Is There ANY Argument That We'd Be Better If Kamala Had Won???

[MarcATL]

By every calculable metric the country would be better off OP.

Trump has managed to damage an improving economy and country in mere months so horribly that it will take decades, and perhaps generations to repair.

That was a no-brainer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

By every calculable metric the country would be better off OP.

Trump has managed to damage an improving economy and country in mere months so horribly that it will take decades, and perhaps generations to repair.

That was a no-brainer.

Economy·Tariffs and trade

Trump is bringing in enough revenue from tariffs to cut deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade, CBO says​

By Nick LichtenbergFortune Intelligence Editor

August 25, 2025 at 11:22 AM EDT

Trump is bringing in enough revenue from tariffs to cut deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade, CBO says | Fortune

In just two months, Trump added another $1.5 trillion of deficit reduction in the form of new tariffs, CBO said. Still, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act will raise deficits by $3.4 trillion.

fortune.com

I'm pretty sure that " it will take decades, and perhaps generations to repair" refers to your education.

You should begin immediately.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Was Kamala Harris’ Book 'Pulled' For 30% Plagiarism? Fact-Checking Viral Claim​

Authored by:Naman Trivedi
Updated Jun 2, 2025, 02:04 IST
A viral post falsely claimed Kamala Harris’ book was "pulled" due to 30% plagiarism. Her 2009 book Smart on Crime, previously accused of plagiarism, remains available on Amazon along with her other titles. Allegations surfaced in 2024, with 27 instances cited by experts, though the book is still on sale.

Was Kamala Harris’ Book 'Pulled' For 30% Plagiarism? Fact-Checking Viral Claim

A viral post falsely claimed Kamala Harris’ book was "pulled" due to 30% plagiarism. Her 2009 book Smart on Crime, previously accused of plagiarism, remains available on Amazon along with her other titles. Allegations surfaced in 2024, with 27 instances cited by experts, though the book is still...

www.timesnownews.com

 

[fncceo]

Tel Aviv would likely be a glowing, smoking crater in the ground.

There are Democrats here who would see that as a good thing.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The problem is you don't really understand what you're talking about.

Start with a personal attack, good.

The bill would have sped up asylum processing and legislated more strict requirements for asylum.

What Is the 'Bipartisan Border Bill' and How Would It Change the US Immigration System? - American Immigration Council

The “bipartisan border bill” has been front and center in the election, but it is often presented without clarity on what it would do.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

According to the extremely pro-illegal immigration "American Immigration Council."

From your link:

• This new expulsion authority would be triggered when border encounters reach set levels. When daily levels reach 4,000 over a 7-day average, the president and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have the discretion to exercise this new expulsion authority. But when encounters reach 5,000 over a 7-day average, or 8,500 on any single day, the president would be required to use this expulsion authority.

Five. Thousand. Per. Day.

Which is a misunderstanding anyway. It was 8,500 per day. The misunderstood "five thousand per day" figure is explained here.

No, the bipartisan border bill did not allow 5,000 immigrants per day; it established a threshold for expelling immigrants if the average number of daily "encounters" (crossings or other interactions with border patrol) reached 5,000 over a 7-day period or 8,500 in a single day. The bill included provisions to shut down most unauthorized crossings and rapidly expel migrants when these thresholds were met, rather than allowing them to enter.

The bipartisan border deal would not allow 5,000 illegal crossings per day, despite what Trump says

What's become a popular talking point among conservative Republicans opposed to an emerging immigration bill is incorrect. Here's what it would do.

www.nbcnews.com

But who would have been reporting the numbers, and enforcing the closure? Why the Biden-Harris administration! They already said the border was secure. Mayorkas repeated that the border was secure over and over under oath. SO 8500 in a single day would trigger . . . business as usual.

As for as limits, the fact is that ANY limitations are more strict than the ZERO limitations that existed then and still exist today.

ZERO limits? On paper, the legal limit for illegal border crossing is zero. Trump has not achieved that yet, but he is far closer than Biden-Harris ever got, without a bill to allow 8,500 per day to get assylum.

Now we have limits. Border encounters with illegals is down to a handful a day. Trump did that Just by following existing law, not by claiming that somehow allowing five thousand a day will prevent any others from coming in.

"Five thousand? Okay, sure. But absolutly NOT five thousand and one, that goes too far!" In the words of Peter Strzok, "We'll STOP it!"

