Is there anything to actually be proud of the USA for?

[evenifigoalone]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Who did that?

Multiple people in this thread told me to leave.

 

[kaz]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Who did that?

Multiple people in this thread told me to leave.

Ahh. Well, I agree with you on that then. I don't tell anyone to leave. There are people I don't understand why they are here when they hate this country so much. But telling them to leave isn't something I've ever said

 

[Correll]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

 

[evenifigoalone]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

 

[Wyatt earp]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Youre a liberal..

Go **** yourself

 

[Correll]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

 

[evenifigoalone]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

You should move. You CLEARLY don't deserve to live in this great nation.

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Anyone who actually has to ask that, doesn't deserve to be here. The US has used it's might for more good than any other world power. If you don't know that, your history class was a waste of time.

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Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Nope. You should just leave. That would make you proud.

Correll Here's a few. There's more, but I put those people on ignore.

 

[Godboy]

There is plenty to be proud of .As for the native American and other ethnic groups how and why they were treated is debatable. Some confuse Hollywood's version of historic events with facts. Be proud of the Constitution that was founded by imperfect humans and the journey this country has been on to the present. It is a great adventure.

the treatment of Native Americans isn't debatable at all. The US has not honored a single treaty with any Native American tribe.

We need to stop denying the truth about the bad deeds of our government and accept responsibility for them so we can hopefully move on .

The indians didnt exactly earn honorable treatment. They slaughtered everyone around them, including other indians.

That did happen, but to say that is descriptive of all Indians is ridiculous. They actually ran the gamut from violent to peaceful. And we sure didn't do much to inspire the peaceful ones

Were the settlers any different? They didnt form up war parties to hunt indians, they just grew crops and hunted for their families. The indians treated the settlers savagely for the most part, with some exceptions.

I have grown tired of the romanticized version of peaceful indians, while demonizing Americans. Our only crime was being culturally superior and winning the war. Yes, we were at war with indians and they lost. Tough shit.

There were peaceful and violent on both sides. And I didn't demonize Americans. What you said wasn't historically accurate

Which part wasnt accurate?

 

[Correll]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Based on the fact that a pissed off conservative suggested you get the **** out. I'm betting that you did say something that deserved such a response.

 

[evenifigoalone]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Based on the fact that a pissed off conservative suggested you get the **** out. I'm betting that you did say something that deserved such a response.

Uhh, they were responding to my OP. But thanks for admitting you haven't actually read my posts after.

 

[bodecea]

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Lots....to add, I would hope we would be PROUD of admitting our mistakes and trying hard to correct them instead of trying to sweep them under the rug.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Lots....to add, I would hope we would be PROUD of admitting our mistakes and trying hard to correct them instead of trying to sweep them under the rug.

Wish that were the case.
But I will freely admit that some have actually answered my original question pretty satisfactorily. I don't believe the US is altogether bad or "was never great" or anything. I'm a centrist, my beliefs are between left and right, a mixture. I'm not so far gone that I believe we have nothing of value in this nation.

 

[bodecea]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Based on the fact that a pissed off conservative suggested you get the **** out. I'm betting that you did say something that deserved such a response.

"a pissed off con-servative".... Are there any other kind of con-servative?

 

[Correll]

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

You should move. You CLEARLY don't deserve to live in this great nation.

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Anyone who actually has to ask that, doesn't deserve to be here. The US has used it's might for more good than any other world power. If you don't know that, your history class was a waste of time.

.

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Nope. You should just leave. That would make you proud.

Correll Here's a few. There's more, but I put those people on ignore.

Works for me thanks. In the first one you admit that you can't think of any reason to be proud of this country.


That is not "slightly criticizing". That is you stating that you dismiss EVERYTHING good that this nation has done and/or is.


I agree. If that is how you feel, why would you want to be a part of people like US?

Surely you would be happier being part of a nice progressive nation like Canada or France.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

You should move. You CLEARLY don't deserve to live in this great nation.

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Anyone who actually has to ask that, doesn't deserve to be here. The US has used it's might for more good than any other world power. If you don't know that, your history class was a waste of time.

.

Genuine question. Seems the US has done a lot of bad stuff, from meddling unasked in foreign affairs to its treatment of indigenous peoples. (Even the very, very conservative curriculum that was used for history class when I was in school acknowledged that we treated native Americans horribly.)
I want to genuinely know, is there anything I can be proud of my country for this independence day? (I'm at least happy that we're not socialist or communist.)

Nope. You should just leave. That would make you proud.

Correll Here's a few. There's more, but I put those people on ignore.

Works for me thanks. In the first one you admit that you can't think of any reason to be proud of this country.


That is not "slightly criticizing". That is you stating that you dismiss EVERYTHING good that this nation has done and/or is.


I agree. If that is how you feel, why would you want to be a part of people like US?

Surely you would be happier being part of a nice progressive nation like Canada or France.

I was asking because I wanted to be reminded of the good, not because I believe there is no good.
I'm a centrist, my beliefs are a mixture of left and right. I was a moderate right winger until a couple years ago, now I'm just a full on centrist who leans very slightly left. My signature contains a brief summary of my political views if you want to know where I stand.

But again, telling people that they need to leave because they don't agree with you is anti-American, anti-free speech, and anti-freedom.

 

[bodecea]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Youre a liberal..

Go **** yourself

So tolerant. Just like a con-servative.

 

[Correll]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Based on the fact that a pissed off conservative suggested you get the **** out. I'm betting that you did say something that deserved such a response.

Uhh, they were responding to my OP. But thanks for admitting you haven't actually read my posts after.

Have you thought of ANYTHING do be proud of this country for yet?

 

[Donald H]

evenifigoalone
Americans lack the ability to understand that 'socially' responsible government isn't socialism or communism.

When the ordinary American people demand a piece of the pie and rout out the ruling wealthy class's hold on the corrupt political system, there won't be a lack of reasons to be proud.

America has great potential.

 

[Correll]

good lord, all you anti-America naysayers are depressing

Obviously anyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American."

Actually, that is anti-American

Agreed, so is wanting everyone who even slightly criticizes the US to leave.

Of course, no one is saying that. THat you had to lie about what people ARE saying, shows that you know you are on the wrong side.

.....have you read this thread? Again. Multiple. People. Have said either that I should pack my bags and leave, or that I don't deserve to live here if I had to ask the question posed in this thread. I will go back and quote posts if I have to.

You lefttards are not "slightly criticizing" the us. YOu are rabid anti-American assholes. With all due respect.

You're making broad sweeping assumptions about me based on, what? I have said nothing like what you are implying. I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Based on the fact that a pissed off conservative suggested you get the **** out. I'm betting that you did say something that deserved such a response.

"a pissed off con-servative".... Are there any other kind of con-servative?

These days? Perhaps not. THe libtards are complete assholes and they seem to be everywhere.