Is There ANY Argument That We'd Be Better If Kamala Had Won???

[Marener]

Thank you for the admission.

You are the anti-American that we voted against.

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.

Integrity. Honesty. Justice.

He has none of these qualities.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Out of those 2 million jobs added, 40k were federal employees.

Sometimes you do need government employees. I wish my DMV had twice as many people working there. I like being able to go to a national park and have clean facilities. I want NIH training new researchers.

Did you know you can voluntariy send in extra taxes to pay for those excess workers?

Or don't you care to put your money where your mouth is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Immediately after the election, a handful of socks were activated to do nothing but make nonsensical anti trump posts. the Democrats who had been willing to seriously debate suddenly weere not showing their faces, so to speak on this board.

It's sad to say that many of us were willing to engage these obvious trolls, because there was nobody else to debate.

Now some of these serious debaters are back, but unfortunately, the serious debate is not.

One cannot argue that we would have been better off with kamala using facts or logic. i give some credit for Marener for trying. That is one of the former serious debaters that were awol during the month or so right after the election.

He or she tries. But as another poster pointed out, any attempt to claim, we'd be better off with more of the Biden-Harris Administration cannot pass the giggle test.

Just for a single example, five thousand plus new illegal aliens given asylum per day. in exchange for what? For more border patrol agents to "process" the asylum seekers. Yes, never forget that that was a serious proposal yhat was even supported by some RINO republicans.

That was democrats and "not democrats'" idea of border security.

" the Democrats who had been willing to seriously debate suddenly weere not showing their faces, so to speak on this board."

I found the same.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem is you don't really understand what you're talking about.

The bill would have sped up asylum processing and legislated more strict requirements for asylum.

What Is the 'Bipartisan Border Bill' and How Would It Change the US Immigration System? - American Immigration Council

The “bipartisan border bill” has been front and center in the election, but it is often presented without clarity on what it would do.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

As for as limits, the fact is that ANY limitations are more strict than the ZERO limitations that existed then and still exist today.

The bill was subject to misinformation and propaganda from Trump and his minions who are very good at doing so.

How many illegal assylum seekers have you welcomed into your home?


Or is this post one more example of not putting your money where your mouth is?

 

[Marener]

Did you know you can voluntariy send in extra taxes to pay for those excess workers?

Or don't you care to put your money where your mouth is.

I can't force the government to hire more workers.

Do you actually think before you post this nonsense?

 

[Marener]

How many illegal assylum seekers have you welcomed into your home?


Or is this post one more example of not putting your money where your mouth is?

Why would I need to welcome them into my home? They can stay with family and get jobs.

 

[Marener]

" the Democrats who had been willing to seriously debate suddenly weere not showing their faces, so to speak on this board."

I found the same.

The problem is that there's few if any Trump supporters willing to have an honest debate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

None of that is true.

Trump is taking control of private industry and you're worried about Mamdani opening a few grocery stores. Seems like you are not thinking logically.

I never post anything that isn't true.



1. The French Revolution, which gave rise to the Russian Revolution, and that of Mao. Rousseau believed private property was the cause of the corruption of the human character, and private property should be abolished, and ending it would purify humanity. He believed that any who disagreed with the general will should be treated like a wild beast (killed). Government used terror as a policy.


2. A half-century before Karl Marx published the Communist Manifesto, there was Gracchus Babeuf’s Plebeian Manifesto, which was later renamed the Manifesto of the Equals. Babeuf’s early (1796) work has been described as socialist, anarchist, and communist, and has had an enormous impact. He wrote: “The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, on which will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last…We reach for something more sublime and more just: the common good or the community of goods! Nor more individual property in land: the land belongs to no one. We demand, we want, the common enjoyment of the fruits of the land: the fruits belong to all.” Here, then, are the major themes of socialist theory. It takes very little interpolation to find that opponents profit at the expense of the environment, and conditions of inequality in society."


3. "Karl Marx<a href="Karl Marx - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>a<span>]</span></a> (German: [ˈkaʁl ˈmaʁks]; 5 May 1818 – 14 March 1883) was a German philosopher, political theorist, economist, journalist, and revolutionary socialist. He is best-known for the 1848 pamphlet The Communist Manifesto (written with Friedrich Engels), and his three-volume Das Kapital (1867–1894), a critique of classical political economy which employs his theory of historical materialism in an analysis of capitalism, in the culmination of his life's work." Wikipedia
Marx inspired both Hitler and Lenin

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.(Article provided in the documentary "The Soviet Story")


4. Lenin, Hitler, Stallin, Mao, Pol Pot Castro, etc.



5. Democrat mayoralty candidate for NYC, Mamdani, supported and endorsed by major Democrat officials.
The Mamdani Democrat party stands for abolishing private property, socialist/communist, anti-Semitism, and racism.
And a Dem Senator said this should be the direction of the party.




