Is the US to blame for all of Cuba's ills?

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You posted your opinion. I posted a PBS analysis. Keep whining.

A PBS analysis means nothing in the context of this issue.
I'm not "whining". I have nothing to whine about.

Again, sixty years of US policy towards Cuba went before whatever you think Trump did.

That's like saying the very last time you were slapped by your mother, not all the times before,
turned you into the pathetic clown you are. Now fuck off and stay fucked off!

Bullshit.

You posted your opinion. I posted a PBS analysis. Keep whining.

A PBS analysis means nothing in the context of this issue.
I'm not "whining". I have nothing to whine about.

Again, sixty years of US policy towards Cuba went before whatever you think Trump did.

That's like saying the very last time you were slapped by your mother, not all the times before,
turned you into the pathetic clown you now are. Now fuck off and stay fucked off!

Obama rolled back sanctions and made things easier for the communist regime in Cuba. So you lose again.

Yeah, Obama made things easier for his commie pals and friends.
Trump went back to the way it's been for decades.

I guess the new Cuban leader isn't doing so well. So what?
Trump isn't president any longer, genius.

 

[sartre play]

AS there close neighbor we sure haven't helped.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

60 years ago

With the fall of the Soviet Union (40 years ago?) that ceased to be an issue

Yet Cuba still remains an authoritarian dictatorship. We don't have to make concessions to them.
They have to make them to us. Is this too difficult for you to understand?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

AS there close neighbor we sure haven't helped.

We're only close geographically and Cuba still is aiding Venezuela and other bad actors
worldwide.

Tell me what we owe them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Castro led a long life.

And he whined about the sanctions for decades.

 

[pknopp]

Castro led a long life.

And he whined about the sanctions for decades.

They affected him none. They changed nothing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Castro led a long life.

And he whined about the sanctions for decades.

They affected him none. They changed nothing.

They affected him none.

Sure they did. He couldn't steal as much.

 

[pknopp]

Castro led a long life.

And he whined about the sanctions for decades.

They affected him none. They changed nothing.

They affected him none.

Sure they did. He couldn't steal as much.

He lived very well. Had everything he needed and more. It did NOTHING for the people.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

 

[pknopp]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

 

[pknopp]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

So we harmed the people for 60 years so Castro wouldn't have things he didn't even need? To ease our conscience?

Despite knowing it did nothing to change anything in Cuba we still insist on doing it? Despite it not working in other places we still insist on doing it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

So we harmed the people for 60 years so Castro wouldn't have things he didn't even need? To ease our conscience?

Despite knowing it did nothing to change anything in Cuba we still insist on doing it? Despite it not working in other places we still insist on doing it?

The United States embargo against Cuba prevents American businesses, and businesses with commercial activities in the United States, from conducting trade with Cuban interests. It is the most enduring trade embargo in modern history. The United States first imposed an embargo on the sale of arms to Cuba on March 14, 1958, during the Fulgencio Batista regime. Again on October 19, 1960 (almost two years after the Cuban Revolution had led to the deposition of the Batista regime) the U.S. placed an embargo on exports to Cuba except for food and medicine after Cuba nationalized American-owned Cuban oil refineries without compensation. On February 7, 1962 the embargo was extended to include almost all exports. Since the year 2000, the embargo no longer prohibits the trade of food and humanitarian supplies.[1]

As of 2018, the embargo is enforced mainly through six statutes: the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, the Cuban Assets Control Regulations of 1963, the Cuban Democracy Act of 1992, the Helms–Burton Act of 1996, and the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000.[2] The stated purpose of the Cuban Democracy Act of 1992 is to maintain sanctions on Cuba as long as the Cuban government refuses to move toward "democratization and greater respect for human rights".[3] The Helms-Burton Act further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor government in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government were met. In 1999 President Bill Clinton expanded the trade embargo by also disallowing foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies to trade with Cuba. In 2000, Clinton authorized the sale of food and "humanitarian" products to Cuba.

United States embargo against Cuba - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lesh]

60 years ago

With the fall of the Soviet Union (40 years ago?) that ceased to be an issue

Yet Cuba still remains an authoritarian dictatorship. We don't have to make concessions to them.
They have to make them to us. Is this too difficult for you to understand?

How many authoritarian dictatorships do we have relationships with?

I give you Saudi Arabia and the Philippines for starters

 

[Lesh]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

Castro’s been dead a while dude

 

[Godboy]

Yes the US is in part, to blame.

How should we have handled Cuba?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

Castro’s been dead a while dude

One of them is still kicking, dude.

Raúl Castro - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CowboyTed]

Yes the US is in part, to blame.

Agreed... Cuba has also to take some as well... Complex situation...

Cuba has a pretty dismal human rights record too...

The US Policy is a joke... Cuba would have gave up Castro decades ago if US just let US Goods flow into Cuba...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cuba would have gave up Castro decades ago if US just let US Goods flow into Cuba...

Why?

 

[Lesh]

He lived very well

Sure did. He owned the country.

So what did we gain by harming the people all these years?

Castro had less to steal.
Less money to spread his "revolution".

Castro’s been dead a while dude

One of them is still kicking, dude.

Raúl Castro - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Raul is not Fidel and oh… he stepped down a while back