Iranian chief nuclear scientist assassinated

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They used a bomb to blow up his vehicle too. Newsmax showed footage of the aftermath and you could see red puddles of goo on the asphalt that were previously people.
And yes, I approve.
OK, if this is how you want to
Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.

You really are a dumb shit. Iran has been murdering American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 20 years........
You really are a dumb shit. Iranian's were helping us fight ISIS for the last 6 years. Saudi backed terrorists have been killing soldiers in Iraq for the last 20 years. It was Saudi backed hijackers that attacked us on 9-11.

You don't have fucking clue who the enemy is do you?

So now that Israel has set the precedent for violating international law, and commiting an act of terrorism, that means you have no problem with political assassination right?

Just FYI. American golf courses and cabinet members that don't have secret service protection after leaving office, are very soft targets.

Just sayin'
Most of Isis has been gone for a good while. Russia was more instrumental at obliterating those cocksuckers than Iran ever was.
But if revising recent history makes you feel better, than have at it liar!!
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.

You really are a dumb shit. Iran has been murdering American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 20 years........
The US shouldn't be in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq was illegal under International law as the UN made clear.

If you kept your noses out of middle eastern affairs you wouldn't have suffered 9/11.
We're you an advisor to John Kerry?
It's a pity Bernie Sanders didn't become president he would have started the process of pulling America to the peace-loving left.
You have to be related to Neville, you surrender monkey. :piss2:
 

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If your neighbor tells you every other day he wants to wipe you and your house out of the map...... would you take it lying down?
That phrase "wiped off the map" in Farsi was misinterpreted and has been debunked many times.
It wasn't referring to a military invasion and wiping out all the jews.
But was commenting that someday the name "Israel" on map's would be erased and changed to "Palestine". ... :cool:
By Sunni Mans logic when Persia changed their name in the early 1900’s from Persia to Iran They wiped off the name of Persia from the map of the world and became Iran overnight.. So shining my mirror in Sunni Mans direction that was done in Farsi too and was self inflicted Israel on the other hand is going no where and all the double speaking in Farsi is not going to change that...
Sunni Man is protecting the Shia’s in Iran again even though he claims he is Sunni.. Hmmm.. By the way much of the infrastructure in Iran was built by Israelis before the fall of the shah of Iran and the rise of the mullah ‘s that is why they know where everything of importance is. I for one would not want to be working on something threatening them given their knowledge and capabilities but who is to say that they were the ones to do this deed after the Mullahs have made many enemies both inside and outside of Iran.. That is what happens when you export terrorism all over the place and threaten your neighbours both far and wide....
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:
Lol... That is why Iran uses its proxies like Hezbullah and pays money to groups like Hamas and those in Yemen so they can say they are “ peacefull” while they let others do their dirty work for them... As I said before Israel is proactive and will protect itself when it is threatened it is more then capable of finding those who wish it harm before they are able to deliver it and punish them if they succeed after the fact...
 

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He even had several body guards !
Do you approve of these assassinations ???
Did Trump approve of this crime?
Will he leave Biden with another "endless war"?


Live Updates: Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Ambush, State Media Say

"One American official — along with two other intelligence officials — said that Israel was behind the attack on the scientist.o_O

"It was unclear how much the United States may have known about the operation in advance, but the two nations are the closest of allies and have long shared intelligence regarding Iran. The White House and the C.I.A. declined to comment."
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:
And well Israel should!
Iranian Gov't constantly preaches death to Israel and the U.S., but you never hear this in return from the official Gov't's of Israel and the U.S..
You are just too theoretically partisan to see and admit this.
But, each of us has our faults.
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.

And the child has a tantrum on the internet.........you left wing asshats will shill for every mass murdering regime out there, then smear anyone who calls you out on it.........it would be simpler if you just allowed us to protect you and just said thank you.....
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.

And the child has a tantrum on the internet.........you left wing asshats will shill for every mass murdering regime out there, then smear anyone who calls you out on it.........it would be simpler if you just allowed us to protect you and just said thank you.....
Fuck off! You can't protect yourself from the worst pandemic America has ever faced - NO not Covid but Trumpist ideology!
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.

And the child has a tantrum on the internet.........you left wing asshats will shill for every mass murdering regime out there, then smear anyone who calls you out on it.........it would be simpler if you just allowed us to protect you and just said thank you.....
Fuck off! You can't protect yourself from the worst pandemic America has ever faced - NO not Covid but Trumpist ideology!

Blah, Blah, Blah, posts the Kiwi idiot who lives under the protection of the United States, lives under the innovative miracles of the United States, then bitches about everything we do to keep them safe....

Whiny ass little babies are all you morons are...........

If not for the U.S. you would be speaking Chinese and making I-phones in Chinese run labor camps.
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:
Will Bibi deny any MOSSAD culpability in Fakhrizadeh's murder?

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel singled out Mr. Fakhrizadeh during a speech on Iran’s nuclear program in 2018...."

