INTRIGUE IN IRAN: U.S./Israel Murder Iranian Nuclear Scientist...

[Shogun]

well, you know... after the millionth utterance that the sky is falling...

 

[manifold]

Good clean kill

 

[manifold]

It's pretty obvious how certain opinions in this thread would differ were it isreali scientists being murdered by unknown motorcyclists.

You make it sound like if you don't cheer when the other team scores you're a hypocrite.

 

[Shogun]

It's pretty obvious how certain opinions in this thread would differ were it isreali scientists being murdered by unknown motorcyclists.

You make it sound like if you don't cheer when the other team scores you're a hypocrite.

rather, there is an inconsistency of standards that is laughably obvious in threads such as this. Cheering of a team implies a common set of equally applied rules anyway.

 

[manifold]

It's pretty obvious how certain opinions in this thread would differ were it isreali scientists being murdered by unknown motorcyclists.

You make it sound like if you don't cheer when the other team scores you're a hypocrite.

rather, there is an inconsistency of standards that is laughably obvious in threads such as this. Cheering of a team implies a common set of equally applied rules anyway.

I didn't read the thread, but inconsistency of standards is the standard for most here so I'll take your word for it.

As for the dead scientist, I won't be losing any sleep over his passing.

 

[Shogun]

You make it sound like if you don't cheer when the other team scores you're a hypocrite.

rather, there is an inconsistency of standards that is laughably obvious in threads such as this. Cheering of a team implies a common set of equally applied rules anyway.

I didn't read the thread, but inconsistency of standards is the standard for most here so I'll take your word for it.

As for the dead scientist, I won't be losing any sleep over his passing.

indeed. however, as I said, it's pretty obvious how different the posts of this thread would be were it an israeli scientist being bombed by mysterious motorcycle riders. The only real question is how many palestineans would have to eat cast lead shit in the aftermath.

I guess I hold a higher standard for killing people than you do. ho hum.

 

[manifold]

rather, there is an inconsistency of standards that is laughably obvious in threads such as this. Cheering of a team implies a common set of equally applied rules anyway.

I didn't read the thread, but inconsistency of standards is the standard for most here so I'll take your word for it.

As for the dead scientist, I won't be losing any sleep over his passing.

indeed. however, as I said, it's pretty obvious how different the posts of this thread would be were it an israeli scientist being bombed by mysterious motorcycle riders. The only real question is how many palestineans would have to eat cast lead shit in the aftermath.

I guess I hold a higher standard for killing people than you do. ho hum.

You prefer snipers?

 

[Shogun]

I prefer a pretense for killing that amounts to more than sand in a zionist vagina.

 

[manifold]

I prefer a pretense for killing that amounts to more than sand in a zionist vagina.

Such as?

 

[Shogun]

actual evidence of a violent intent against isreal, for one.

Is it too much to ask for more than mobile chem lab accusations when rationalizing the murder of foreign civilians?

 

[manifold]

actual evidence of a violent intent against isreal, for one.

Is it too much to ask for more than mobile chem lab accusations when rationalizing the murder of foreign civilians?

So you're going with the argument that there is no reason to believe Iran poses a violent threat toward Israel?

I thought you quit smoking the reefer.

 

[Shogun]

actual evidence of a violent intent against isreal, for one.

Is it too much to ask for more than mobile chem lab accusations when rationalizing the murder of foreign civilians?

So you're going with the argument that there is no reason to believe Iran poses a violent thread toward Israel?

I thought you quit smoking the reefer.

zionism /= israel

but, I guess you can assimilate whatever translation you want to already believe. Suffice it to say, the assumption of preemptive violence is a thread about the mysterious murders of scientists is, as they say, asinine.

it must be real boring around here these days for you to be so rusty at this.

 

[Shogun]

well mani... there were not enough worthwhile threads on this forum to keep me interested in waiting for your reply.

it's just a different place now.

Have a good evening anyway.

 

[Unkotare]

Tehran's Genocidal Incitement against Israel :: Middle East Quarterly

 

[georgephillip]

It may well be that the Iranian regime is crazy enough to believe either Israel or the US is a nuclear threat to the country, but whatever their reasons for for doing it, it is clear that Iran is developing long range missiles in order to threaten western Europe and the US with nuclear attack, and it would be irresponsible of western governments to allow them to realize this desire.

