Is the use of Deadly Force to protect property the solution to riots?

[keepitreal]

I’d rather that a posse of thousands follow every one of these brats home and start riots in their neighborhoods.

No, give them a good ass beating and arrest their parents

 

[freyasman]

Has anyone considered something like this?
Rioters are observed by multiple cameras and many of them can be identified...… the ones who get arrested are obviously identified. What if, once they are ID'ed, they are cited and that results in them being barred from any sort of government assistance? No EBT, no SNAP, no unemployment?
What if any outstanding debts of their's are called in as a result, such as student loans?
What if they are barred from getting a line of credit with any store or corporate entity, because why should those companies whose interests have been damaged and storefronts looted, extend credit to a rioter or looter?
What if they can't get an apartment in a decent neighborhood because it shows up on their background check that they like to burn property down? We don't like sex offenders in our neighborhoods, maybe we should keep these guys out too.
Just because some DAs are not willing to prosecute these folks doesn't mean there is no way to punish this behavior...… there is a lot of other stuff that the rest of us can do.







Maybe there are other ways to deal with these people than just putting bullets in them.

 

[wamose]

If they're not going to let people shoot rioters who destroy their property, they should at least let them burn rioters cars and houses.

 

[JWBooth]

Rooftop Koreans lead the way.

 

[CowboyTed]

This thread needs to be somewhere else....

It is just encouraging outright gun battles on the streets. When the cops show up who do they shoot at?

Lets just say that the Einsteins on this thread might not solve riots...

So lets say a peaceful protest is going on... Someone from the crowd throws a rock through a window. are you going to gun down the whole crowd?

Why not do what European Cops do? Seems far more effective and they have far less damage...

 

[Mytwocents]

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Has anyone considered something like this?
Rioters are observed by multiple cameras and many of them can be identified...… the ones who get arrested are obviously identified. What if, once they are ID'ed, they are cited and that results in them being barred from any sort of government assistance? No EBT, no SNAP, no unemployment?
What if any outstanding debts of their's are called in as a result, such as student loans?
What if they are barred from getting a line of credit with any store or corporate entity, because why should those companies whose interests have been damaged and storefronts looted, extend credit to a rioter or looter?
What if they can't get an apartment in a decent neighborhood because it shows up on their background check that they like to burn property down? We don't like sex offenders in our neighborhoods, maybe we should keep these guys out too.
Just because some DAs are not willing to prosecute these folks doesn't mean there is no way to punish this behavior...… there is a lot of other stuff that the rest of us can do.







Maybe there are other ways to deal with these people than just putting bullets in them.

It shouldn't have gotten to this point. Most of the ones rioting, are punk-ass kids, as in college age kids, who have had their daycare gates opened up and pretty much have been told that there will be no consequences for their actions . So, yeah! This is the lottery to them, to deal with their "angst " and all their other "feelings", instead of an ass whippin. (Yeah, btw, I bet I can look up the "how to discipline your child " docs, over the last few decades, and I bet when most of them came up with that rhetoric, ALAS! no kids!...experts my ass)....so, city officials? Twiddling their thumbs (more like, thumb up each other's buttholes).....but, no free pass to the "kids" either...

 

[Kondor3]

In the interim, the answer is for businesses to abandon the cities, and move out to the suburbs.

Let the inner-city Neanderthals sweat - and think - while their vendors and conveniences disappear.

Barring that... Federal legislation allowing business owners to use lethal force to defend their businesses might be an idea whose time has come.

They say the Devil is in the details, and there would be several key points to hammer-out, but the idea probably deserves a serious look in DC.

 

[2aguy]

The gun control debate is over forever.

No, actually, it isn't...the democrat party doesn't care about new Left Wing gun owners, and those new Left Wing gun owners will still vote for the democrat party....and any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...

 

[freyasman]

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Has anyone considered something like this?
Rioters are observed by multiple cameras and many of them can be identified...… the ones who get arrested are obviously identified. What if, once they are ID'ed, they are cited and that results in them being barred from any sort of government assistance? No EBT, no SNAP, no unemployment?
What if any outstanding debts of their's are called in as a result, such as student loans?
What if they are barred from getting a line of credit with any store or corporate entity, because why should those companies whose interests have been damaged and storefronts looted, extend credit to a rioter or looter?
What if they can't get an apartment in a decent neighborhood because it shows up on their background check that they like to burn property down? We don't like sex offenders in our neighborhoods, maybe we should keep these guys out too.
Just because some DAs are not willing to prosecute these folks doesn't mean there is no way to punish this behavior...… there is a lot of other stuff that the rest of us can do.







