Israel is kicking ass

[Shusha]

Can you give an example of any atrocity committed by any government that you have seen proof of?

Hamas attacks on October 7, specifically:

• targeting and killing of children
• targeting and killing of civilians
• targeting and abducting civilians
• rape as weapon of war
• calls for committing these events again

Edited to add: I'll give you one from the other side.

• destruction of the family homes of terrorists

 

[gipper]

I have seen absolutely no evidence that Israel has done anything outside of international law, let alone that there have been "atrocities". Perhaps you can provide some specific details that would support your position. But you won't. You'll just make the same demonizing smears.

Why lie like a fanatical Nazi, when Israel press reports it?
Beatings, humiliation and torture: The IDF's night of terror at a Palestinian refugee camp

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hamas attacks on October 7, specifically:

• targeting and killing of children
• targeting and killing of civilians
• targeting and abducting civilians
• rape as weapon of war
• calls for committing these events again

I don't understand, these are the very things that Israel and the IDF stand accused of too, so why the selectivity?

 

[Shusha]

Why lie like a fanatical Nazi, when Israel press reports it?
Beatings, humiliation and torture: The IDF's night of terror at a Palestinian refugee camp

Can't access this article. I looked for similar articles and couldn't find any. (Admittedly a very brief search).

 

[Shusha]

I don't understand, these are the very things that Israel and the IDF stand accused of too, so why the selectivity?

Because I haven't seen any evidence of Israel, as policy, committing any of these acts. And I have seen evidence to the contrary.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Because I haven't seen any evidence of Israel, as policy, committing any of these acts. And I have seen evidence to the contrary.

But others have, that's evident (no pun intended) if you visit Google and search for "Gaza atrocities" have you done that yet?

 

[Shusha]

But others have, that's evident (no pun intended) if you visit Google and search for "Gaza atrocities" have you done that yet?

Present something, if you have something.

 

[gipper]

Can't access this article. I looked for similar articles and couldn't find any. (Admittedly a very brief search).

Sooner or later you’ll have to accept reality and then, you’ll deny you supported genocide.

 

[Shusha]

Sooner or later you’ll have to accept reality and then, you’ll deny you supported genocide.

Great. Thanks for providing specifics.

1. Israel is bombing hospitals and schools.
2. Israel is bombing refugee camps.
3. Israel is targeting WCK aide workers.
4. Israel is targeting UNWRA workers.
5. Israel has killed 15,000 children.

Let's discuss. Did you have one in particular you wanted to discuss first? Your choice.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Present something, if you have something.

Why? I'm not trying to influence what you believe, that's your choice. But I am interested in the trail of posts you leave as we discuss this, that trail is evidence, evidence of atrocity denialism and Zionist apologetics.

Claiming "I haven't seen any evidence" is a very different affirmation to "There is no evidence".

Of course anyone searching "Gaza atrocities" will see lots and lots of sites/reports/articles detailing examples of evidence for war crimes.

If you refuse to look for evidence you'll never see it, so in your case you are choosing to ignore evidence. Holocaust deniers do exactly the same thing, ignore evidence, dismiss claims of evidence as bogus, tactics used to discredit true evidence by smearing the very idea that there was a Holocaust, this is what they do, its how they work and its exactly the way you work.

Now, you must explain why Google "Gaza atrocities" is uncomfortable, why you refuse to do it, the only reason is you've predetermined that whatever results come back are lies, propaganda, fiction, make believe as part of the global Jew hatred that infects the whole world which is just antisemitic anyway.

If this is how you sleep at night, if this self deception makes your fake morality appear real to you, then fine, I understand, denialism does have some benefits.

 

[Shusha]

Why? I'm not trying to influence what you believe, that's your choice. But I am interested in the trail of posts you leave as we discuss this, that trail is evidence, evidence of atrocity denialism and Zionist apologetics.

Claiming "I haven't seen any evidence" is a very different affirmation to "There is no evidence".

Of course anyone searching "Gaza atrocities" will see lots and lots of sites/reports/articles detailing examples of evidence for war crimes.

If you refuse to look for evidence you'll never see it, so in your case you are choosing to ignore evidence. Holocaust deniers do exactly the same thing, ignore evidence, dismiss claims of evidence as bogus, tactics used to discredit true evidence by smearing the very idea that there was a Holocaust, this is what they do, its how they work and its exactly the way you work.

Now, you must explain why Google "Gaza atrocities" is uncomfortable, why you refuse to do it, the only reason is you've predetermined that whatever results come back are lies, propaganda, fiction, make believe as part of the global Jew hatred that infects the whole world which is just antisemitic anyway.

If this is how you sleep at night, if this self deception makes your fake morality appear real to you, then fine, I understand, denialism does have some benefits.

You (I assume deliberately) misunderstand. I am not ill-informed on the subject. On the contrary, I am very well-read. I've seen plenty of lies, falsehoods, fake claims, and exaggeration about the war. I'm not interested in seeing more. What I haven't seen, and I believe it not to exist, is evidence of Israel acting outside the law.

Of course, you don't actually want to discuss reality. You only want to demonize Israel.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You (I assume deliberately) misunderstand. I am not ill-informed on the subject. On the contrary, I am very well-read. I've seen plenty of lies, falsehoods, fake claims, and exaggeration about the war. I'm not interested in seeing more. What I haven't seen, and I believe it not to exist, is evidence of Israel acting outside the law.

Of course, you don't actually want to discuss reality. You only want to demonize Israel.

Once again, this is not a question of an absence of evidence but of an absence of character and will power, your character and will power to accept painful truths.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Once again, this is not a question of an absence of evidence but of an absence of character and will power, your character and will power to accept painful truths.

Ah yes, the tired charlatan tactic.

Doesn't want to talk about the evidence, but wants to be allowed to call things "truth" for which he can't show any evidence.

Charlatan doublespeak

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I doubt Nazinyahu gives a sh1t, he knows the Democrats won't say Boo! to a goose else the Zionist lobby will kick in and decimate Harris's chances of winning against "Israel's friend Trump".

The MAGA dummies cry about "election interference" seemingly oblivious to the fact that Israel is a master at such treachery.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Houses built on stolen land are houses built on sand...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hmm, seems there's some ass-kicking in the other direction today:

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Echoes of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - but this time it's Jews playing the role of Nazis and let's be fair, they are rather good at it.

As the Jews in Warsaw once said "We're all going to be killed anyway eventually, so lets die on our terms no theirs".

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Of course this could be a lie, the US might be seeking a pretext to preemptively bombard Iran and the clams it is planning an imminent attack are false, all part of the game - we'll see soon enough I guess.