Israel strikes Hamas and Hezbollah targets

[beagle9]

Unlike you, I have been to Israel a dozen times and more. Most of my visits to Israel were in regards to military/defense related issues.
Therefore I have around 20 good friends in Israel - even Zionists! and aside from Covid exemptions - we meet every two years and many of them have visited me and my family in China. I am also good friends in China with around half a dozen Israelis.

My Grandfather ran a business together with his Jewish childhood-friend after WW1 - were they had even served in the same Battalion.
In 1932 - my grandfather anticipated a takeover by the Nazis and tried to persuade his friend to leave Germany - which he initially refused. Therefore he lost most of his money via forced-selling their commonly owned company in 1936, thus enabling his Jewish friend and family to immigrate into the USA.

Shay K. is a Colonel in the IDF reserve force - allocated to the 118th squadron at Tel-Nov Ekron, operating the Yas'ur.

You got no idea as to how stupid and ignorant you sound off to me.

And your opinion of the situation in Israel is a positive one, otherwise concerning the IDF response to the situation they have experienced then ?

 

[beagle9]

Bullshit YOU have never been to Israel - It's evident from your posting nonsense. e.g. "stepping over the border to Lebanon"
Furthermore you even stated in some other post "hopefully one day I will visit Israel"

Hmmm, 0311 is following you and giving you likes or thumbs up, and that is very weird if you ask me. I'll be watching closely your opinions from now on within this thread, especially after seeing that. Why ? Because that dude is so wrong on everything that it's hilarious...... Birds of a feather flock or stay together they say !! .

China ? Are you Chinese ??

 

[Kruska]

And your opinion of the situation in Israel is a positive one, otherwise concerning the IDF response to the situation they have experienced then ?

My opinion in this matter is crystal clear - and ALL my Israeli friends are aware of it. Most of them share it, some don't.

1. As long as Israels settlement policy doesn't change - Muslim terrorism will continue.
2. As long as the IDF (Israeli government) keeps up, it's out of proportion retaliation tactic - Muslim terrorism will increase
3. One does NOT prevent terrorism via striking the civilian population from which terrorists are recruited - that is factually nurturing terrorism.

As for the recent Hamas terrorist attack - It is the present Nethanyahu governments - job and RESPONSIBILITY to protect it's citizens from such known eventualities - they failed MISERABLY. They ABSOLUTELY failed to defend Israel and it's citizens.

The majority of Israelis is absolutely aware about this - logically they are presently enraged about Hamas's actions - who wouldn't? However Nethanyahu is presently not defending Israel at all - he is ordering and overseeing a massive retribution campaign - that only serves his known settlement interests and policy.

Eventually (it's starting already) Israel will lose the sympathy of it's traditional supporters - whilst creating a far larger international anti-Israel coalition and antipathy towards Israel. And that is NOT in the interest of Israel and especially not to the Israeli population, and certainly doesn't aid them at all, towards defending their country towards future aggression by other countries. Whereby the latter are far more a danger to Israel then those terrorist groups.

What you totally ignore is the fact - that due to the Zionist settlement policy, far more Europeans and Americans have been the victims of global Muslim terrorism (killed) then Israelis. As such if you "support" the Zionist settlement policy - you "invite" global Muslim terrorism onto your own doorstep.

The only Israeli government that ever openly recognized and acknowledged this, was the government under Yitzhak Rabin, (a former Jewish terrorist himself) thus enabling e.g. that the PLO recognized a State of Israel and it's right to exist - sadly he got assassinated by a Zionist radical/terrorist. After his death Israel's government immediacy reembarked onto it's settlement policy.

 

[Kruska]

China ? Are you Chinese ??

Because someone works and lives in the USA - he is an American?
Prejudice seems to have taken a strong grip on you

 

[buttercup]

3. One does NOT prevent terrorism via striking the civilian population from which terrorists are recruited - that is factually nurturing terrorism.

I said something similar the other day on another thread. The massive bombing of civilians, namely thousands of children, is NOT going to make Israel safer... tragically, it will almost certainly do the exact opposite, creating more enemies than there were before. As you put it, nurturing terrorism.

I'm curious to know if anyone in the 'kill them all' crowd denies that.

 

[Dalia]

Putain de Merde,
This is a simple question for all of you, are you against YES or NO that HAMAS massacred innocent people on October 7th? People sleeping at home, young people dancing? If you agree with HAMAS, then you know you're soulless, heartless assholes and you can all go burn in hell, period

 

[buttercup]

Putain de Merde,
This is a simple question for all of you, are you against YES or NO that HAMAS massacred innocent people on October 7th? People sleeping at home, young people dancing? If you agree, then you know you're soulless, heartless assholes and you can all go burn in hell, period

I don't know who you were asking, but I have stated numerous times, OF COURSE I am absolutely against the evil demonic massacre that took place on October 7. I'm against the killing of ANY innocent civilians. I mean, to me that should go without saying!