Maybe there are other ways to deal with these people than just putting bullets in them.

It shouldn't have gotten to this point. Most of the ones rioting, are punk-ass kids, as in college age kids, who have had their daycare gates opened up and pretty much have been told that there will be no consequences for their actions . So, yeah! This is the lottery to them, to deal with their "angst " and all their other "feelings", instead of an ass whippin. (Yeah, btw, I bet I can look up the "how to discipline your child " docs, over the last few decades, and I bet when most of them came up with that rhetoric, ALAS! no kids!...experts my ass)....so, city officials? Twiddling their thumbs (more like, thumb up each other's buttholes).....but, no free pass to the "kids" either...

Just because you tried something else first, doesn't mean you can't go ahead and shoot them later if it doesn't work. But it does show, for the record, that you tried every available means to get them to stop this unacceptable behavior first.



Hell, I'm still waiting to see someone use a high pressure fire hose.

 

[Claudette]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

They should all be doing what the Koreans did in the LA riots. Those guys were on the roof of their buildings shooting anyone who tried to break in. None of their businesses got looted or robbed. Shoot the bastards. The Koreans sure as hell did.

 

[freyasman]

View attachment 373626

Has anyone considered something like this?
Rioters are observed by multiple cameras and many of them can be identified...… the ones who get arrested are obviously identified. What if, once they are ID'ed, they are cited and that results in them being barred from any sort of government assistance? No EBT, no SNAP, no unemployment?
What if any outstanding debts of their's are called in as a result, such as student loans?
What if they are barred from getting a line of credit with any store or corporate entity, because why should those companies whose interests have been damaged and storefronts looted, extend credit to a rioter or looter?
What if they can't get an apartment in a decent neighborhood because it shows up on their background check that they like to burn property down? We don't like sex offenders in our neighborhoods, maybe we should keep these guys out too.
Just because some DAs are not willing to prosecute these folks doesn't mean there is no way to punish this behavior...… there is a lot of other stuff that the rest of us can do.







Maybe there are other ways to deal with these people than just putting bullets in them.

It shouldn't have gotten to this point. Most of the ones rioting, are punk-ass kids, as in college age kids, who have had their daycare gates opened up and pretty much have been told that there will be no consequences for their actions . So, yeah! This is the lottery to them, to deal with their "angst " and all their other "feelings", instead of an ass whippin. (Yeah, btw, I bet I can look up the "how to discipline your child " docs, over the last few decades, and I bet when most of them came up with that rhetoric, ALAS! no kids!...experts my ass)....so, city officials? Twiddling their thumbs (more like, thumb up each other's buttholes).....but, no free pass to the "kids" either...

Just because you tried something else first, doesn't mean you can't go ahead and shoot them later if it doesn't work. But it does show, for the record, that you tried every available means to get them to stop this unacceptable behavior first.



Hell, I'm still waiting to see someone use a high pressure fire hose.

Maybe this idea is too much like the social credit score the Chinese are reputed to be using to keep their people in line, but at this point, I'm just spit-balling.

 

[freyasman]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

They should all be doing what the Koreans did in the LA riots. Those guys were on the roof of their buildings shooting anyone who tried to break in. None of their businesses got looted or robbed. Shoot the bastards. The Koreans sure as hell did.

They and their families were the owners of the businesses in question; the places getting looted and vandalized in most places now are corporate owned and they just shrug and make an insurance claim.

 

[Turtlesoup]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

Time to change the constitution---it is a right to shoot and kill rioters/looters/thugs attacking people. I can support that-------Texas used to have this as their castle doctrine.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

They should all be doing what the Koreans did in the LA riots. Those guys were on the roof of their buildings shooting anyone who tried to break in. None of their businesses got looted or robbed. Shoot the bastards. The Koreans sure as hell did.

In these lib cities and states, they virtually disarm their law abiding citizens with all the laws they have against firearms or the use of them. You can only use a firearm if your life is in immediate danger, and even then, you can find yourself behind bars.