"A shadowy figure, Mr. Fakhrizadeh had long been the No. 1 target of the Mossad, Israel’s intelligence service, which is widely believed to be behind a series of assassinations of scientists a decade ago that included some of Mr. Fakhrizadeh’s deputies."

Live Updates: Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Ambush, State Media Say
 
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I'm no Intelligence expert and I understand their thinking to deal with this threat before it becomes much bigger but I disagree with this approach. Bear with me, as I approach both positions. I personally think this approach hurts Israel more than it helps them. If it was in retaliation for a specific attack by Iran, maybe it can be justified, but not just the aggressor. They've done this before years ago. Did it work then? I don't know. Who knows?

These types of attacks should only be used against someone who is personally involved in murdering your citizens, not a guy, often forced by government; to work on their governments ambitions. That had always been Israels position, before these nuclear ambitions, which seemed to have forced their hand.

First, say what you want about a man doing what he does for his country, but, he's just an employee. Some schlep hired by the government to help them. He isn't the decision maker, so you are just bombing regular citizens who are now martyred, even if he didn't want to be. He will be replaced by others and you buy, what, three months time?

Second, and this is a big deal, it allows the Iranian government to have more support for a hardline approach to enemies and ensures citizens rally around them. Even those who despise the Iranian government now feel an internal desire to assist them due to a foreign power murdering a citizen on their soil.

This cannot be overstated. It was the same issue with Palestinians who bombed an Israeli cafe years ago. One of the women they killed was actually an Israeli woman involved in a group seeking peace. That group, surely didn't have a stomach for such a position afterwards. Israel responded aggressively time and again by bombing terrorists, so, it hurt the terrorists and their cause far more than it hurt Israel.

Third, it provides the argument for their enemies to side with nations like China and to justify their own activities. I have little love lost for the Iranian government, but in the long run, I don't see how this hurts the Iranian government long term. They will retaliate, and we won't know about it. When you lose the higher ground you can rarely recover it.

From a practical standpoint, this attack was probably in the works for some time in the event Trump lost the election. Once Trump lost, Israel acted quickly. If Trump had clearly won, I wonder if they wouldn't have just allowed the U.S to apply pressure through Trump to bring Iran to the table for a more solid, secure deal for the region and world.

Israel has been quite clear, they simply do not want to deal with Iran under the old U.S/Iran nuclear terms. They have always told the world, "we will defend ourselves any way we deem necessary" and they have been outspoken about their dislike for the Iranian Nuclear Deal.

In fairness, we don't live in their neighbourhood, so we don't directly feel the impact of such a deal. I often wonder if the China alliance and some in the West willing to bend for the Communists hasn't clouded the judgement of negotiating with Iran from a position of weakness, even meekness. Maybe a more secure, reliable and enforceable deal could have avoided this. This might be a precursor of many such activities to come in the next few years.
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:


Let me fix that for you...

Iranian people are peace loving people.

The religious extremists mullahs on the other hand, are evil fanatics, very different from Iranian people.
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.

And the child has a tantrum on the internet.........you left wing asshats will shill for every mass murdering regime out there, then smear anyone who calls you out on it.........it would be simpler if you just allowed us to protect you and just said thank you.....
Fuck off! You can't protect yourself from the worst pandemic America has ever faced - NO not Covid but Trumpist ideology!

Blah, Blah, Blah, posts the Kiwi idiot who lives under the protection of the United States, lives under the innovative miracles of the United States, then bitches about everything we do to keep them safe....

Whiny ass little babies are all you morons are...........

If not for the U.S. you would be speaking Chinese and making I-phones in Chinese run labor camps.
You started with the bogeyman Muslim terrorists but having been sent packing with that you wheel out the Chinese bogeyman. How many more lurk in that insecure mental closet of yours?
 

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Probably Israel. They & Trump have started the assassination protocol if they don't like what another country is doing.

When our scientists & military leaders afre killed, you will know who to blame.
Fuck Iran. What are they gonna do? Launch their flotilla of bass fishing boats? :blowpop:
Mossad the Israeli Intelligence Service is no doubt responsible....again!

You are condoning murder and don't say itis justified cos of Iranian terrorism, the guy was a civilian.

These wrongdoings have a habit of coming back on the perpetrators, remember 9/11.
Some people deserve to be assassinated.
That's why Obama droned a U.S. citizen overseas.
Even he knew that!
Nobody 'deserves to be assassinated unless caught in the act of being about to kill someone else.
Designing a NUCLEAR BOMB to attack Israel with is an act of war he was a fair target.
Just because he was a nuclear scientist doesn't mean he was working on a nuclear bomb.
If there is evidence there are international institutions to deal with it. They may not always be that efficient but they are all we have got and sure beat uncivilised murder.

This was civilized killing, not murder. Murder would be if this guy was an innocent, but he worked for the leading state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

I swear, you fucking left wing asshats will fight tooth and nail to protect the worst monsters of the world, and then accuse good men and women of being the problem...

You are fucking insane.
No, you work for the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world the USA and the CIA who have been responsible for causing more wars and putting more despotic dictatorships killing their people since WWll.
than any other power in history.

