffling? Israel was continuing its daily act of war against Gaza. Was Israel not expecting a response to that?

It seems you somehow missed the part about Israel being attacked by Islamic terrorists. Israel is not going to allow Islamic terrorists an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism.

Israel has always been the aggressor.

v/r
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you are mixing up your terms.

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rather unusual, don't you think?
(COMMENT)

No one has said what the purpose of the mortar attack might be! After the counterattack, all that changed was the destruction of two Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) locations. What the intent or expectation the HAMAS and Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) remains baffling.

Most Respectfully,
R

What is baffling? Israel was continuing its daily act of war against Gaza. Was Israel not expecting a response to that?

It seems you somehow missed the part about Israel being attacked by Islamic terrorists. Israel is not going to allow Islamic terrorists an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism.

Israel has always been the aggressor.

v/r
R

Gaza in context.

 

[abi]

Which is exactly what the Israelis did, thank you.

How did they know? And how do you know it was fired by who they claim?

Moreover, you skipped my questions and said you would answer if I answer first. I noticed your use of this tactic prior.

Care to answer now or just move on?

Well, you sidestepped my question regarding what the mortar fire was trying to rebuild by your previous statement and furthered by your first sentence above. I've also noticed this to be a tactic of yours (and many others here). But I'll go ahead and be a good sport.

I believe the questions you asked of me were in post #40, right? The first one:

You try to stay away from most of the labeling, but they're Israelis to you?

I try to stay away from the terrorist, Zionist, Islamo-nazi, anti-semite, etc. labels. For me to say Israelis, I mean the Jews, the Druze, the Arabs, the Ethiopians, and all others who are citizens of the legal State of Israel. Why do I need to think about that?

Second:

Why have you not simply come on this thread and denounce this senseless brutality from the Israelis with the same venom you denounce the children throwing stones at Israeli soldiers?

If I were to launch a mortar at your house, would it be senseless brutality for your government to retaliate against me? No. I think you would welcome your government to protect you. Further I do not recall how much venom I have used to denounce people throwing stones, maybe you have me confused with another. But since you mention it, have you ever been hit by a stone? Even one thrown by a child? Getting hit with a rock hurts and can kill no matter if an eight year old throws it, or an eighty year old.

And the real question that not one here has been able to answer, and this happens quite often, who fired that "mortar barrage?"

Guess we'll never know.

 

[teddyearp]

ROTFLMAO! Not at the fact that lives were lost mind you. Any life lost, not matter who it is, is not to be celebrated. But the lopsidedness of your video is laughable. Again, it purports the usual pro-Palestinian position that the Palestinians never commit acts of violence, no they are just innocent victims of the "Israeli aggression". The usual 'victim' card.

To continue, it is many of the Palestinians who seem to celebrate the death(s) of Jews. Like the Druze killed near the Temple Mount last summer. Like the four gunned down in a synagogue by Palestinians a couple years ago. I was in Israel a few months after the 2014 'war', in fact I was there for their Independence day celebrations. It was in fact quite somber and not as celebratory as usual. Why? Maybe it was because the Israelis did not like what had to happen the previous summer.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israel strikes militant targets in Gaza after mortar barrage
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh come now.

The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) it trying to establish a self-governing state; taking by force what they could not achieve on merit or diplomacy fails. However, after more than four decades of post Armistice conflict they have been less than successful.

DAESH wants to - through its own power -- self-declared ‘Caliphate’ from governing precepts that were embedded in Islam.

Stupid post. What country is DAESH defending?

(COMMENT)

Both seek to control as much of the territory as possible and then claim, through the right of self-determination, their sovereignty.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Which is exactly what the Israelis did, thank you.

How did they know? And how do you know it was fired by who they claim?

Moreover, you skipped my questions and said you would answer if I answer first. I noticed your use of this tactic prior.

Care to answer now or just move on?

Well, you sidestepped my question regarding what the mortar fire was trying to rebuild by your previous statement and furthered by your first sentence above. I've also noticed this to be a tactic of yours (and many others here). But I'll go ahead and be a good sport.

I believe the questions you asked of me were in post #40, right? The first one:

You try to stay away from most of the labeling, but they're Israelis to you?

I try to stay away from the terrorist, Zionist, Islamo-nazi, anti-semite, etc. labels. For me to say Israelis, I mean the Jews, the Druze, the Arabs, the Ethiopians, and all others who are citizens of the legal State of Israel. Why do I need to think about that?

Second:

Why have you not simply come on this thread and denounce this senseless brutality from the Israelis with the same venom you denounce the children throwing stones at Israeli soldiers?

If I were to launch a mortar at your house, would it be senseless brutality for your government to retaliate against me? No. I think you would welcome your government to protect you. Further I do not recall how much venom I have used to denounce people throwing stones, maybe you have me confused with another. But since you mention it, have you ever been hit by a stone? Even one thrown by a child? Getting hit with a rock hurts and can kill no matter if an eight year old throws it, or an eighty year old.

And the real question that not one here has been able to answer, and this happens quite often, who fired that "mortar barrage?"

Guess we'll never know.

You’re suggesting a conspiracy theory, right.

 

[abi]

The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) it trying to establish a self-governing state; taking by force what they could not achieve on merit or diplomacy fails.

Is this not exactly what the zionists did?

 

[abi]

You’re suggesting a conspiracy theory, right.

Not at all, I just want to know how we know. It is more than a fair question since this event was used as justification to bomb Gaza once again.