So why ask that now, on page 69, when the topic of discussion has moved on to numerous other things?

 

[Dalia]

I don't know who you were asking, but I have stated numerous times, OF COURSE I am absolutely against the evil demonic massacre that took place on October 7. I'm against the killing of ANY innocent civilians. I mean, to me that should go without saying!

So why ask that now, on page 69, when the topic of discussion has moved on to numerous other things?

I'm asking everyone this question, whether it's on page 69 or page 3, it's not important, the important thing is that people strongly condemn it.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Putain de Merde,
This is a simple question for all of you, are you against YES or NO that HAMAS massacred innocent people on October 7th? People sleeping at home, young people dancing? If you agree with HAMAS, then you know you're soulless, heartless assholes and you can all go burn in hell, period

They tell you, "of course I don't support Hamas", but they do in that their criticism is ALWAYS directed at Israel in every post. They are deceived and liars. Look at their posts from October 7th and beyond. SILENCE! Not a damn word about the massacre! Only SILENCE until days later as ISRAEL RESPONDS. Then every post is condemnation of ISRAEL for going after Hamas'.

Every post is only meant to undermine Israel and give aid and comfort to the anti Israel faction here.

They are liars.

Look at their posts now. Do they ever mention the 250 captive women and children held hostage in Gaza? NEVER.

Did they EVER condemn Hamas' WITHOUT BEING DIRECTLY ASKED? NEVER.

 

[Dalia]

They tell you, "of course I don't support Hamas", but they do in that their criticism is ALWAYS directed at Israel in every post. They are deceived and liars. Look at their posts from October 7th and beyond. SILENCE! Not a damn word about the massacre! Only SILENCE until days later as ISRAEL RESPONDS. Then every post is condemnation of ISRAEL for going after Hamas'.

Every post is only meant to undermine Israel and give aid and comfort to the anti Israel faction here.

They are liars.

Look at their posts now. Do they ever mention the 250 captive women and children held hostage in Gaza? NEVER.

Did they EVER condemn Hamas' WITHOUT BEING DIRECTLY ASKED? NEVER.

Absolutely, I read the posts and luckily I was sitting down when I found out that some members here and they will recognize themselves did not condemn HAMAS, we can almost feel nauseous but on the other hand, what is reassuring is that several other members including you are not like that.

 

[eagle1462010]

They tell you, "of course I don't support Hamas", but they do in that their criticism is ALWAYS directed at Israel in every post. They are deceived and liars. Look at their posts from October 7th and beyond. SILENCE! Not a damn word about the massacre! Only SILENCE until days later as ISRAEL RESPONDS. Then every post is condemnation of ISRAEL for going after Hamas'.

Every post is only meant to undermine Israel and give aid and comfort to the anti Israel faction here.

They are liars.

Look at their posts now. Do they ever mention the 250 captive women and children held hostage in Gaza? NEVER.

Did they EVER condemn Hamas' WITHOUT BEING DIRECTLY ASKED? NEVER.

It is Psychological Warfare.

They dont really ever condemn the attacks....its just a way in to try and turn you against Israel.

Same BS they use on wokeness.

The arab world hates Israel....PERIOD..

Hamas's goal is Israel's complete destruction.

The middle east are all governed by Theology. They have run out or killed everyone not like them out of their countries.

Those that have seen this for a half century or more know this.

I support Israel. Everyone else can go to hell.

 

[Hollie]

My opinion in this matter is crystal clear - and ALL my Israeli friends are aware of it. Most of them share it, some don't.

1. As long as Israels settlement policy doesn't change - Muslim terrorism will continue.
2. As long as the IDF (Israeli government) keeps up, it's out of proportion retaliation tactic - Muslim terrorism will increase
3. One does NOT prevent terrorism via striking the civilian population from which terrorists are recruited - that is factually nurturing terrorism.

As for the recent Hamas terrorist attack - It is the present Nethanyahu governments - job and RESPONSIBILITY to protect it's citizens from such known eventualities - they failed MISERABLY. They ABSOLUTELY failed to defend Israel and it's citizens.

The majority of Israelis is absolutely aware about this - logically they are presently enraged about Hamas's actions - who wouldn't? However Nethanyahu is presently not defending Israel at all - he is ordering and overseeing a massive retribution campaign - that only serves his known settlement interests and policy.

Eventually (it's starting already) Israel will lose the sympathy of it's traditional supporters - whilst creating a far larger international anti-Israel coalition and antipathy towards Israel. And that is NOT in the interest of Israel and especially not to the Israeli population, and certainly doesn't aid them at all, towards defending their country towards future aggression by other countries. Whereby the latter are far more a danger to Israel then those terrorist groups.