Really?

Trump has limited illegal immigration by

kicking out illegal immigrants

as the law requires. That is helping every American who does not want to be victimized by criminals illegally in the country, every low-skilled American who wants an entry-level job but is not legally allowed to work for less than minimum wage, and it certainly helps non-Americans who do not want to be endentured servants to the Cartels, and non-American children who will not be sold into labor or sexual slavery by the Cartels.
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The bill was subject to misinformation and propaganda from Trump and his minions who are very good at doing so.

And end with a personal attack. You don't disappoint.

Well, yes you do.

See, you did not used to be that way, Marener. You were better than this. Maybe you should go dormant for a while longer as you did right after the election.

Yes, the incredibly poor from other countries are not able to walz across our border and work for two bucks and hour in dangerous conditions for bosses who cannot be held accountable for abuses.

Didn't Democrats and "not Democrats" use to oppose the poor working for sub-minimum wage in dangerous conditions for unaccountable bosses?

Why are you championing it now?

Maybe Trump will finally do something that could arguably make reasonable person wish the Biden crime family was in charge again, or DEI Debbie, his hapless VP.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I've never heard Mamdani propose abolishing private property. Can you provide a source for this claim?

AI Overview


Democratic New York City mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani has faced significant criticism regarding his stance on private property
. A resurfaced video from 2025 showed him voicing support for the "abolition of private property" to address the housing crisis.
The resurfaced video and Mamdani's defense

• The comments: In the video, Mamdani states that a system that guarantees housing for all, "even if it meant abolishing private property," would be better than the current situation, which leaves many unhoused. He emphasized his focus on housing people rather than engaging in "gotcha games" over his political theory.
• Widespread criticism: The clip drew strong backlash from conservatives, who labeled Mamdani a "communist" and criticized his views as "dangerous and un-American". Some critics suggested that his policy proposals were akin to a Marxist agenda.
• Mamdani's perspective: Mamdani has pushed back on the "communist" label, framing his views as a compassionate approach to solving the housing crisis rather than an ideological one. An expert in comparative politics, Oxana Shevel of Tufts University, noted that many of his proposals exist in other Western democracies and do not constitute communism.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/what-purpose-do-they-serve-zohran-mamdani-on-private-property-in-old-clip-8899408#:~:text=Zohran%20Mamdani%2C%20the%20Democratic%20mayoral,(@kellyannwashbu1)%20July%2017%2C%202025

 

[Seymour Flops]

By every calculable metric the country would be better off OP.

Let's start with illegal border crossing as a calculable metric.

They first dropped in early 2024 after Mexican officials expanded efforts to stop migrants from reaching the U.S. border and then fell further in the summer following former President Biden's move to sharply restrict access to the asylum system.

But the reduction in illegal immigration has been precipitous since Mr. Trump's inauguration.

In January, Border Patrol agents at the Mexican border recorded 29,000 apprehensions, down 38% from 47,000 in December. The drop from January to February was even more pronounced, amounting to a roughly 70% decrease.

Amid Trump crackdown, illegal border crossings plunge to levels not seen in decades

Over the past 25 years, the only time monthly apprehensions came close to the level recorded in February was in April 2017.

www.cbsnews.com

You go on record as saying you would rather have illegal border crossing brought back up to Biden-Harris levels?

 

[PoliticalChic]

" CNN's Harry Enten recently used a poll conducted by the University of Massachusetts-Amherst in April to show that "very few” Trump voters “regret what they did back in 2024." In that poll, when asked directly if they regretted their vote, just 4% of self-described Trump voters say they would have voted for someone else or not at all, with 93% saying they feel confident about their vote.

Based on those numbers, Enten argues:

“So if there was a repeat, if folks got to be able to redo their vote that they had back in 2024, would the result be any different? I doubt it would be. I doubt it would be or it would still be extremely close. The bottom line is for all this talk of Trump voters regretting their vote, in the numbers, it really just doesn’t show up.”

Do any Trump voters regret their choice?

It's a hard question to answer. Our poll suggests many do.

www.gelliottmorris.com

Whether it would be a close on, the actual election was a landslde for America, and Trump.

 

[jknowgood]

2024 was a very strong year from an economic perspective. GDP growth was 2.8%. About 2 million jobs created. Inflation falling consistently below 3%. Interest rates decreasing.

Things are much more shaky this year.

