Is Obama Communist; Is Obamacare Communist?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

1) Obama had three communist parents, voted to left of Bernie Sanders- the only open communist in Senate- and was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis (Communist Party # 13456734) so ,yes, he is a communist for all intents and purposes.

2) Obamacare is communist in that it, a) immediately puts 15 milllion on Medicaid thus given 15 million more Americans a huge incentive not to work at a time when worker participation is at a historic low point!

and, b) Obamacare is communist in that it controls and consolidates the medical industry ( 20% of economy) so that it can centrally manage it. For example, it is forcing hospital mergers much the way Stalin forced "efficiencies" by on the auto industry by merging it into one huge govt controlled company that, with no competition, made very expensive and ultra low quality cars!!


Norman Thomas quotes: (socialist candidate for president)

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

 

[Stephanie]

weird. I had this bookmarked and was just reading it. Hope you don't mind Ed if I put it in here. kind of freaky
you all decide I guess

SNIP:
Global Elite Picked Obama Long Before Voters
Man recounts startling tale of first time he heard of Barack Obama—18 years ago in Russia

By Tom Fife
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow in the process of starting a software development, joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community.

One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M. V. was a levelheaded scientist, while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing communist cause.

Early in 1992, the American half of our venture was invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge—one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

“You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice president and you didn’t do it.”

The general response went along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice president, but the president and vice president as a ticket.

“Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon,” she said. The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the
right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she, black or not.

“What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a communist?” she said. “Well, you will; and he will be a communist.”

One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

all of it here:
Global Elite Picked Obama 171

 

[bendog]

I admit he's not a good president, but if he's a communist he's the most ineffective incompetent commie ever, considering how well the Kochs and their brethren are doing. JFC, AIG's founder is suing cause Obama lent his company a few hundred million dollars.

 

[deltex1]

Neither is necessary....or productive.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I admit he's not a good president, but if he's a communist he's the most ineffective incompetent commie ever,.

why would you say that when Obamacare just socialized 20% of the economy!! What planet have you been on?

 

[regent]

This communism thing was all done with Social Security and then again with Medicare and on and on. All America is reported to be communistic, but there was a report that a non-communist was found in a small town in Oregon. If true, he will go on exhibition in Portland sometime this winter.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, considering how well the Kochs and their brethren are doing. .

braindead brainwashed liberal does not know Democrats raise more money from fat cats than Republicans!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

This communism thing was all done with Social Security and then again with Medicare and on and on.

dear, we are still moving rapidly in the communist direction with Obamcare being the latest huge huge step. Do you understand now, liberal.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

 

[regent]

This communism thing was all done with Social Security and then again with Medicare and on and on.

dear, we are still moving rapidly in the communist direction with Obamcare being the latest huge huge step. Do you understand now, liberal.

According to some we have been moving in the communist direction since 1935. I can't believe anyone can be that stupid. Maybe I'm the stupid one for responding to those inane posts.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

According to some we have been moving in the communist direction since 1935. I can't believe anyone can be that stupid. Maybe I'm the stupid one for responding to those inane posts.

yes dear the govt has been growing the entire time and under obama faster than ever. There is no end short of communism for liberals. Still over your head?


Norman Thomas quotes: ( socialist presidential candidate)

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

If you need a reason all you need to do is look up the definition of Communism. Surely, that's within your capability.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

If you need a reason all you need to do is look up the definition of Communism. Surely, that's within your capability.

dear can you say why Obamacare is not communistic or must you admit you lack the IQ to defend what you say

 

[Ravi]

Well I hope they deny medical care to any non-citizen without health coverage. /sarcasm

 

[jwoodie]

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

If you need a reason all you need to do is look up the definition of Communism. Surely, that's within your capability.

Communism is an (unrealistic) ideal which has never been put into practice beyond small "communes." Thus, the question of whether a political leader is a "communist" is largely irrelevant. There is, however, an active "social justice" movement which seeks to achieve economic equality through income redistribution. Obama's words and actions indicate that he is firmly in this camp.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sure, Eddy, sure.



I bet you live in Jasper Junction.

 

[regent]

According to some we have been moving in the communist direction since 1935. I can't believe anyone can be that stupid. Maybe I'm the stupid one for responding to those inane posts.

yes dear the govt has been growing the entire time and under obama faster than ever. There is no end short of communism for liberals. Still over your head?


Norman Thomas quotes: ( socialist presidential candidate)

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

If you need a reason all you need to do is look up the definition of Communism. Surely, that's within your capability.

dear can you say why Obamacare is not communistic or must you admit you lack the IQ to defend what you say

No, ObamaCare is not Communist. Anyone who thinks it is has no idea what Communism is.

dear, if you disagree with OP you must say why. Notice that a liberal will not have the IQ to know that saying why is necessary.

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

If you need a reason all you need to do is look up the definition of Communism. Surely, that's within your capability.

dear can you say why Obamacare is not communistic or must you admit you lack the IQ to defend what you say

So with your background and IQ can you explain where Marx was wrong on his dialectical materialism?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So with your background and IQ can you explain where Marx was wrong on his dialectical materialism?

1) it was objectively and obviously wrong in that it slowly starved perhaps 200 million human beings to death making it the most evil form of liberalism ever dreamed up.

2) it was intellectually wrong in that it saw the evolution and resolution of history in class struggle between capitalist workers and capitalist owners. In reality, there was no class struggle under capitalism because capitalism had to offer workers and consumers the best jobs and products possible in order to survive in a internationally competitive environment. Marx predicted workers would get less and less under capitalism yet today, for example, they get new Iphones the moment they are invented thanks to capitalism while under Marxism they would slowly starve to death. Marx was the most deadly thinker in human history yet modern liberals unconsciously follow him having no idea from where the class warfare rhetoric they parrot comes.[/QUOTE]

 

[Old Rocks]

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