Is Zionism a sophisticated Hegelian Dialectic?

[Sunni Man]

I was a Christian for many years before I converted to Islam.

Held Bible studies, preached at churches, held home Bible studies, taught Sunday school, etc.

Basically, know the Bible inside and out; both OT & NT

And I seriously doubt that you have read the Bible cover to cover as many times as I have.

In fact I went to a Synagouge for a couple of years in order to study the Torah and Tanach (O.T.) with the Jews.

So I doubt that you can out debate me on the exegesis of the Bible but your welcome to try

 

[teapartysamurai]

I was a Christian for many years before I converted to Islam.

Held Bible studies, preached at churches, held home Bible studies, taught Sunday school, etc.

Basically, know the Bible inside and out; both OT & NT

And I seriously doubt that you have read the Bible cover to cover as many times as I have.

In fact I went to a Synagouge for a couple of years in order to study the Torah and Tanach (O.T.) with the Jews.

So I doubt that you can out debate me on the exegesis of the Bible but your welcome to try

Yeah, that's why you are sputtering about your credentials instead of providing any proof.

Well, show me the scripture that says how Mary dressed and where is the Scripture that Jesus taught honor killing?

I don't care what kind of bonafides you claim, pal, YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE TAKING ON ME!

Notice, I don't try to make a lot of claims about my bonafides, I just tell you, I KNOW you will lose debating me on this.

Put up or shut up!

Because if you notice, no one else in this thread takes YOU, seriously.

 

[Sunni Man]

Notice, I don't try to make a lot of claims about my bonafides, I just tell you, I KNOW you will lose debating me on the Bible.

Put up or shut up!

Because if you notice, no one else in this thread takes YOU, seriously.

TPS you have no bonafides (what ever that is??)

And basically, you are a joke here at USMB

 

[teapartysamurai]

Notice, I don't try to make a lot of claims about my bonafides, I just tell you, I KNOW you will lose debating me on the Bible.

Put up or shut up!

Because if you notice, no one else in this thread takes YOU, seriously.

TPS you have no bonafides (what ever that is??)

And basically, you are a joke here at USMB

I think we see the joke.

You aren't even going to try and back up your BS.

YOU LOSE!

I told you if you take me on regarding the Bible, you would lose.

 

[Sunni Man]

I remember you from before TPS

You basically add nothing to any debate.

But claim that you won.. (won what??)

I rarely do this but I am putting you on ignore.

Bye

 

[whitehall]

This ain't a conspiracy thread. It's an excuse for a anti-semetic bigoted rant.

 

[georgephillip]

Remember the Minni Mouse in a Burkah avatar and how we all would be in burkahs one day?

I have a good memory, and you can't lie your way around it.

Take that burkah and shove it up your butt!

I notice how you deleted the article about what happens to 14 year old school girls when they flee a burning building without that stupid garb.

Very cowardly of you! Can't you address the savagery of forcing girls to wear that crap?

Let's remind everyone of what the coward won't address:




BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue

Or how about these:

Honor Killing: Teen strangled by father for refusing hijab *update* teen dies from injuries
Honor Killing: Teen strangled by father for refusing hijab *update* teen dies from injuries

'Wear the hijab or I'll kill you, cousin told girl'
'Wear the hijab or I'll kill you, cousin told girl' | Stop honour killings!

You think you can lie and prevaricate your way out of this?

There are too many news stories about it for you to get away with it.

Explain why rich US elites from George W. to B. Obama claim Saudis are the "good Arabs"?

Give me the quotes of Dubya saying that IN A SITE BESIDES YOUR STUPID COMMIE WEBSITES LIKE COMMON DREAMS!

Last time I checked most of the 9/11 Hijackers WERE Saudis.

Why did Bush allow Saudis to fly in the aftermath of 911?

"House of Bush, House of Saud begins with a simple question: How is it that two days after September 11, 2001, when American air traffic was all but shut down, 140 Saudi citizens, many kin to Osama bin Laden, were permitted to leave the country?

"Why didn't the FBI question the people on the planes? Why did a Saudi billionaire socialize in the White House with President George W. Bush on September 13, and why did Saudi Arabia - the birthplace of nearly all of the hijackers - get preferential treatment from the White House even at the World Trade Center continued to burn?

"The answers to these questions - and ones far more troubling - lie in a largely hidden relationship that began in the mid-1970s, when the oil-rich House of Saud set out for America in the wake of the OPEC oil embargo and soaring oil prices.

"Saudi Arabia needed American military protection and a place to invest its billions of petrodollars. Like wildcatting oil drillers, the Saudis began prospecting among promising American politicians, including the Bush family.

"And with the Bushes, the Saudis hit a gusher - direct access to presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, as well as to Secretary of State James Baker, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and the entire U.S. intelligence apparatus.