Lol, about a million of those jobs were retracted.

 

[jknowgood]

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.

Integrity. Honesty. Justice.

He has none of these qualities.

I guess you're one of the loons that went with Obama, on transforming America?

 

[candycorn]

Economic growth would almost undoubtedly be higher. The job market would almost certainly be better. Inflation would most likely be lower.

Gas prices might be a little higher.

We wouldn’t have martial law like we do now. So yes, things would have been much better under Harris than they are under Trump.

 

[fncceo]

We wouldn’t have martial law like we do now

I’m not under martial law… guess it sucks to be you.

 

[Mac1958]

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.
Integrity. Honesty. Justice.
He has none of these qualities.

Yep. What I know for sure is that he has brought out the worst in pretty much all of us. It has destroyed families, relationships, marriages. It has destroyed our longstanding relationships around the world. It has turned us into an ugly, predatory, transactional country. It has made American Christians make a mockery of their religion.

There are certainly many benefits to being in a Mafia family. But you're still in a Mafia family. For Americans across the political spectrum, including those of us who have agreements with the Right, it's not worth what has happened to us. And I have no doubt this was not what the Founders had in mind. They would be ashamed for us.

 

[GWV5903]

2024 was a very strong year from an economic perspective. GDP growth was 2.8%. About 2 million jobs created. Inflation falling consistently below 3%. Interest rates decreasing.

Things are much more shaky this year.

Only in that area between your ears

 

[Blisterfinger]

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.

Integrity. Honesty. Justice.

He has none of these qualities.

Integrity honesty Justice. Those ARE Trump qualities. You should aspire to that yourself. You could add work ethic to that, something you left Wingers certainly need more of.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I don't think kicking out illegal immigrants who are just here to work is helping anyone.

And you'd be wrong.

 

[Lisa558]

" CNN's Harry Enten recently used a poll conducted by the University of Massachusetts-Amherst in April to show that "very few” Trump voters “regret what they did back in 2024." In that poll, when asked directly if they regretted their vote, just 4% of self-described Trump voters say they would have voted for someone else or not at all, with 93% saying they feel confident about their vote.

Based on those numbers, Enten argues:

Do any Trump voters regret their choice?

It's a hard question to answer. Our poll suggests many do.

www.gelliottmorris.com

Whether it would be a close on, the actual election was a landslde for America, and Trump.

Leftists, due to their arrogance and ignorance, take comfort from the false belief that Trump voters regret their vote.

I know nobody who does. In fact, we are all amazed by how quickly Trump has engaged, and on so many fronts. In the face of the media lies and despite Democrat opposition, he has secured the border….deported nearly 200,000 illegals….stopped Iran from getting nukes….forced colleges to stop supporting anti-Jew activities….dismantled the racist DEI program throughout the government….got the work-from-home government leeches back to the office….cracked down on crime in our nation’s Capitol….kept the tax cuts for the middle class in place….gave an additional tax break to moderate-income seniors and working class people….the list goes on and on.

And the leftists are really trying to convince themselves that Trump voters regret their vote?! I thank GD that he won, and so do all my friends and family.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't think kicking out illegal immigrants who are just here to work is helping anyone. Certainly sending them to foreign prisons without human rights damages the integrity of our country.

The damage to Iranian nuclear facilities is not clear and never going to be a permanent solution. Obama did a far better job at managing the Iranian nuclear weapon program. Firing the head of the agency that said the strike wasn't that effective shows that this government is not interested in integrity.

Taking health care away from poor people doesn't really help me any. It just makes the healthcare system that much more fragile.

Economically we are doing worse.

Reputationally we are doing worse.

Spiritually we are doing worse.

This is the enshittification of the United States.

You don’t think “kicking out illegal immigrants who are here just to work” is helping anyone?!

They are helping the working class citizens in the areas where the illegals settle. The caliber of public schools goes down. The house values in their modest ranch houses are suppressed due to the poorly rated school district. The prices of rents in poor apartment complexes goes up due to added demand.

Why do you libs always care more about the interests of foreigners who came in illegally over honest American citizens? Don’t you know it’s a major reason you lost?

 

[struth]

Economic growth would almost undoubtedly be higher. The job market would almost certainly be better. Inflation would most likely be lower.

Gas prices might be a little higher.

Harris plan was to continue the xiden’s admin policies of making the majority of the country worse off

So, where are you getting your info?