Is the US a feudal state?

[rupol2000]

In the United States, there are at least 2 signs of a feudal system.

1 The right of absolute veto. This is a feudal order, which says that in the legislation, de facto, the king is head, since he can reject any bill.

2. Strong de-centralization is a clear sign of feudalism, which distinguishes it from monarchy, priesthood system and parliamentarism.

Are there any more signs of feudalism?
(I'm not saying that feudalism is something bad)

 

[Otis Mayfield]

In the United States, there are at least 2 signs of a feudal system.

1 The right of absolute veto. This is a feudal order, which says that in the legislation, de facto, the king is head, since he can reject any bill.

2. Strong de-centralization is a clear sign of feudalism, which distinguishes it from monarchy, priesthood system and parliamentarism.

Are there any more signs of feudalism?
(I'm not saying that feudalism is something bad)

You're one goofy dude.

 

[Dekster]

In the United States, there are at least 2 signs of a feudal system.

1 The right of absolute veto. This is a feudal order, which says that in the legislation, de facto, the king is head, since he can reject any bill.

2. Strong de-centralization is a clear sign of feudalism, which distinguishes it from monarchy, priesthood system and parliamentarism.

Are there any more signs of feudalism?
(I'm not saying that feudalism is something bad)

Congress can override the king's absoluteness.

 

[rupol2000]

Congress can override the king's absoluteness.

Constitutional rights can only be changed by popular vote

 

[rupol2000]

Congress can override the king's absoluteness.

Or are you talking about the right to override the veto with a two-thirds majority in a second vote? This only applies to the relative veto, and in the United States there is also an absolute veto(Pocket veto)

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Constitutional rights can only be changed by popular vote

God you are stupid the Constitution is changed via amendment which requires 2/3rds og both houses to approve and 3/4's of the states to vote yes. As for veto the Congress can over ride the Presidents Veto

 

[rupol2000]

God you are stupid the Constitution is changed via amendment which requires 2/3rds og both houses to approve and 3/4's of the states to vote yes. As for veto the Congress can over ride the Presidents Veto

You are confusing, we are talking about a pocket veto.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You are confusing, we are talking about a pocket veto.

No such thing.

 

[rupol2000]

3/4's of the states to vote yes

should there be a popular vote or local government in the states?

 

[rupol2000]

No such thing.

there is

 

[RetiredGySgt]

should there be a popular vote or local government in the states?

Each state has its own Government and its own Constitution. The US Constitution requires action by all 50 states.

 

[rupol2000]

United States​

Normally if a president does not sign a bill, it becomes law after ten days as if he had signed it. A pocket veto occurs when a bill fails to become law because the president does not sign it within the ten-day period and cannot return the bill to Congress because Congress is no longer in session. Article 1, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution states:

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a Law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a Law.

The Constitution limits the president's period for decision on whether to sign or return any legislation to ten days (not including Sundays) while the United States Congress is in session. A return veto happens when the president sends a bill, along with his objections, back to the house of Congress from which it originated. Congress can override the veto by a two-thirds vote of both chambers, whereupon the bill becomes law. If Congress prevents the bill's return by adjourning during the 10-day period, and the president does not sign the bill, a "pocket veto" occurs and the bill does not become law. Congress can adjourn and designate an agent to receive veto messages and other communications so that a pocket veto cannot happen, an action Congresses have routinely taken for decades. If a bill is pocket vetoed while Congress is out of session, the only way for Congress to circumvent the pocket veto is to reintroduce the legislation as a new bill, pass it through both chambers, and present it to the President again for signature. James Madison became the first president to use the pocket veto in 1812.[6]

Of presidents throughout United States history, Franklin D. Roosevelt had an outstanding number of pocket vetoes, more than anyone before or after him. During his presidency from 1933 to 1945 Roosevelt had vetoed 635 bills, 263 of which were pocket vetoes.[7] All presidents after him until George W. Bush had pocket vetoes while they were in office; the most after Roosevelt was Dwight D. Eisenhower who had 108. George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump are the only modern presidents to not use pocket vetoes. Ten presidents from founding to 1886 did not use this tactic.[8]

Pocket veto - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RetiredGySgt]

there is

LOL no there is not if a President does not veto a bill after 10 days it becomes law.

 

[rupol2000]

Each state has its own Government and its own Constitution. The US Constitution requires action by all 50 states.

I mean, do the states require a vote of the entire people (plebiscite), or is it enough to vote in parliaments when the US constitution is amended?

 

[rupol2000]

LOL no there is not if a President does not veto a bill after 10 days it becomes law.

We are not talking about this, but about the fact that there is a mechanism that allows the president to reject the bill without the possibility of a second vote. Finally, read what a pocket veto is. It is in the USA.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I mean, do the states require a vote of the entire people (plebiscite), or is it enough to vote in parliaments when the US constitution is amended?

depends it is possible for state Government to do it but they always have a popular vote.

 

[Dekster]

Or are you talking about the right to override the veto with a two-thirds majority in a second vote? This only applies to the relative veto, and in the United States there is also an absolute veto(Pocket veto)

Well, in addition to not undertstanding that the POTUS is not absolute, you also don't understand what a pocket veto is....

 

[rupol2000]

Well, in addition to not undertstanding that the POTUS is not absolute, you also don't understand what a pocket veto is....

There are 2 types of vetoes. In "usual" democracies, the veto is almost a formality; if the president returns the law for further consideration, the parliament re-approves the law with a two-thirds majority, thus overcoming the veto.
If the president is able to avoid this and reject the law anyway, then this is an absolute veto. This means that the president can overturn any bill.

 

[rupol2000]

Although, as far as I understand, this is not always technically possible. It is necessary that the law got to the signature less than 10 days before the end of the session of the Congress.

 

[rupol2000]

in this case, it is considered rejected