Is MARXIST Obami Salami a DICTATOR ?

[Truthmatters]

Gore Vidal The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh

heres Gore Vidal talking of his motive

 

[gautama]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

Ya see.......TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER JUST DOESN'T GEDDIT.

TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER simply can't understand that just because a murderer shares the views of a certain group, that the GROUP DOES NOT BECOME a bunch of murderers because one of the group is a murderer.

TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER makes the basic error in Logic and keeps advertising her BIZARRE IGNORANCE of Logic on, and on, and on.

 

[Truthmatters]

In McVeighs own words he said he blew up the building as a retribution for ruby ridge and waco.

 

[rdean]

As I mentioned before, convincing threads are generally also literate threads - and this is neither.

My first on seeing anyone compare Obama with Mao, Stalin, Lukashenko, Ceaucescu or Stroessner is that this person has never been to a dictatorship themselves.

Personally, I think it is an insult to the millions who died under the tyranny of those leaders to pretend you suffer under the same form of government as they suffered.

You don't.

Sodafish,

My point is that it isn't a DICTATORSHIP ......YET.

My point is that by passing legislation that is clearly MARXIST in nature.......that will need a STUPENDOUSLY ENORMOUS Governmental Bureaucracy to handle this MARXIST type NATIONAL Healthcare, NATIONAL Cap & Trade (ENERGY needs for EVERYONE)......STIMULUS MANIPULATIONS to have this CATASTROPHE supposedly functioning with all sorts of phoney accounting systems.......all this will generate a Government that can blithely ignore it's own errors and not be subject to the SELF-CORRECTIVE ENLIGHTENED CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM that we have at the present time.....protected UNTIL NOW by The Constitution of the United States of America.

As to comparing MARXIST Obami Salami to Stalin, Mao, etc.........I am simply stating that Obami is TRYING TO ACHIEVE that level of power where one doesn't need the acquiescence of the people to do as a CLASSICAL DICTATOR wishes.

I am EMPHATICALLY stating that MARXIST Obami Salami is NOT a Dictator YET !!!!

But.....if MARXIST Obami Salami succeeds in achieving a GOVERNMENTAL BUREAUCRACY because of his AGENDA......then it will be a cake-walk for him to BECOME a Dictator.

Also, OBVIOUSLY, I am emphatically NOT comparing MARXIST Obami Salami's way of achieving a Stalinistic or Mao Tse Tung type of Dictatorship anywhere near the same way they did.

Who even knows what you are talking about turd. You just rant. You don't even make sense.

Move along folks, there is no debate here. Just another right wing loon who believes the talking points without knowing what the words mean.

 

[Maple]

It seems with left-nuts....the more insane and extreme your views the more they love you. If it means fucking America up they literally go into orgasmic euphoria.

So Obama may be playing it smart. He made his extreme views seem palatable to the masses....promise the world and deliver nothing.

Obama may not get what he wants passed...but you can bet what he doesn't will be blamed on Republicans.


Rep Grayson (D) who quickly became a darling of the left just from being an asshole just had to cuss out the GOP and say stupid shit. Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick [Turban] Durban. The list goes on and on.

It's brilliant. Being in a party were you don't even have to produce anything. It's also the reason Washington is so fucked up right now.

They can try to blame it on the Republicans all day long, but the fact remains the democrats are in full majority and control of all 3 houses, the congress, the senate and the administration. They can pass it all without ONE Republican vote and anyone who has an education higher than a 2nd grader knows it.

 

[mudwhistle]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

 

[gautama]

As I mentioned before, convincing threads are generally also literate threads - and this is neither.

My first on seeing anyone compare Obama with Mao, Stalin, Lukashenko, Ceaucescu or Stroessner is that this person has never been to a dictatorship themselves.

Personally, I think it is an insult to the millions who died under the tyranny of those leaders to pretend you suffer under the same form of government as they suffered.

You don't.

Sodafish,

My point is that it isn't a DICTATORSHIP ......YET.

My point is that by passing legislation that is clearly MARXIST in nature.......that will need a STUPENDOUSLY ENORMOUS Governmental Bureaucracy to handle this MARXIST type NATIONAL Healthcare, NATIONAL Cap & Trade (ENERGY needs for EVERYONE)......STIMULUS MANIPULATIONS to have this CATASTROPHE supposedly functioning with all sorts of phoney accounting systems.......all this will generate a Government that can blithely ignore it's own errors and not be subject to the SELF-CORRECTIVE ENLIGHTENED CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM that we have at the present time.....protected UNTIL NOW by The Constitution of the United States of America.