You people from 2nd rate countries are so funny......you live in a world protected by the blood and treasure of the United States, keeping China from taking over your country and forcing you to all make I-phones, like the millenials living in your parents basement, eating snack foods and playing video games while the adults keep you safe and provide for your every need...

You really are cute when you are acting really stupid....
You support the illegal murder of civilians in foreign countries thus YOU ARE A TERRORIST!
I think that and your love of guns makes you particularly dangerous especially with a President you loath in office. The US authorities should keep a close eye on you before you 'turn' and become the next Timothy McVeigh.

Bidon taking away your guns would be a good first step.

And the child has a tantrum on the internet.........you left wing asshats will shill for every mass murdering regime out there, then smear anyone who calls you out on it.........it would be simpler if you just allowed us to protect you and just said thank you.....
Fuck off! You can't protect yourself from the worst pandemic America has ever faced - NO not Covid but Trumpist ideology!

Blah, Blah, Blah, posts the Kiwi idiot who lives under the protection of the United States, lives under the innovative miracles of the United States, then bitches about everything we do to keep them safe....

Whiny ass little babies are all you morons are...........

If not for the U.S. you would be speaking Chinese and making I-phones in Chinese run labor camps.
You started with the bogeyman Muslim terrorists but having been sent packing with that you wheel out the Chinese bogeyman. How many more lurk in that insecure mental closet of yours?

You left wingers are funny when you aren't filling mass graves with the innocent.....
 

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I'm no Intelligence expert and I understand their thinking to deal with this threat before it becomes much bigger but I disagree with this approach. Bear with me, as I approach both positions. I personally think this approach hurts Israel more than it helps them. If it was in retaliation for a specific attack by Iran, maybe it can be justified, but not just the aggressor. They've done this before years ago. Did it work then? I don't know. Who knows?

These types of attacks should only be used against someone who is personally involved in murdering your citizens, not a guy, often forced by government; to work on their governments ambitions. That had always been Israels position, before these nuclear ambitions, which seemed to have forced their hand.

First, say what you want about a man doing what he does for his country, but, he's just an employee. Some schlep hired by the government to help them. He isn't the decision maker, so you are just bombing regular citizens who are now martyred, even if he didn't want to be. He will be replaced by others and you buy, what, three months time?

Second, and this is a big deal, it allows the Iranian government to have more support for a hardline approach to enemies and ensures citizens rally around them. Even those who despise the Iranian government now feel an internal desire to assist them due to a foreign power murdering a citizen on their soil.

This cannot be overstated. It was the same issue with Palestinians who bombed an Israeli cafe years ago. One of the women they killed was actually an Israeli woman involved in a group seeking peace. That group, surely didn't have a stomach for such a position afterwards. Israel responded aggressively time and again by bombing terrorists, so, it hurt the terrorists and their cause far more than it hurt Israel.

Third, it provides the argument for their enemies to side with nations like China and to justify their own activities. I have little love lost for the Iranian government, but in the long run, I don't see how this hurts the Iranian government long term. They will retaliate, and we won't know about it. When you lose the higher ground you can rarely recover it.

From a practical standpoint, this attack was probably in the works for some time in the event Trump lost the election. Once Trump lost, Israel acted quickly. If Trump had clearly won, I wonder if they wouldn't have just allowed the U.S to apply pressure through Trump to bring Iran to the table for a more solid, secure deal for the region and world.

Israel has been quite clear, they simply do not want to deal with Iran under the old U.S/Iran nuclear terms. They have always told the world, "we will defend ourselves any way we deem necessary" and they have been outspoken about their dislike for the Iranian Nuclear Deal.

In fairness, we don't live in their neighbourhood, so we don't directly feel the impact of such a deal. I often wonder if the China alliance and some in the West willing to bend for the Communists hasn't clouded the judgement of negotiating with Iran from a position of weakness, even meekness. Maybe a more secure, reliable and enforceable deal could have avoided this. This might be a precursor of many such activities to come in the next few years.
Your logic is silly... If Bill Clinton had taken out Usama Bin Laden when he had a chance years before September 11 th then it never would have happened... By Israel or someone else taking out this guy they buy themselves more time for either the people of a Iran to remove this despicable government or some other means can be found to stop them... By the way Iran is not even ruled by a fellow Iranian and Iranians must hate that after all Khameni is from Azerbaijan so how much more do they despise the ones who rule them...
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:


Let me fix that for you...

Iranian people are peace loving people.

The religious extremists mullahs on the other hand, are evil fanatics, very different from Iranian people.
Let me fix it for you...

Trumpsters are the evil fanatics, very different from the normal Bidon peace-loving Americans.
 

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Iran is actually a peace loving country.
But the rogue state of Israel is constantly threatening and terrorizing Iran with illegal military airstrikes and assassinations. ... :cool:


Let me fix that for you...

Iranian people are peace loving people.

The religious extremists mullahs on the other hand, are evil fanatics, very different from Iranian people.
Let me fix it for you...

Trumpsters are the evil fanatics, very different from the normal Bidon peace-loving Americans.

who threw you peanuts?
 

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