House of Bush, House of Saud

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I remember you from before TPS

You basically add nothing to any debate.

But claim that you won.. (won what??)

I rarely do this but I am putting you on ignore.

Bye

Got your ass handed to you so cry like a biatch and place the person on ignore.. Hahahahaha

L O S E R

 

[teapartysamurai]

I remember you from before TPS

You basically add nothing to any debate.

But claim that you won.. (won what??)

I rarely do this but I am putting you on ignore.

Bye

In other words I kicked your ass so you are running like a little something that starts with a Capital B!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Explain why rich US elites from George W. to B. Obama claim Saudis are the "good Arabs"?

Give me the quotes of Dubya saying that IN A SITE BESIDES YOUR STUPID COMMIE WEBSITES LIKE COMMON DREAMS!

Last time I checked most of the 9/11 Hijackers WERE Saudis.

Why did Bush allow Saudis to fly in the aftermath of 911?

"House of Bush, House of Saud begins with a simple question: How is it that two days after September 11, 2001, when American air traffic was all but shut down, 140 Saudi citizens, many kin to Osama bin Laden, were permitted to leave the country?

"Why didn't the FBI question the people on the planes? Why did a Saudi billionaire socialize in the White House with President George W. Bush on September 13, and why did Saudi Arabia - the birthplace of nearly all of the hijackers - get preferential treatment from the White House even at the World Trade Center continued to burn?

"The answers to these questions - and ones far more troubling - lie in a largely hidden relationship that began in the mid-1970s, when the oil-rich House of Saud set out for America in the wake of the OPEC oil embargo and soaring oil prices.

"Saudi Arabia needed American military protection and a place to invest its billions of petrodollars. Like wildcatting oil drillers, the Saudis began prospecting among promising American politicians, including the Bush family.

"And with the Bushes, the Saudis hit a gusher - direct access to presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, as well as to Secretary of State James Baker, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and the entire U.S. intelligence apparatus.

House of Bush, House of Saud

That has LONG BEEN DUBUNKED as nothing more than a Michael Moore crackpot conspiracy theory!

I asked for quotes from Bush. And you give me a debunked load of crap!

Moore then tells us that, “In the days following September 11th, all commercial and private air line traffic was grounded” but that a group of Saudis, including Bin Laden family members staying in America, was permitted to fly out of the country. He then implies that something was wrong with these flights, that the people who departed were not properly interviewed by the FBI, and that this happened because the Saudis used their influence with the White House. He even has a former FBI agent (whom he admits was no longer in the FBI by the time of the attacks and so would have no direct knowledge of what happened) say that these people should have been interviewed.

But Moore’s assertions are all wrong. First of all, the flights carrying Bin Laden family members did not take place while other civilian flights were grounded, as Moore suggests. The one flight that actually carried Bin Laden family members took place on September 20, a week after flight restrictions had been lifted. Flights carrying other Saudis also occurred on or after September 13, when flying was no longer restricted. Also, all the Saudis who left the country on the flights Moore mentions were in fact thoroughly interviewed by the FBI before leaving. And finally, the flights were approved personally (and exclusively) by White House counterterrorism head Richard Clarke, whom Moore later cites with approval as an authority.

The 9/11 Commission Report makes short shrift of all of Moore’s accusations, stating that the commission “found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001. To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened.” It states further that there was “no evidence of political intervention” to permit the flights, and finally observes that, “the FBI interviewed all persons of interest on these flights prior to their departures. They concluded that none of the passengers was connected to the 9/11 attacks and have since found no evidence to change that conclusion. Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights” (http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf, pp. 329-30; also see pp. 556-558). In response to this, a spokeswoman for Moore told the Washington Post that “Moore did not intend to suggest that the Bin Ladens flew away while civilian flights were grounded”—which is preposterous given what is plainly said in the film, and also fails to address all of the film’s other false claims on this issue
(No Impropriety Found In Saudis' Exit Flights (washingtonpost.com)

Michael Moore


You need to stay off those left wing kook websites kid.


You need to stay off those

 

[teapartysamurai]

I remember you from before TPS

You basically add nothing to any debate.

But claim that you won.. (won what??)

I rarely do this but I am putting you on ignore.

Bye

Got your ass handed to you so cry like a biatch and place the person on ignore.. Hahahahaha

L O S E R

I guess he figures that is as close as he can get to putting me in a burkah.

Oh the humiliation of it!

He got beat BY A WOMAN!

 

[teapartysamurai]

I remember you from before TPS

You basically add nothing to any debate.

But claim that you won.. (won what??)

I rarely do this but I am putting you on ignore.