As to comparing MARXIST Obami Salami to Stalin, Mao, etc.........I am simply stating that Obami is TRYING TO ACHIEVE that level of power where one doesn't need the acquiescence of the people to do as a CLASSICAL DICTATOR wishes.

I am EMPHATICALLY stating that MARXIST Obami Salami is NOT a Dictator YET !!!!

But.....if MARXIST Obami Salami succeeds in achieving a GOVERNMENTAL BUREAUCRACY because of his AGENDA......then it will be a cake-walk for him to BECOME a Dictator.

Also, OBVIOUSLY, I am emphatically NOT comparing MARXIST Obami Salami's way of achieving a Stalinistic or Mao Tse Tung type of Dictatorship anywhere near the same way they did.

Who even knows what you are talking about turd. You just rant. You don't even make sense.

Move along folks, there is no debate here. Just another right wing loon who believes the talking points without knowing what the words mean.

Weenie RDeanie,

The interplay of the concepts involved are too much for a unicelled brain like yours to handle.

Instead of criticizing that which you admittedly don't understand, the OBVIOUS thing to do is to get someone to help you unravel the different meanings.

Being a mental weenie, rdeany.....I suggest you flush yourself down the nearest toilet bowl.

 

[Toro]

TORO BULLSHIT,

You're full of TORO BULLSHIT.

One's IQ is inversely proportional to the intensity one believes Obama is a Marxist. One's IQ is non-existent if one believes he is the anti-Christ.

TORO BULLSHIT,

Do you really think that your SUBSTANCE-LESS Obamarrhoidal BULLSHIT has any credilibilty ?

My posts are FILLED WITH IRREFUTABLE FACTUAL INFO.....yours is just SUBSTANCE-LESS DECLARATIONS.

Here's a substance-filled declaration - You're an idiot. You wouldn't know Marxism if it bit you on the ass.

 

[Truthmatters]

[edit] Political
McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party when he lived in Buffalo, New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[11] McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[12] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election.[13]

 

[Truthmatters]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

Wheres your proof he was politically motivated at all?

 

[gautama]

One's IQ is inversely proportional to the intensity one believes Obama is a Marxist. One's IQ is non-existent if one believes he is the anti-Christ.

TORO BULLSHIT,

Do you really think that your SUBSTANCE-LESS Obamarrhoidal BULLSHIT has any credilibilty ?

My posts are FILLED WITH IRREFUTABLE FACTUAL INFO.....yours is just SUBSTANCE-LESS DECLARATIONS.

Here's a substance-filled declaration - You're an idiot. You wouldn't know Marxism if it bit you on the ass.

TORO BULLSHIT,

How many times do I have to tell you that you TORO BULL SHIT are full of TORO BULLSHIT.

It is really as simple as that.

 

[gautama]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

Wheres your proof he was politically motivated at all?

A distinct pattern is developing with the Obamarrhoidal Species:

TORO BULLSHIT is simply TORO BULLSHIT.

And......

To TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER, TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER.

The STARK SIMPLICITY of it all !!!

 

[EriktheRed]

Is MARXIST Obami Salami a DICTATOR ?

No, but you're a DIC[K]HEAD.




Keep up that bitterness, btw. It's so entertaining.

 

[Sodafin]

As I mentioned before, convincing threads are generally also literate threads - and this is neither.

My first on seeing anyone compare Obama with Mao, Stalin, Lukashenko, Ceaucescu or Stroessner is that this person has never been to a dictatorship themselves.

Personally, I think it is an insult to the millions who died under the tyranny of those leaders to pretend you suffer under the same form of government as they suffered.

You don't.

Sodafish,

My point is that it isn't a DICTATORSHIP ......YET.