This is why there needs to be a nationwide protection for those people. There are good people in these commie cities and states, but not enough of them to get good Republican leadership. They are outnumbered. Those people need to be protected instead of the criminals being protected. It would at least even the score when it came to saving your investment and property.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

They should all be doing what the Koreans did in the LA riots. Those guys were on the roof of their buildings shooting anyone who tried to break in. None of their businesses got looted or robbed. Shoot the bastards. The Koreans sure as hell did.

They and their families were the owners of the businesses in question; the places getting looted and vandalized in most places now are corporate owned and they just shrug and make an insurance claim.

So when insurance companies pay billions in claims, how do you think they recoup that money?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This thread needs to be somewhere else....

It is just encouraging outright gun battles on the streets. When the cops show up who do they shoot at?

Lets just say that the Einsteins on this thread might not solve riots...

So lets say a peaceful protest is going on... Someone from the crowd throws a rock through a window. are you going to gun down the whole crowd?

Why not do what European Cops do? Seems far more effective and they have far less damage...

So you're a protester and this law is enacted. Are you going to be the one to toss that rock?

We had riots here too for one day. But nobody to my knowledge had their car window busted and and pulled out of the car to get the crap beat out of them. Why? Because our Castle Doctrine extends to your vehicle if you are a CCW holder. Forcibly breaking into my car is no different than forcibly breaking into my house. Shoot to kill, and it's all perfectly legal.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

View attachment 373626

Has anyone considered something like this?
Rioters are observed by multiple cameras and many of them can be identified...… the ones who get arrested are obviously identified. What if, once they are ID'ed, they are cited and that results in them being barred from any sort of government assistance? No EBT, no SNAP, no unemployment?
What if any outstanding debts of their's are called in as a result, such as student loans?
What if they are barred from getting a line of credit with any store or corporate entity, because why should those companies whose interests have been damaged and storefronts looted, extend credit to a rioter or looter?
What if they can't get an apartment in a decent neighborhood because it shows up on their background check that they like to burn property down? We don't like sex offenders in our neighborhoods, maybe we should keep these guys out too.
Just because some DAs are not willing to prosecute these folks doesn't mean there is no way to punish this behavior...… there is a lot of other stuff that the rest of us can do.







Maybe there are other ways to deal with these people than just putting bullets in them.

My idea is so that we don't have to put bullets in them. We have had nuke weapons all of my life. We don't have them to use on anybody, we have them to stop others from using theirs against us.

You have some good ideas, but whatever we do, it has to be a strong enough deterrent to stop the uncivilized behavior. People living in their moms basement don't care about welfare or getting an apartment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I watched the Laura show tonight. She was discussing the continuing riots and attacks on businesses in Minneapolis this weekend that no other MSM outlet covered. Interviewing business owners, they told their story how they ran to their business only to helplessly watch it be looted, destroyed, and in some cases, burnt to the ground.

Some had businesses handed down for generations. Others were foreigners who came here to realize the American dream. Their city and state leaders allowed their dreams to go up in smoke.

Lowlifes who do these things have no fear, because there is no real deterrent to stopping them. We've seen these so-called leaders tell their police to stand down; to not enforce laws; to not protect these businesses; to allow them "room" to vent.

IMO, a real deterrent works every time it's tried. What if we had a federal law that allowed property owners to use deadly force to protect their property with no ability for city or local governments to prosecute?

A group of thugs start busting into a business. The business owner and family or other employees open fire killing dozens or hundreds of lowlifes. Other businesses do the same. Who in their right mind (after witnessing this) would think of trying to break into, or destroying another business down the street weary if they are armed and willing to kill to protect their investment?

True, hundreds of funerals, but also hundreds of businesses saved, millions of dollars not lost, and thousands of jobs saved in just one city. We need a national law of using deadly force to protect our property.

How about the business owners and their families w/wo their employees
target their elected officials houses

This shouldn't even be up for discussion
They need to start killing on site and when they start rioting because of that
it should be killing on site, too fucking bad

Where there are no consequences people will continue to do
what they know they can get away with

Why people haven't forcibly removed elected officials is beyond me
This is treason and derelict of duty

Democrats are not very bright people. Look at NYC. AOC easily won the nomination for her party. How smart are those people?

When you live in an area where the stupid outnumber the smart, you end up with stupid leadership.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If I was a shop owner , I would invite the National guard to take a position on my roof along with me.

The problem is you don't have that availability. Only the state can summon the Guard. That's why people need to protect themselves and their belongings.

 

[miketx]

Yep, kill them all.