Bye

Got your ass handed to you so cry like a biatch and place the person on ignore.. Hahahahaha

L O S E R

Let's see if Sunni-wuss can ignore this!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-f...-woman-hater-got-put-in-the-burkah-again.html

 

[daveman]

I was a Christian for many years before I converted to Islam.

Held Bible studies, preached at churches, held home Bible studies, taught Sunday school, etc.

Basically, know the Bible inside and out; both OT & NT

And I seriously doubt that you have read the Bible cover to cover as many times as I have.

In fact I went to a Synagouge for a couple of years in order to study the Torah and Tanach (O.T.) with the Jews.

So I doubt that you can out debate me on the exegesis of the Bible but your welcome to try

Even Satan can quote Bible verses.

 

[daveman]

Why did Bush allow Saudis to fly in the aftermath of 911?

"House of Bush, House of Saud begins with a simple question: How is it that two days after September 11, 2001, when American air traffic was all but shut down, 140 Saudi citizens, many kin to Osama bin Laden, were permitted to leave the country?

Wrong.

 

[teapartysamurai]

I was a Christian for many years before I converted to Islam.

Held Bible studies, preached at churches, held home Bible studies, taught Sunday school, etc.

Basically, know the Bible inside and out; both OT & NT

And I seriously doubt that you have read the Bible cover to cover as many times as I have.

In fact I went to a Synagouge for a couple of years in order to study the Torah and Tanach (O.T.) with the Jews.

So I doubt that you can out debate me on the exegesis of the Bible but your welcome to try

Even Satan can quote Bible verses.

I've yet to hear SunniMan quote a Bible verse.

 

[daveman]

I was a Christian for many years before I converted to Islam.

Held Bible studies, preached at churches, held home Bible studies, taught Sunday school, etc.

Basically, know the Bible inside and out; both OT & NT

And I seriously doubt that you have read the Bible cover to cover as many times as I have.

In fact I went to a Synagouge for a couple of years in order to study the Torah and Tanach (O.T.) with the Jews.

So I doubt that you can out debate me on the exegesis of the Bible but your welcome to try

Even Satan can quote Bible verses.

I've yet to hear SunniMan quote a Bible verse.

Satan's smarter than he is.

 

[teapartysamurai]

And WHAT DO YOU KNOW!

We have ANOTHER HONOR KILLING.

Guess what! It wasn't by Christians.

I know that just shocks you all!

Beauty queen Katya Koren stoned to death by Muslims for being in pageant

A would-be teen beauty queen was stoned to death after her participation in a Ukranian pageant reportedly infuriated local Muslim youths.

Katya Koren, 19, was targeted by three fellow teens who said her seventh-place finish in the beauty contest was a violation of Muslim laws, according to British newspaper reports.

One of the suspects, identified as 16-year-old Bihal Gaziev, told authorities that he had no regrets about the stoning because the dark-haired Koren "violated the laws of Sharia."

Beauty queen Katya Koren stoned to death by Muslims for being in pageant

Sharia Law, once again!

Still waiting for those scriptures from Sunni Man of Jesus teaching honor killing.

I'll beat him to the punch:

John 8:3-11 (King James Version)



3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

 

[Sunni Man]

This ain't a conspiracy thread. It's an excuse for a anti-semetic bigoted rant.

Some people think that examining some aspects of the so-called Holocaust is anti-semitic.

It was just an historical event and should be treated as such.

Anti-Semitism has no place on this thread.

 

[teapartysamurai]

This ain't a conspiracy thread. It's an excuse for a anti-semetic bigoted rant.

Some people think that examining some aspects of the so-called Holocaust is anti-semitic.

It was just an historical event and should be treated as such.

Anti-Semitism has no place on this thread.

Yeah, being a Holocaust Deniner has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism.

Suuuuuuuuure! We all believe you.

Oh but I forgot! This muslims who once said all American women would be in burkah's can't handle a woman who kicks his ass in a debate.

He put me on ignore!

 

[Sunni Man]

Just like Brzezinski's “The Grand Chessboard” now appears to be a fantastic red herring to bankrupt the United States and create the right pretexts and ripe conditions to present a NAU to its public as the only panacea enroute to the international banksters' world government, is it possible that Zionism too was/is a phantasmic red herring to set the stage for Albert Pike's World War III in order to drive the final nail into the coffin of all nationalism and sovereign nation-states?

The fact that the harbingers of all wars and world government are also the prime supporters of Zionism means little, for just as they were once prime supporters-bankrollers of the USSR and Nazi Socialism before destroying them, the Hegelian Dialectics of conquest require credible enemies, or rather credible opposites to achieve the synthesis of the desired agenda - global communism to be centrally controlled by a hierarchy at whose apex sit the all-seeing eye!

Whole Article LINK: Is Zionism a sophisticated Hegelian Dialectic?

I would have to agree with your thesis.

But the real question is how do we get out of this vicious cycle ?