My point is that by passing legislation that is clearly MARXIST in nature.......that will need a STUPENDOUSLY ENORMOUS Governmental Bureaucracy to handle this MARXIST type NATIONAL Healthcare, NATIONAL Cap & Trade (ENERGY needs for EVERYONE)......STIMULUS MANIPULATIONS to have this CATASTROPHE supposedly functioning with all sorts of phoney accounting systems.......all this will generate a Government that can blithely ignore it's own errors and not be subject to the SELF-CORRECTIVE ENLIGHTENED CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM that we have at the present time.....protected UNTIL NOW by The Constitution of the United States of America.

And my point is that your post is completely devoid of basis; it is factually inaccurate, it is based on wild misconceptions, and it displays a complete failure of the use of terminology.

Let's start with this - how many dictatorships and how many genuinely socialist states have you been to personally?

 

[gautama]

Is MARXIST Obami Salami a DICTATOR ?

No, but you're a DIC[K]HEAD.




Keep up that bitterness, btw. It's so entertaining.

And YOU, Erik The Red COMMIE are Erik The Red COMMIE,

More like frustration.

TRUTH should be entertaining.

 

[gautama]

As I mentioned before, convincing threads are generally also literate threads - and this is neither.

My first on seeing anyone compare Obama with Mao, Stalin, Lukashenko, Ceaucescu or Stroessner is that this person has never been to a dictatorship themselves.

Personally, I think it is an insult to the millions who died under the tyranny of those leaders to pretend you suffer under the same form of government as they suffered.

You don't.

Sodafish,

My point is that it isn't a DICTATORSHIP ......YET.

My point is that by passing legislation that is clearly MARXIST in nature.......that will need a STUPENDOUSLY ENORMOUS Governmental Bureaucracy to handle this MARXIST type NATIONAL Healthcare, NATIONAL Cap & Trade (ENERGY needs for EVERYONE)......STIMULUS MANIPULATIONS to have this CATASTROPHE supposedly functioning with all sorts of phoney accounting systems.......all this will generate a Government that can blithely ignore it's own errors and not be subject to the SELF-CORRECTIVE ENLIGHTENED CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM that we have at the present time.....protected UNTIL NOW by The Constitution of the United States of America.

And my point is that your post is completely devoid of basis; it is factually inaccurate, it is based on wild misconceptions, and it displays a complete failure of the use of terminology.

Let's start with this - how many dictatorships and how many genuinely socialist states have you been to personally?

SODAFART,

WHEN WILL YOU OBAMARRHOIDS LEARN THAT HURLING SUBSTANCE-LESS BULLSHIT HAS NO CREDIBILITY !!!!

You state:

(1) "Completely devoid of basis"........EXAMPLES ?????

(2) "Factually inaccurate".................EXAMPLES ?????

(3) "Based on wild misconceptions"....EXAMPLES ?????

(4) "Failure of the use of terminology..EXAMPLES ?????

First off, one doesn't have to have been to any dictatorships or genuinely socialist states personally to form accurate opinions. It helps....but obviously unnecessary.

You REPEATEDLY hurl criticisms and insults in all your posts without adequate, or ANY proof at all.

You made FIVE ERRORS so far: The FIRST doing precisely what I just stated.
Hurling criticisms without any proof in THIS particular post, I listed FOUR additional ERRORS, that's FIVE TOTAL (so far)....the four criticisms listed WITHOUT SUBSTANCE i.e., NO EXAMPLES is the typical trait of the CLUELESS OBAMARRHOID that is CONSTANTLY DISPLAYED mulitiple times in EVERY POST.

ERROR 6: Implying that it is necessary to have personally visited dictatorships or "genuine" socialist states to form valid opinions.

ERROR 7: WTF is a "genuine" socialist state ? That is a nonsensical statement. Any rational person can define his version of a "genuine" socialist state. Even taking the "expert's" definition.....there are millions of "experts" you fucking idiot.

ERROR 8: I have been TO AT LEAST 1/2 DOZEN DICTATORSHIPS you silly fucking Obamarrhoidal idiot....should that increase the numbers of your ERRORS to 8+6 =14 .......FOURTEEN ??????

ERROR 9: I have been to at least that many "genuine" socialist states..... would that make it FOURTEEN + SIX= TWENTY FUCKING ERRORS you made in a SINGLE, TWO SENTENCE POST ?!?!?!?

A SINGLE, TWO SENTENCE POST WITH TWENTY ERRORS YOU OBAMARRHOIDAL MORON !!!!!

Admittedly, ELEVEN of the TWENTY ERRORS are legitimate but could be considered a stretch.

