Is there an end game to all the illegal firings?

[pknopp]

Let's try this.

Give an example of President Trump being racist.

Hiring Musk.

 

[Billiejeens]

Hiring Musk.

That makes no sense.

 

[pknopp]

That makes no sense.

To you obviously it does not.

 

[Billiejeens]

To you obviously it does not.

You can
Or you can not explain it?

 

[pknopp]

You can
Or you can not explain it?

There is a couple threads on it already.

Sending an unmistakable message.

 

[Contumacious]

Here's another to add to the growing list.

Democratic FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub says Trump fired her. She says it's not legal.​

Ellen Weintraub, the current Federal Election Commission Chair and one of three Democratic members on the committee, posted a letter on X Thursday night from President Trump that says she has been removed as an FEC member.

The brief letter, dated January 31, 2025, reads, "You are hereby removed as a Member of the Federal Election Commission."

On Thursday night, Weintraub alleged her firing was not legal.

"There's a legal way to replace FEC commissioners-this isn't it," she wrote in her social media post. "I've been lucky to serve the American people & stir up some good trouble along the way. That's not changing anytime soon."

Democratic FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub says Trump fired her. She says it's not legal.

Weintraub, one of three Democratic members on the Federal Election Commission, posted a letter from Trump terminating her.

www.cbsnews.com

I just watched her be interviewed about the "firing." She notes the legal way to remove a FEC board member is to replace him or her after their term has expired. In its 50 year history no prez has tried to illegally fired a board member as trump has.

Weintraub's is not the only example of a government official being illegally fired. The list is actually quite long. In most instances they aren't really close calls. The legislative acts creating the agencies established the ways in which members cab be removed. trump is not following those procedures.

So, the end game is..........? I would say trump is attempting to take over all government functions by installing loyalists in all the key positions, while removing anyone who might object to his agenda. The FEC is primarily the agency monitoring campaign contributions. The motivation for having friendly board members seems clear enough. Its mandate calls for the 6 member board to have 3 Repubs and 3 Dems with a D and R rotating as chairman each year. It's designed to be apolitical and therefore is antithetical to Don's desire to politicize everything. Should he get away with it just because he won an election?

The Constitutional Head of the EXECUTIVE BRANCH has terminated her employment.

SCOTUS has spolen - The Separation of Powers Doctrine prevent Congress from Amending Article II


'nuff said

 

[Billiejeens]

There is a couple threads on it already.

Sending an unmistakable message.

So, you can't.

 

[hondo 50]

End game. Eliminate fat fucks and leeches.

 

[Mac1958]

So, the end game is..........? I would say trump is attempting to take over all government functions by installing loyalists in all the key positions, while removing anyone who might object to his agenda.

Yes. I don't think that can even be denied at this point.

The ideal appears to be either (a) the position is filled by an obedient loyalist, or (b) the position is eliminated in the name of "smaller government".

We continue to learn more and more about European history every single day, don't we?

 

[berg80]

Illegal, lol. Your premise is already off the rails. Just because they paused it, does not make it ILLEGAL, it makes it under review.

What makes it illegal is trump not following the explicit language in the statutes establishing the existence of agencies like the FEC. Language that details the procedures available for the legal replacement of board members. The ones trump ignored.

It can't be a coincidence that the admin has violated so many laws in firing so many people. It appears to me to be an intentional attempt to get the courts to throw out protections for these government employees in favor of giving him unprecedented, unilateral power to remove them.

Which makes sense since the organizing principle behind trump 2.0, and P2025, is to amass autocratic power over the government for the executive branch.

 

[irosie91]

What makes it illegal is trump not following the explicit language in the statutes establishing the existence of agencies like the FEC. Language that details the procedures available for the legal replacement of board members. The ones trump ignored.

It can't be a coincidence that the admin has violated so many laws in firing so many people. It appears to me to be an intentional attempt to get the courts to throw out protections for these government employees in favor of giving him unprecedented, unilateral power to remove them.

Which makes sense since the organizing principle behind trump 2.0, and P2025, is to amass autocratic power over the government for the executive branch.

Trump is desperate to FIX the economy as his contribution to mankind and his bid for CANONIZATION ----IMHO

 

[Godboy]

Here's another to add to the growing list.

Democratic FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub says Trump fired her. She says it's not legal.​

Ellen Weintraub, the current Federal Election Commission Chair and one of three Democratic members on the committee, posted a letter on X Thursday night from President Trump that says she has been removed as an FEC member.

The brief letter, dated January 31, 2025, reads, "You are hereby removed as a Member of the Federal Election Commission."

On Thursday night, Weintraub alleged her firing was not legal.

"There's a legal way to replace FEC commissioners-this isn't it," she wrote in her social media post. "I've been lucky to serve the American people & stir up some good trouble along the way. That's not changing anytime soon."

Democratic FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub says Trump fired her. She says it's not legal.

Weintraub, one of three Democratic members on the Federal Election Commission, posted a letter from Trump terminating her.

www.cbsnews.com

I just watched her be interviewed about the "firing." She notes the legal way to remove a FEC board member is to replace him or her after their term has expired. In its 50 year history no prez has tried to illegally fired a board member as trump has.

