Israel demands correction from Sanders,It only killed 532 Palestinian kids in summer 2014!

[Boston1]

It isn't a war when one side are an blockaded and occupied people with handheld firearms and the other side has fighter bombers, armor, warships and artillery. It's like saying the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were in a war against the Nazis. Grow up.

Its a war not because of the disparity in competency or arms, its a war because the Arab Muslims declared a condition of war to the world when they declared they were moving their military forces against the Israeli's in 1948.

The Geneva Conventions clearly stipulate what a war is. Maybe you should read it sometime

 

[Boston1]

Of course there is no proof by the IslamoNazi for "100s of children dying at a pop" unless you count all the terror attacks committed by Palestinians on Israeli schools, school buses, nurseries, restaurants, parks, etc.

Notice there was absolutely NO effort to substantiate that claim.

 

[Boston1]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

 

[Roudy]

Of course there is no proof by the IslamoNazi for "100s of children dying at a pop" unless you count all the terror attacks committed by Palestinians on Israeli schools, school buses, nurseries, restaurants, parks, etc.

Notice there was absolutely NO effort to substantiate that claim.

It's a hate driven agenda. The mission is to demonize Jews 24/7. And it's failing epically.

 

[Coyote]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

 

[Coyote]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

When it comes to abusing civilians - I don't see any difference in whether it's one's own or anothers.

 

[Boston1]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

I would note however your link clearly states

Quote


According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years, and only on one occasion did a Palestinian civilian get hurt.

An 18-year-old Palestinian was killed in 2002 during one such operation.

Mofaz instructed the IDF to freeze the use of the ‘human shield’ and ‘early warning’ procedures in its arrest operations in the territories until the Court holds a new hearing on the issue.

End Quote

Clearly the court considered arrested or detained Arab Muslims in Israel as human shields regardless of IDF actions. The mere fact that they held them made them targets alongside the IDF soldiers. Which IMHO is BS. The soldiers must be allowed to transport the detainees to a place of internment.

The blog present NO documentation and notes NO specific court cases in respect to this alleged ruling.

In a nut shell

I'm still not buying it

 

[montelatici]

By the way, murdering 100s of children at a pop isn't defending anyone.

Do you really think they target children?

Of course. Bombing residential apartment buildings housing families is de facto targeting children. The Russians did the same in Chechnya and were roundly accused of targeting children by the U.S. Why would it be different for Israel?

 

[Coyote]

The simple fact is that its a war, its a war the Arab Muslims started, its a war the Arab Muslims insist on continuing and its a war in which the Arab Muslims thrust their woman and children forward as human shields.

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

 

[Coyote]

By the way, murdering 100s of children at a pop isn't defending anyone.

Do you really think they target children?

Of course. Bombing residential apartment buildings housing families is de facto targeting children. The Russians did the same in Chechnya and were roundly accused of targeting children by the U.S. Why would it be different for Israel?

How should Israel handle it if Hamas militants were in those place? I'm just curious as to what you think they should do.

 

[Boston1]

By the way, murdering 100s of children at a pop isn't defending anyone.

Do you really think they target children?

Of course. Bombing residential apartment buildings housing families is de facto targeting children. The Russians did the same in Chechnya and were roundly accused of targeting children by the U.S. Why would it be different for Israel?

Sources ?

Thus far your just blowing more smoke

And whats that got to do with Bernie Sanders anyway ?

 

[montelatici]

The Israelis control Gaza as the British controlled Derry. The British sent in troops (at great risk) to capture IRA combatants, they did not bomb apartment buildings housing families killing hundreds of women and children at a pop. That is how civilized societies handle these types of situations. I am always surprised how some consider Palestinian children more disposable than other children.

 

[montelatici]

By the way, murdering 100s of children at a pop isn't defending anyone.

Do you really think they target children?

Of course. Bombing residential apartment buildings housing families is de facto targeting children. The Russians did the same in Chechnya and were roundly accused of targeting children by the U.S. Why would it be different for Israel?

Sources ?

Thus far your just blowing more smoke

And whats that got to do with Bernie Sanders anyway ?

I am answering a direct question you clown.

 

[Boston1]

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

 

[Boston1]

The Israelis control Gaza as the British controlled Derry. The British sent in troops (at great risk) to capture IRA combatants, they did not bomb apartment buildings housing families killing hundreds of women and children at a pop. That is how civilized societies handle these types of situations. I am always surprised how some consider Palestinian children more disposable than other children.

You are blithering on wildly off topic.

Has that anything to do with Bernie Sander ?

 

[Coyote]

That's not true either. Both sides have been guilty of using human sheilds.

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

The same UN reports cite crimes by Hamas - are they to be likewise disregarded?

One of the articles discuss high court rulings on the use of human shields.

Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields

The Israeli high court yesterday ruled that the army's long-standing practice of using Palestinian civilians as human shields in combat is illegal under international law. It said the military's claim to have amended the procedure to allow civilians to "volunteer" to work with the army was still unacceptable because it was unlikely anyone would freely do so.

"You cannot exploit the civilian population for the army's military needs, and you cannot force them to collaborate," said the Israeli chief justice, Aharon Barak. "Based on this principle, we rule it illegal to use civilians as human shields."


The case was brought more than three years ago by human rights organisations that said the army routinely forced Palestinian civilians into dangerous situations as a means to protect soldiers. Some of the most common methods were to force Palestinians into buildings to see if they were booby-trapped, or to enter the hideouts of wanted men and tell them to surrender. Soldiers also forced civilians to stand in front of them when on patrol.


