2aguy
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this is the question that we face....which is more immoral....using the humane technique of water boarding against only 3 terrorist mass murderers.....or let innocent men, women and children die painful, horrifying deaths....that is the question that is being ignored in the threads on this debate....
Waterboarding is humane, it leaves no permanent damage, no lasting harm, it does not damage the body in any way and does not kill the monster, it was stopped when the 3 monsters cooperated, and...it saved innocent lives....
Here is a look at that issue....
Articles The Torture Report and the Usual Suspects
Waterboarding is humane, it leaves no permanent damage, no lasting harm, it does not damage the body in any way and does not kill the monster, it was stopped when the 3 monsters cooperated, and...it saved innocent lives....
Here is a look at that issue....
Articles The Torture Report and the Usual Suspects
And, while we do not use EITs as a rule, there are times we all have to ask ourselves: is it moral to let innocent Americans die instead of subjecting a proven, unrepentant killer to harsh interrogation if it will save lives? At that point, it is perfectly legitimate to ask “Whose life is worth more?”
If DiFi has a granddaughter who had been kidnapped and was slated to die in 24 hours and they had the kidnapper in custody, would she let her granddaughter die rather than push the envelope with the kidnapper? I doubt it. I’m sorry if that hurts the feelings of people who live in a black and white world but sometimes you deal in shades of grey. It isn’t pretty, but soetimes necessary -- even for those of us who normally take the moral high ground -- and something we have to live with. We aren’t talking about rounding innocent people up, detaining, and torturing them, cutting off limbs, flaying them, beating them, shocking them.
We are talking about gleaning information from the enemy -- people who killed thousands of innocents and who will continue to kill if we don’t stop them, even if stopping them means asking for information with a little more encouragement than “pretty please with a cherry on top.” Encouragement. Pressured. Uncomfortable. Seemingly endless, but not life threatening. Not physically and permanently damaging.
The Feinstein report included as torture: sleep deprivation, exposure to loud music, humiliation, and waterboarding. Sounds like college life to me. And while I’m not aware of any waterboarding at the university level supervised by doctors with many restrictions as to its implementation, I can’t help but wonder if the drinking and drug games indulged in by America’s progeny aren’t, at least, just as bad?
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