Weintraub's is not the only example of a government official being illegally fired. The list is actually quite long. In most instances they aren't really close calls. The legislative acts creating the agencies established the ways in which members cab be removed. trump is not following those procedures.

So, the end game is..........? I would say trump is attempting to take over all government functions by installing loyalists in all the key positions, while removing anyone who might object to his agenda. The FEC is primarily the agency monitoring campaign contributions. The motivation for having friendly board members seems clear enough. Its mandate calls for the 6 member board to have 3 Repubs and 3 Dems with a D and R rotating as chairman each year. It's designed to be apolitical and therefore is antithetical to Don's desire to politicize everything. Should he get away with it just because he won an election?

This it what happens when a political party uses lawfare against its opposition for a decade. Federal employees are not supposed to rebel against the POTUS. Now many THOUSANDS will be fired all over the country.

We do not care that you dont like it and calling it "illegal" isnt going to stop us. Its game over for Trump haters in the federal government.

 

[irosie91]

This it what happens when a political party uses lawfare against its opposition for a decade. Federal employees are not supposed to rebel against the POTUS. Now many THOUSANDS will be fired all over the country.

We do not care that you dont like it and calling it "illegal" isnt going to stop us. Its game over for Trump haters in the federal government.

well----lets not get overly enthusiastic----it's rude

 

[berg80]

Yes. I don't think that can even be denied at this point.

The ideal appears to be either (a) the position is filled by an obedient loyalist, or (b) the position is eliminated in the name of "smaller government".

We continue to learn more and more about European history every single day, don't we?

The least surprising aspect of the purge is the rubes falling for the "we are doing this to reduce spending" canard. The shiny objects the WH has pointed to in order to animate the minions..........many of which are lies.............

The White House’s wildly inaccurate claims about USAID spending​

Eleven out of 12 claims about the agency’s work are misleading, wrong or lack context.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/usaid-trump-fact-checker/

..........are so insignificant as to be an unserious effort at meaningful cost cutting. The dual goals actually being the expansion of executive authority and the elimination of people or programs the team of extremist bureaucrats Dotard has assembled, or Dotard himself, doesn't like.

 

[Godboy]

We should cut the budget by cutting all the benefits the politicians in Washington get, but I bet they ask for more not less, even the MAGATs.

Democrat politicians disagree with you. They literally just tried to give themselves a 40% pay raise, despite not balancing the budget for 20 years.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The least surprising aspect of the purge is the rubes falling for the "we are doing this to reduce spending" canard. The shiny objects the WH has pointed to in order to animate the minions..........many of which are lies.............

The White House’s wildly inaccurate claims about USAID spending​

Eleven out of 12 claims about the agency’s work are misleading, wrong or lack context.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/usaid-trump-fact-checker/

..........are so insignificant as to be an unserious effort at meaningful cost cutting. The dual goals actually being the expansion of executive authority and the elimination of people or programs the team of extremist bureaucrats Dotard has assembled, or Dotard himself, doesn't like.

Spinning
Whirling
Still descending
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[irosie91]

The least surprising aspect of the purge is the rubes falling for the "we are doing this to reduce spending" canard. The shiny objects the WH has pointed to in order to animate the minions..........many of which are lies.............

The White House’s wildly inaccurate claims about USAID spending​

Eleven out of 12 claims about the agency’s work are misleading, wrong or lack context.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/usaid-trump-fact-checker/

..........are so insignificant as to be an unserious effort at meaningful cost cutting. The dual goals actually being the expansion of executive authority and the elimination of people or programs the team of extremist bureaucrats Dotard has assembled, or Dotard himself, doesn't like.

I believe-----a COMBINATION of all of the above

 

[berg80]

This it what happens when a political party uses lawfare against its opposition for a decade.

The word "lawfare" is invoked so frequently by you nitwits it's clear it's become the equivalent of a mindless meme. Another way trump and his right wing media enablers have obfuscated a simple truth. trump broke the law and therefore was prosecuted.

It may appear like lawfare because he broke so many laws in so many jurisdictions. His defense being to position himself as a victim when in fact he is the perpetrator of crimes against the people of the US.

 

[berg80]

Democrat politicians disagree with you. They literally just tried to give themselves a 40% pay raise, despite not balancing the budget for 20 years.

Link please.

 

[Mac1958]

The least surprising aspect of the purge is the rubes falling for the "we are doing this to reduce spending" canard. The shiny objects the WH has pointed to in order to animate the minions..........many of which are lies.............

The White House’s wildly inaccurate claims about USAID spending​

Eleven out of 12 claims about the agency’s work are misleading, wrong or lack context.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/usaid-trump-fact-checker/

..........are so insignificant as to be an unserious effort at meaningful cost cutting. The dual goals actually being the expansion of executive authority and the elimination of people or programs the team of extremist bureaucrats Dotard has assembled, or Dotard himself, doesn't like.

A couple of weeks ago I couldn't have told you anything about USAID as an organization.

If Trump knows one thing, it's showbiz. He can get the flock all a-flutter with little projects like this. In order for him to make a real dent, he has to go after the BIG costs. I think he knows he can't gut Medicare/Medicaid or Social Security. And so do congressional Republicans.

He'll get his loyalists in, and that's all he cares about. He lacks the maturity or self esteem to handle any discouraging words.