Is there any USMB member who believes all deported Tren de Aragua members be returned to the US?

[Seymour Flops]

They are not 'so call' judge, the are actual judges.... Got that, real fucking judges... They listen to both sides of an issue unlike the posters here who take there story from there local biased news feed...

Were you in court the day this was presented?
Can you tell us your legal qualifications?
Could you give us a brief online of the case before the court?

You have some nerve call Judges 'so call'.... Please answer above first and then we can see are your credentials...

You to be

Convicted felons find it hard to get jobs...

Sorry, but when a judge hides behind a robe in order to be a political activist, yes they should be referred to as a “so-called judge.“

 

[MarathonMike]

The Democrats' latest abuse of the judicial system is "Random Judge Whack A Mole". They just pop up out of nowhere and issue a ruling as directed by the Regime. As they've done for 10 years now the Democrats make a mockery out of the US courts.

 

[beagle9]

First you have to determine if they’re actually illegal, hence hearings are necessary.

If they enter anywhere other than a legal point of entry, then yep oh boy they are indeed illegal.

 

[Kondor3]

If they enter anywhere other than a legal point of entry, then yep oh boy they are indeed illegal.

Generally speaking, that should be able to be done in under sixty minutes, in front of a lay-magistrate or justice-of-the-peace.

The ICE agent(s) bring the "suspect" to such a magistrate, the magistrate does his thing, then non-citizens are returned to ICE.

The ICE agent takes the now-confirmed Illegal Alien to a Deportation Staging Center, with a rubber-stamped Deportation Order.

Pro formal lip-service as Due Process to satisfy the LETTER of The Law as we boot their nasty a$$e$ back to their own countries.

 

[konradv]

If they enter anywhere other than a legal point of entry, then yep oh boy they are indeed illegal.

That’s not the only situation at play. Some were here legally and the administration admits it, but “claims” they can’t do anything about it. Why does El Salvador incarcerate hundreds of Venezuelans? Because we’re paying them. Trump should be no stranger to telling them to do something or he won’t pay. It’s the art of the deal!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Generally speaking, that should be able to be done in under sixty minutes, in front of a lay-magistrate or justice-of-the-peace.

The ICE agent(s) bring the "suspect" to such a magistrate, the magistrate does his thing, then non-citizens are returned to ICE.

The ICE agent takes the now-confirmed Illegal Alien to a Deportation Staging Center, with a rubber-stamped Deportation Order.

Pro formal lip-service as Due Process to satisfy the LETTER of The Law as we boot their nasty a$$e$ back to their own countries.

Yep.

If having a guy in a black robe make that decision instead of a guy in a green border patrol uniform, makes the Supreme Court happy, well let’s keep them happy then.

I have perfect candidates for those new immigration magistrates or justices:

Citizens of those border towns who were the first to be overwhelmed when the Biden ministration started their open border insanity.

Especially some of the mini Bordertown resident who started as legal immigrants and went through the whole process to become citizens. They will Charlie them the fuck out.

 

[konradv]

Generally speaking, that should be able to be done in under sixty minutes, in front of a lay-magistrate or justice-of-the-peace.

The ICE agent(s) bring the "suspect" to such a magistrate, the magistrate does his thing, then non-citizens are returned to ICE.

The ICE agent takes the now-confirmed Illegal Alien to a Deportation Staging Center, with a rubber-stamped Deportation Order.

Pro formal lip-service as Due Process to satisfy the LETTER of The Law as we boot their nasty a$$e$ back to their own countries.

There has to be counsel present and verifiable evidence, not just ‘say sos’.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This is what you call someone going full retard, you don't go full retard

 

[Rawley]

First you have to determine if they’re actually illegal, hence hearings are necessary.

Nope

8 CFR § 235.3 - Inadmissible aliens and expedited removal.

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Rawley]

There has to be counsel present and verifiable evidence, not just ‘say sos’.

Nope

8 CFR § 235.3 - Inadmissible aliens and expedited removal.

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Seymour Flops]

There has to be counsel present and verifiable evidence, not just ‘say sos’.

Nope.

There doesn’t even have to be a hearing.

I don’t know why you Dems are deluding yourself that the Expedited Removal law was instantly repealed when Trump took office.

 

[Kondor3]

There has to be counsel present and verifiable evidence, not just ‘say sos’.

You're right about counsel.

In addition to the pro formal magistrate, either in-person or teleconferenced-in...

They get a pro forma counsel to attend them, either in-person or teleconferenced in...

Still under the sixty minute mark...

 

[Kondor3]

Yep.

If having a guy in a black robe make that decision instead of a guy in a green border patrol uniform, makes the Supreme Court happy, well let’s keep them happy then.

I have perfect candidates for those new immigration magistrates or justices:

Citizens of those border towns who were the first to be overwhelmed when the Biden ministration started their open border insanity.

Especially some of the mini Bordertown resident who started as legal immigrants and went through the whole process to become citizens. They will Charlie them the fuck out.

Now...

Keep in-mind that video teleconferencing opens-up a whole new inventory-stable of magistrates and defense counselors...

That way if Local A or B isn't available, you just conference-in the next available staffer from the nationwide on-call pool...

 

[konradv]

You're right about counsel.

In addition to the pro formal magistrate, either in-person or teleconferenced-in...

They get a pro forma counsel to attend them, either in-person or teleconferenced in...

Still under the sixty minute mark.

If you like fascist justice! When you’re talking about a legal resident, 60 minutes doesn’t cut it.

 

[Kondor3]

If you like fascist justice! When you’re talking about a legal resident, 60 minutes doesn’t cut it.

Purely a matter of opinion.

Illegal Aliens, present upon United States soil without our express prior permission, are being ejected from the our soil.

Minimalist process pro forma will be faithfully provided.

 

[konradv]

Purely a matter of opinion.

Illegal Aliens, present upon United States soil without our express prior permission, are being ejected from the our soil.

Minimalist process pro forma will be faithfully provided.

Judges decide that, not the executive.

 

[Kondor3]

Judges decide that, not the executive.

No... judges decide that Due Process is required... the executive decides the manner in which it is PROVIDED...

 

[konradv]

No... judges decide that Due Process is required... the executive decides the manner in which it is PROVIDED.

In a fascist state perhaps, but we’re a republic with rules that no one person can overturn. It’s funny how MAGA keeps talking about our being a republic, but as soon as they win an election we’re a full-fledged, mob rule democracy for the next four years!

 

[Kondor3]

In a fascist state perhaps, but we’re a republic with rules that no one person can overturn.

Fascism has nothing to do with the American tradition of Constitution -based Separation of Powers.

Just as it is possible for the Executive to overreach, so too is it possible for the Judicial to overreach.

The Judicial decides that Due Process is required.

The Executive decides the Quality of that Due Process and the manner and timing with which it is provided.

Just as "a President is not a King", so too "a Judge is not a President".

The Judiciary is also obliged to "stay in its lane".

 

[konradv]

Fascism has nothing to do with the American tradition of Constitution -based Separation of Powers.

Just as it is possible for the Executive to overreach, so too is it possible for the Judicial to overreach.

The Judicial decides that Due Process is required.

The Executive decides the Quality of that Due Process and the manner and timing with which it is provided.

Just as "a President is not a King", so too "a Judge is not a President".

The Judiciary is also obliged to "stay in its lane".

Judges aren’t being presidents. They’re doing what they’ve always done. It’s the executive that’s turned to authoritarian rule.