What you totally ignore is the fact - that due to the Zionist settlement policy, far more Europeans and Americans have been the victims of global Muslim terrorism (killed) then Israelis. As such if you "support" the Zionist settlement policy - you "invite" global Muslim terrorism onto your own doorstep.

The only Israeli government that ever openly recognized and acknowledged this, was the government under Yitzhak Rabin, (a former Jewish terrorist himself) thus enabling e.g. that the PLO recognized a State of Israel and it's right to exist - sadly he got assassinated by a Zionist radical/terrorist. After his death Israel's government immediacy reembarked onto it's settlement policy.

As such if you "support" the Zionist settlement policy - you "invite" global Muslim terrorism onto your own doorstep.

The above typifies the mindset of the Islamic terrorist. They feel an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism if their demands aren’t met.

It’s the excuse offered by the criminal who broke into a home and shot the homeowner who confronted him. “I wouldn’t have had to shoot him if he hadn’t been home, so it’s not my fault”, said the criminal.

I can’t help but note Krusty is fine with acts of Islamic terrorism as long as Israel plays nice and responds proportionately™

We’re seeing from Krusty the arrogant, bellicose demands from an arrogant, bellicose politico religious ideology. The wars that muhammud fought in and lead, the expulsion of competing religions from the Arabian peninsula, the tacit permission for his soldiers to rape war captives. The permission of sexual slavery (or slavery at all). The assassination of political rivals. The practice of banditry and caravan raids. The marriage to Aisha. The very reason these occurrences are even a part of the historical record is because Moslems recorded these events. They were perfectly fine with the ideas of sexual slavery, genocide, slaughter of war captives and piracy. Those behaviors were not morally objectionable to them, and so they were dutifully recorded with the intention of preserving the history of muhammud as an example for all later Moslems.

All of the behaviors described above were perfectly acceptable in the context of a brutal existence in 7th century Arabia. While it may be unfair to cast judgments regarding Muhammud as a 7th century Arab warlord in the context of his time, we have no legitimate reason to accept his behavior in the context of the 21st century. Moslems still viewmuhammud as the perfect example for humanity.

However, the standards for judgment are different if, rather than judging Muhammud as a 7th century Arab warlord, we instead are judging him as a "model for humanity". In that sense, muhammud's behavior is irreconcilable with the ethics of either a good man or the standards of behavior we define as acceptable in the 21 st century.

 

[Deadstick]

You knuckleheads brought about the Jews taking refuge in the word again, so deal with it.

A History lesson for you arsehole.

 

[Ringo]

Do you support Israel?

https://idiod.video/57wdak.mp4

 

[hadit]

/----/ Ya think?

Ya gotta love how they seem to think history only starts when Israel does something. Before that, apparently, nothing happened.

 

[Deadstick]

Israeli tank opens fire on civilian car in Gaza, no surprise it's their MO.

 

[hadit]

Israeli tank opens fire on civilian car in Gaza, no surprise it's their MO.

Would it be better if the Israelis staged sneak attacks on Palestinian civilians, giving them no opportunity to escape, no warning whatsoever, just a pounding on a door in the middle of the night, followed by knives slicing throats, bullets spraying through the night, bodies thrown alive into fires, etc.? Would that make it all better?

 

[Billo_Really]

The US Government differs with you. They're saying Iran has military stuff bigger than any other country in the Middle East.

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A US Defense Department report describes the country's missile forces as the largest in the Middle East.​

It's not possible to give precise figures but the US-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies says Iran has thousands of missiles of more than a dozen different types.​

An Iranian media outlet reported that Fateh and Qiam missiles were used in the attack on the US base.​

Military analysts have also pointed to the use of these types based on images of the attack sites.​

The Qiam-1 missile has been widely produced since 2011, has a range of up 700km and a payload (an indication of how much explosive material it can carry) of 750kg. It was used by Iran against IS fighters in June 2017.​

The Fateh class of missiles, which first went into service in the early 2000s, have a slightly lower payload.​

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The variations of the Shahab-3 intermediate range ballistic missile have payloads of more than 750kg and ranges upwards of 1,500km.​

For comparison, a US-built F35 fighter jet has a payload of up to 10,000kg.​

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Iran attack: How strong is Iran's military?

Iran has struck at air bases housing US forces in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of a top general - what military forces does Iran have?

www.bbc.com

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That's a bunch of bullshit! 70% of Iran's population is under 30 years old. How much longer are those old mullahs going to rule?

 

[hadit]

That's a bunch of bullshit! 70% of Iran's population is under 30 years old. How much longer are those old mullahs going to rule?

As long as they have replacements ready to step into their shoes when they die.

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh, dear. I hurt your feelings.

I don't have feelings.