This is your party, from then to now.

 

[Marener]

This is your party, from then to now.

I've never heard Mamdani propose abolishing private property. Can you provide a source for this claim?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.

Integrity. Honesty. Justice.

He has none of these qualities.

My most important reason for voting fot Trump is that he values American traditions, and the Constitution.

You side favors censorship, cancel culture, and other Fascist measures.





Now, about your voting against free speech and the Constitution........explain it.




The Constituion is America.

The Democrats dispute it.


The contemporary Right is a supporter of religion, while the left abjors both the Constitution and religion.

What possible justification could there be for the Democrats silencing those who speak out against evil?????

Unless evil is what the Democrats represent.




Democrats put an anti-free speech advocate on the Supreme Court, and passed a law forbidding free speech:
. Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors 2of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????

“The 1954 federal Johnson Amendment prohibits a pastor from talking about candidates from the pulpit in light of Scripture. Thus, based on what a pastor says about an election from the pulpit, the tax code allows the government to tax a church. Consider that in light of the Internal Revenue Service's increasingly vague regulations, and you have a recipe for the censorship of religion. The IRS, through those vague regulations, reserves for itself tremendous discretion and power to decide which churches to punish for violations of the Johnson Amendment and which not to punish.”
Why don't churches pay taxes?


Any reading of the first amendment will prove this to be unconstitutional.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



The contrast is startlingly clear: the Right supports both religion and the Constitution.

"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020

 

[PoliticalChic]

I can't force the government to hire more workers.

Do you actually think before you post this nonsense?

That's your excuse for not sending in more money, you fraud?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why would I need to welcome them into my home? They can stay with family and get jobs.

I believe everyone can see what a buffoon you are.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem is that there's few if any Trump supporters willing to have an honest debate.

I just did and I eviscerated you.

 

[Marener]

I believe everyone can see what a buffoon you are.

This is what I mean about not finding someone to have an honest debate. You simply slip into childish name calling.

 

[Marener]

I just did and I eviscerated you.

I don't think so. You can't keep a single topic or train of thought and swing wildly from one accusation to another. It started by talking about economic factors and now you're going on about totally unrelated things.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I've never heard Mamdani propose abolishing private property. Can you provide a source for this claim?

I never post anything I can't document.



Metro

Socialist Zohran Mamdani called for ‘abolition of private property,’ resurfaced video shows​

By
Carl Campanile
Published July 17, 2025, 6:23 p.m. ET

Socialist Zohran Mamdani called for ‘abolition of private property,’ resurfaced video shows

The Republican National Committee ridiculed New York City socialist Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani, posting a resurfaced video of him supporting “the abolition of private property.…

nypost.com

So I obliterated you yet again, huh?

 

[22lcidw]

None of that is true.

Trump is taking control of private industry and you're worried about Mamdani opening a few grocery stores. Seems like you are not thinking logically.

Those stores at best will only be as good as the people around them.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't think so. You can't keep a single topic or train of thought and swing wildly from one accusation to another. It started by talking about economic factors and now you're going on about totally unrelated things.

This is the OP to which you voluntariy subscribed, you dunce.


1. What I am saying is that I sort of miss the insane arguments and claims posed by Democrats prior to the election, a bit of confrontation to make the blood boil......it's gone.

2. Mayor Bowser has admitted the improvemnt in safety in D.C.

3. There is no recession on the horizon.

4. Have you seen gas prices?

5.Name the issue and the Trump Administration is pitching a no-hitter against the Democrats, and not only does the party know it, but the lack of and the sort of posts we saw from Democrats before the election have disappeared.




The atmosphere here was more engaging when there was engaging when there was any actual doubt as to who was right.




And, as you found, I prove everything I post.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Those stores at best will only be as good as the people around them.

It has been tried in every socialst venue.....same results

AI Overview

You can find numerous images of empty Venezuelan grocery stores from news archives, stock photo sites, and news articles detailing the economic crisis and food shortages that have affected the country. These pictures often show rows of empty shelves, empty refrigerator sections, and customers looking for limited supplies in supermarkets in Caracas and other cities.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think Trump is anti-American. He certainly stands in opposition to the ideals that made this country great.

Integrity. Honesty. Justice.

He has none of these qualities.

"But here’s the thing: none of what’s happening right now is a surprise. Not one iota. In fact, it’s exactly what the voters — you know, the people in that pesky little thing called a constitutional republic — elected him to do.

Tariffs? Promised.

Deportations? Promised.

Tax relief? Promised.

Law enforcement actually enforcing laws? Promised.

Booting gender ideology out of schools? Promised.

Supporting the military, telling Iran to sit down and shut up, standing by our allies, creating a fair playing field for American products, rooting out corruption — all promised.

That’s not authoritarianism. That’s called “keeping your campaign promises.”
Townhall.com