BUT NINE ERRORS ARE NOT.

You picked the wrong person for your frivolous, unsubstantiated OBAMARRHOIDAL BULLSHIT when you decided to match your mentally challenged unicelled brain against mine !!!!

I am the son of a Distinguished Diplomat. I am a combat vet with two Purple Hearts (not the Kerry kind)......and one of my cousins is Arthur Frommer, Atty cum laude. The roommate of JFK at Harvard, and the most successful Travel Entrepreneur in US History....who had hotels scattered throughout Europe and Mid East. Presently, his daughter is running the business. That partially explains my many travels.

Believe it or not, that's just a FRACTION Of my resume.

Now, you made NINE ERRORS in a SINGLE, Two sentence POST.

I made OVER a DOZEN posts in this thread. Probably, 1/2 a dozen lengthy 5/6 paragraph posts (with 2-4 sentences in each paragraph).... in this thread. There is a good probability that I made a dozen or so errors (other than typos).... WHICH I DOUBT....but possible.

POINT THEM OUT TO ME ...... if you can....you insignificant little turd.

 

[mudwhistle]

[edit] Political
McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party when he lived in Buffalo, New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[11] McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[12] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election.[13]

People who vote Libertarian tend to be racists and extremists.

Judging by his actions that was pretty prophetic. You're not doing very well proving your point.


McVeigh attempted to become a Green Beret in the 1989-90 time frame and was expelled for some reason during Special Forces Selection.....this happened while I myself was in the "Q" course. For some reason the tests they used to identify me as being acceptable ended up identifying him as an odd-ball or an unacceptable candidate. Perhaps this pushed him over the edge and made him resent the US Government.

Anyone who would do the things he did was outside of the norm and can't be blamed on the GOP I'm afraid. He was a mental case that needed counseling. He was not indicative of the Republican party.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

Better examples are:

ELF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

ALF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

Daniel Andreas San Diego, politically motivated left wing terrorist...

SHAC, a politically motivated left wing terrorist group...

Crimethinc, a politically motivated terrorist group...

 

[mudwhistle]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

Better examples are:

ELF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

ALF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

Daniel Andreas San Diego, politically motivated left wing terrorist...

SHAC, a politically motivated left wing terrorist group...

Crimethinc, a politically motivated terrorist group...

They don't get the press a right-winger will get.

If a *left-nut* college student who's prone to buggery goes crazy and starts killing his classmates the only notable factor the state run media focuses on is that he used a gun.

 

[gautama]

Tim McVeigh was anti tax , Pro gun and thought Clinton was a dictator.

He listened to right wing radio and even befriended some right wing radio ranters.

He was a republican and killed to protest waco and gun control.

HOW in the hell is he not right wing?

Why do you think he blew up babies?

And Charles Manson was an extreme lefty....what's your friggen point???

Better examples are:

ELF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

ALF, politically motivated left wing terrorists...

Daniel Andreas San Diego, politically motivated left wing terrorist...

SHAC, a politically motivated left wing terrorist group...

Crimethinc, a politically motivated terrorist group...

Excellent point Radioman.

Here is this "perambulating "Mental Disease" AKA TRUTHDOESN'T MATTER trotting out the SOLITARY Whackjob McVEIGH (although I am sure there are many additional Whackjobs that voted for the Republican Party).....and is beating this red herring to death claiming that since McVeigh voted Republican or registered Republican THEREFORE McVeigh holding those views, represents the Republicans and/or the Tea Party.

Whilst you in a single KNOWLEDGEABLE POST listed FIVE.....not whackjob individuals ...... but FIVE LEFTY PSYCHO TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS.

This PATHETIC "perambulating Mental Disease", to this very moment, is probably STILL convinced of the righteousness of her rant TOTALLY UNAWARE that her REPETITIVE and CONTINUAL RANT exposed her that many times as a TOTAL IDIOT, unaware that she was committing the MOST BASIC ERRORS IN LOGIC !!!

I'm pretty sure this OBAMARRHOIDAL IDIOT won't surface in this thread again once she understands what a TOTAL IDIOT she made of herself.

However, Obamarrhoids don't have a conscience......they are wrong so many times that they just brush off the latest exposed distortion or outright LIE..... and just plug on spewing their CRAP as though nothing has happened.