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The first problem is glaring: the Golan. Give it to Syria? WHY? Do you like the Syrian regime? The Golan enables whoever holds it to fire down into the other country. Syria did that to Israel repeatedly.Oh sure.. The Saudi Peace initiative which is still on the table from 2002 is a capitulation by the Arabs and all Arab states including Syria signed on. They just need to vacate Shaaba farms in Lebanon and the Golan Heights in Syria.. Let Palestinians live in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. They are so over the notion that Israel should leave ..That's been in the rear view mirror for over 25 years..
Everyone was so excited that King Abdullah order a study to rebuild Tapline with a spur to Haifa to bring cheap oil to Israel.. and all manner of plans and schemes to create jobs and infrastructure for the Palestinians. They think jobs are essential for peace you know.
That's real pretty, but given that among those who want to destroy Israel are Hamas and Fatah, just how do we arrive at a peace deal? Hey, I know some Arabs who would sign a peace deal, let's take them over them and...There is no "Arab side", they are not unified, they are as diverse as any other group. Will there be Arabs that want to destroy Israel? Sure, but there will also be Arabs that only want justice for Palestinians and the opportunity to live in peace with Israel.
The first problem is glaring: the Golan. Give it to Syria? WHY? Do you like the Syrian regime? The Golan enables whoever holds it to fire down into the other country. Syria did that to Israel repeatedly.
I wonder... is the Golan now considered "Palestine"? lol...
What the Saudis and King Abdullah claim to want is not the same as what the PA and Hamas want. Check with Hamas about being "over the notion that Israel should leave." They'll laugh.
Utter despair? More like utter fanaticism. Why would they be in utter despair? Now if it's despair you want, visit Guatemala... or Yemen... or Tibet... or Xinjiang (Uighurs), or North Korea, or Haiti...They are driven by utter despair. The matter has been studied at length. Look what you have accomplished after 70 years of foreign aid.
Israel can fire on Damascus from the Golan. That statement must be out of context. I've read many times over the years about how Israel occupying the Golan put an end to Syria's possibility of ever attacking Israel again.Martin Van Cleveld is Israel's foremost military historian .. He says the West Bank ad Syria's Golan Heights are useless in defense of Israel.
The "Palestinian", so-called, population doubled due to immigration of Arabs from other countries for the jobs created by Zionists.You mean taking land from the Palestinians and offering them some of it back? The population of Palestine had doubled in 15 years with European Refugees who belittled the Arab Christians and Muslims.
The land was Jewish land stolen by others... how conveniently the dupes of Arab propaganda forget about history before 1920.Israel was given land by the British where other people had lived for thousands of years. Wasn't that enough?
Passover was a massacre of the firstborn, wasn't it?
Apartheid was ended in South Africa when Mandela was elected President.So its aparthied or oblivion.. You drama queens are so predictable.
The "Palestinian", so-called, population doubled due to immigration of Arabs from other countries for the jobs created by Zionists.
Unfortunately when Jewish land was taken, none was offered back, or in return. They just got to migrate into Roman cities due to the ethnic cleansing.
Ovens that never had gas installed ? If they had the lice population could have been controlled
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Ben and Jerry will refuse to sell their ice cream in Palestinian territory held by Israel.
I fully anticipate a reversal of all policies from the Zionist nation as they travel back to Germany and crawl back into their ovens.
Fatah has tried to negotiate with Israel but they are so weak Israel doesn't take them seriously.That's real pretty, but given that among those who want to destroy Israel are Hamas and Fatah, just how do we arrive at a peace deal? Hey, I know some Arabs who would sign a peace deal, let's take them over them and...
It is not possible, ok. You have to get the jihadis out of the way, and see how well that's worked in Afghanistan?
Many of the Arabs there did arrive after the Zionists had created jobs. That's a fact. Yasshole Arafat was Egyptian!The Zionist love to claim that Arabs moved to Israel after the Jews arrived. Read the Ottoman census of 1870.
By the birth of Christ most Jews lived in Alexandria, Elephantine Island, Aleppo, Damascus, Persia, Rome and all around the Mediterranean Sea.
Fatah has rejected every attempt. Fatah teaches the children in the West Bank that it is admirable and noble to kill Jews. Fatah's leaders are corrupt to the core, appropriating most aid money for themselves. Fatah is the same group committing genocidal terrorist murders against Jews since the 1920's. FFF Fatah.Fatah has tried to negotiate with Israel but they are so weak Israel doesn't take them seriously.
So.. you are a Holocaust denier? The lowest form of slime. Such as you do not deserve life.Ovens that never had gas installed ? If they had the lice population could have been controlled
Yet Fatah recognizes the Oslo accords.Fatah has rejected every attempt. Fatah teaches the children in the West Bank that it is admirable and noble to kill Jews. Fatah's leaders are corrupt to the core, appropriating most aid money for themselves. Fatah is the same group committing genocidal terrorist murders against Jews since the 1920's. FFF Fatah.
And... so... ???Yet Fatah recognizes the Oslo accords.
Sorry but I don't see it as Good guys vs Bad guys. It is both sides that prefer victory to peace.And... so... ???
Do you think that making the W Bank a state would stop the terrorism against Israel?
That's what happens when the violence starts.Sorry but I don't see it as Good guys vs Bad guys. It is both sides that prefer victory to peace.
Israel does in fact consistently seeks resolution and peace but also to hold and expand its territory.But... one has to understand the history of this conflict. Israel in fact consistently seeks resolution and peace, but the other side will not cooperate. That is proven repeatedly. And the whole mess started with Nazi-inspired terrorism against Jews in Mandatory Palestine in the 1920's. The Jews came in peace... returned in peace, we should say.
I'm not familiar with "history's greatest genocide" other than the Holocaust. That religion has, over the centuries taken in Jews that have been expelled from Christian countries and treated them well. It has only been the return of Jews to Palestine that have led to Muslim-Jewish violence and, as I see it, both sides are guilty.It is counter to Islam to allow any formerly ruled territory to revert to non-Islamic rule. THAT is the essential problem here---that bloody "religion". Before objecting to this comment, read up on the history of Islamic conquests. History's greatest genocide is among them.
As you see it, apparently, Muslims have the right to expand and oppress globally, while Jews lack even the right to their own country. You imply that the anti-Jewish racist genocidal riots in Arab countries in 1947-8 were justified! That's a morally decrepit stance.Israel does in fact consistently seeks resolution and peace but also to hold and expand its territory.
I'm not familiar with "history's greatest genocide" other than the Holocaust. That religion has, over the centuries taken in Jews that have been expelled from Christian countries and treated them well. It has only been the return of Jews to Palestine that have led to Muslim-Jewish violence and, as I see it, both sides are guilty.