At least one human shield was killed, and others have been wounded. Nidal Daraghmeh, a 19-year-old Palestinian student, was shot dead after troops forced him to knock on the door of a wanted Hamas fugitive and shooting broke out.


Seven Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups told the court the use of civilians in any capacity in military operations breached the Geneva conventions.
​

I have a Bernie Sanders Pumpkin Pie reciepe somewhere....

I think Bernie would condemn the use of human sheilds by both Israel and by Hamas. That's the kind of guy I think he is. Decent. Not something that can be said of many politicians.

 

[Coyote]

The Israelis control Gaza as the British controlled Derry. The British sent in troops (at great risk) to capture IRA combatants, they did not bomb apartment buildings housing families killing hundreds of women and children at a pop. That is how civilized societies handle these types of situations. I am always surprised how some consider Palestinian children more disposable than other children.

No children are disposable - whether they are the child targets of Hamas terrorists or children bombed on a beach during an offensive. Once you start dehumanizing one another, children cease to be children. That's why I wonder if Odium could look a child in the eye and kill him.

What do you think of Odium's remarks on genocide?

 

[member]

Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes

What bullshit yall got to justify this?

Sanders, although misguided, is a man of principles. This is proven by the fact that, although Jewish, he might disagree with Israel's actions. You, however, are nothing but a bigoted Hitler wannabe. This is proven by your disgusting signature line, which is supposedly an "old Polish saying". That makes you lose all credibility. You are motivated by nothing but irrational Jew-hatred. You will use Sanders, a man of principles, to destroy Israel and then send him off to the firing squad. How do I know this? Because you have previously threatened my life for my crime of being Jewish!

"SANDERS"




2016: “it's been so long since the Brooklyn native regularly took the subway,



...he still thinks we use tokens . . . … it appears he has not yet heard of the MetroCard.



Sanders, who has lived in Vermont since...

1968,
was apparently unaware that the subway token went extinct




in 2003"................................... don't forget me...

 

[Hollie]

The Israelis control Gaza as the British controlled Derry. The British sent in troops (at great risk) to capture IRA combatants, they did not bomb apartment buildings housing families killing hundreds of women and children at a pop. That is how civilized societies handle these types of situations. I am always surprised how some consider Palestinian children more disposable than other children.

There's a way to reduce your befuddlement regarding some who consider Arab-Moslem children (and women) as a disposable commodity.

Ask your Islamic terrorist heroes why they put those women and children in harms way.

 

[Boston1]

I'm not buying it. Oh both sides have made mistakes but thats not one of them

The Israeli's detain Arab Muslims and transport them.

This is entirely different than using ones own as human shields.

I'm not sure there is a single documented incident of the Israeli's using human shields

The Israeli's have been guilty of using Palestinian children as human sheilds - not detaining and transporting them.

Israeli High Court: Israeli Soldiers Used Palestinians as Human Shields 1,200 Times Washington's Blog

A blog site, ? really ?

I"ll dig into the claim but from a blog site, it requires one very large chunk of salt

It was the first one that came up - however, here are more:

U.N. report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, abusing children in custody
IDF soldiers convicted of using 11-year-old as human shield in Gaza
Mofaz: IDF to appeal 'human shield' ruling
Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

First link

UN committee, thats all I need to hear.

Second link

sorry no subscription

Third link

makes no specific citation of any court action. IE it just says there was a court action but fails to link to the specific case.

Fourth link

The case was thrown out.

Again we have NO evidence directly supporting this claim

Nor do we have mention of good ole Bernie Sanders Pumpkin. Topic, remember topic ;--)

The same UN reports cite crimes by Hamas - are they to be likewise disregarded?

One of the articles discuss high court rulings on the use of human shields.

Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields

The Israeli high court yesterday ruled that the army's long-standing practice of using Palestinian civilians as human shields in combat is illegal under international law. It said the military's claim to have amended the procedure to allow civilians to "volunteer" to work with the army was still unacceptable because it was unlikely anyone would freely do so.

"You cannot exploit the civilian population for the army's military needs, and you cannot force them to collaborate," said the Israeli chief justice, Aharon Barak. "Based on this principle, we rule it illegal to use civilians as human shields."


The case was brought more than three years ago by human rights organisations that said the army routinely forced Palestinian civilians into dangerous situations as a means to protect soldiers. Some of the most common methods were to force Palestinians into buildings to see if they were booby-trapped, or to enter the hideouts of wanted men and tell them to surrender. Soldiers also forced civilians to stand in front of them when on patrol.


At least one human shield was killed, and others have been wounded. Nidal Daraghmeh, a 19-year-old Palestinian student, was shot dead after troops forced him to knock on the door of a wanted Hamas fugitive and shooting broke out.


Seven Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups told the court the use of civilians in any capacity in military operations breached the Geneva conventions.
​

I have a Bernie Sanders Pumpkin Pie reciepe somewhere....

I think Bernie would condemn the use of human sheilds by both Israel and by Hamas. That's the kind of guy I think he is. Decent. Not something that can be said of many politicians.

Discussed and probably injected a lot of opinion into high court rulings. I'd like to be able to read the courts decisions myself as well as the dissenting view. So why is there no link ?

Also

Yes, I don't believe much of anything out of the UN these days. Its about the most politicized organization out there and its 100% spin.

I'm just wondering when the UN will demand a correction from Sanders ;--)