It is "clear" that Iran is developing long range missiles to terrorize Western Europe in the same way it was "clear" Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction. Two things are truly clear; the US and Israel possess thousands of nuclear weapons and both states are violating the UN Charter and SCR 1887 which specifically calls on all states to resolve disputes over nuclear issues peacefully and bans the use or threat of force.

The Iranian regime would be crazy if they didn't consider the US and Israel a threat to their country.

Israel and the US are threatening Iran because the regime is crazy. Neither country had any hostile intentions towards Iran, despite Iran's decades of supporting international terrorism and trying to destabilize its neighboring states, until the regime decided to make Iran a nuclear threat to Israel, the US and western Europe. The US may have been mistaken about Saddam's nukes, but, as events have proved, Saddam was crazy not to try to prove to us that he had none, and the Iranian regime is just as crazy as Saddam was to follow the same script he followed.

Do you consider the overthrow of a democratically elected prime minister evidence of hostile intentions?

"Mohammad Mosaddegh or Mosaddeq (Persian: مُحَمَد مُصَدِق, IPA: [mohæmˈmæd(-e) mosædˈdeɣ] ( listen)*), also spelled Mossadegh, Mossadeq, Mosadeck, or Musaddiq (16 June 1882 – 5 March 1967), was the Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 until being overthrown in a coup d'état.

"His administration introduced a wide range of social reforms but is most notable for its nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been under British control since 1913 through the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC/AIOC) (later British Petroleum or BP).

"Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup on 19 August 1953, organised and carried out by the United States CIA at the request of the British MI6 which chose Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Mosaddegh."

US foreign policy in the Middle East has been remarkably consistent since the end of WWII.
We have every intention of controlling Arab and Persian oil production and distribution, and we've proven that most recently with our occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mohammad Mosaddegh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

How many Iranians will be maimed, murdered and displaced?
Fewer than the millions of Iraqis who were "liberated?"

How many Iranians have been maimed, murdered and displaced by the Iranian regime and how many Lebanese, Israelis, Palestinian Arabs and now Syrians are being maimed, murdered and displaced by the Iranian regime? How many millions of people in the ME, western Europe and the US is the Iranian regime planning to threaten with its nuclear armed missiles?

How many millions of people around this planet has the US military killed since 1945?
How does that number compare to Iran's recent carnage?

There's little evidence Iran has any intention or capability to threaten the Middle East, Europe or the US with nuclear weapons. There are volumes of evidence attesting to US aggression from Korea, to Kosovo to Kandahar to???

 

[Unkotare]

How many Iranians will be maimed, murdered and displaced?
Fewer than the millions of Iraqis who were "liberated?"

How many Iranians have been maimed, murdered and displaced by the Iranian regime and how many Lebanese, Israelis, Palestinian Arabs and now Syrians are being maimed, murdered and displaced by the Iranian regime? How many millions of people in the ME, western Europe and the US is the Iranian regime planning to threaten with its nuclear armed missiles?

How many millions of people around this planet has the US military killed since 1945?

How many millions has the US saved, enabled an escape from poverty and oppression, and provided freedom and opportunity to?

 

[georgephillip]

Which country did you have in mind?

 

[Sunni Man]

How many millions has the US saved, enabled an escape from poverty and oppression, and provided freedom and opportunity to?

Does your list include our indigenous Native Americans?

 

[georgephillip]

How many millions has the US saved, enabled an escape from poverty and oppression, and provided freedom and opportunity to?

Does your list include our indigenous Native Americans?

I think we are limiting the discussion to post World War II.

Truman's counterinsurgency campaign in Greece during the late '40s killed of about 160,000 people, produced sixty thousand refugees with another 60,000 torture victims. The Greek political system was dismantled with, in some cases, Nazi collaborators being returned to power.

Chomsky labels it a war crime under the Nuremberg-Tokyo tribunals.

If the Nuremberg Laws were Applied..., by Noam Chomsky (Talk delivered around 1990)