In Israel's case, spoils won in a war they didn't start. Welcome to your consequences. Vae victus (a.k.a. "Eat shit and die")."No it wasn't. In both cases, a country tried to acquire land (that wasn't theirs) by force."Well now, that was sick. And also a very, very bad comparison.
"Mister Marshall has made his decision. Now, let him enforce it.""...Only now, it is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war..."
Newsflash: East Jerusalem is already Israel's, and will now be, forevermore. You don't get Jerusalem back. No way. Vae victus."...That's why East Jerusalem will never be Israel's..."
Of course, if you don't like that state of affairs, you are welcome to pick up a rifle and talk to the IDF about that, if you dare. But if you do, you won't have much company, other than the Palestinians themselves, nowadays.
Not really."...To allow Israel to keep any part of the OPT's, would be saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland..."
Vastly different background and underlying circumstances and conditions.
Apples and oranges.
The Jews ruled the Holy Land for a thousand years, stretching back into the 1200 BC - 120 AD timeframe, and the world has been trying to slaughter them for 2000 years since those times.
Euro-trash came close to doing just that - at least on the European continent - within living memory, but the Jews turned out to be tougher than anybody dreamed possible.
They carved out a reborn Israel for themselves on the soil of their old ancestral and spiritual homeland, beginning with the large blocs of land that they had purchased, and adding other parcels of land that they fought the Arabs for, when the Arabs attacked them, in order to exterminate the fledgling Jewish state.
A 2000-year-old Comeback Kid story - the most amazing of its kind in the entire History of Mankind, and one which has won the grudging admiration of much of the world - certainly the world beyond Islam - and which earns the Israelis a lot of behind-the-scenes credit, and friends, and which causes The West to cut the Israelis a lot more 'slack' than they would 'most anyone else.
The Arabs of Palestine are simply in the way - seen to be obstructing the last phase of the necessary and highly desirable Jewish Reconquista - and are being nudged out slowly but surely over the decades, to make room for the New Owners.
There are plenty of places for those Arabs to go, once they start behaving like rational human beings again rather than mad dogs, so that their neighbors would once again be willing to take-in large numbers of them, rather than fencing and walling them off and blockading those mad dogs alongside the Israelis.
As to lands acquired as Spoils of War durng the 1967 Six Day War - well, that's the price the Arabs pay for provoking Israel (with massive border mobilizations) in the first place.
But it DID play nicely into the hands of the Jewish Reconquista, didn't it?
Much of the non-Muslim world is perfectly willing to wink at the so-called violations of international law, in connection with Israeli land-grabs, because the Israelis do not yet have defensible permanent borders, and the Reconquista will correct that problem for them, for centuries and generations to come. Almost there, now.
The Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza have long-since been written off as losers and expendable, and, if the world at-large will (rightfully) not stand for their slaughter, the world at-large will nonetheless sit still for a great deal; including the land-grabs and the evictions and expulsions that are underway, and the larger-scale ones to come.
The silence of The West is its collective Penance and show of Goodwill directed towards those whom they have persecuted for centuries, and slaughtered in their millions within living memory. Many Muslims understand this, even if they don't agree with it, because they, too, have collectively persecuted and oppressed the Jews for centuries.
That's a tough act to follow, and your Palestinians don't have the street-cred to evoke the sympathies and goodwill of the world, in anything approximating the level of sympathy and goodwill extended to their adversaries; in effect, it's an impossible act to follow. It just ain't happenin'.
The world at-large (beyond Islam) is winking, or looking the other way, while this consolidation of Jewish land-holdings is underway, and, although, on paper, East Jerusalem and other land parcels are still theoretically 'on the table', nobody with the brains God gave an ant, or a lick of common sense, coupled with an understanding of the Reconquista and Israel's need for absolutely defensible borders, honestly expects one single sliver of such lands to be handed back to the Arabs.
Ain't gonna happen. And all the unicorn-and-rainbows hyper-legalist / hyper-literalist squawking and pig-squealing in the world isn't going to change that. You're welcome to try, of course. Good luck with that.
"The world community"?"...the world community will never do that."
Tell that to the Russians, in connection with the Crimea.
They're really scared of the 'international community' too, aren't they?
And isn't it interesting...
The Israelis have (supposedly, according to you-and-yours) been grabbing land that isn't theirs, by force, in violation of international law, since, what? 1948? 1967?
Where are the sanctions, by the United States, and the European Union, NATO, etc.?
The Russians just grabbed the Crimea last week, and the US and the EU and NATO are all a-flutter and talking sanctions, aren't they?
This contrast should tell you something about the way the Real World works, in the context of the Israel-Palestine 'Troubles'.
You pro-Palestinian types just don't get it... compared to other parts of the world where such things occur from time to time... nobody gives a rat's ass about the Palestinians.
You're on a fool's errand.
After what the Jews have been through in the 20th... indeed, the past 2000 years... people are, by-and-large, willing to look the other way - so long as they don't actually slaughter the Palestinians - while Israel completes its Reconquista.
The world-at-large has reached the long-overdue conclusion that the Jews, also, deserve a little piece of the earth - their old one, no less - and if they have to break a few eggs to make that omelette... oh well.
So it looks the other way (to any appreciable and effective extent, anyway, beyond the realm of lip-service or showmanship, designed to keep Arab oil flowing) while the chef is busy making the omelette.
Heckuva shell game, and great fun, too.
See how that works?
Rant and rail all you like - it won't change a damned thing.
International law, in connection with Israel's territorial spoils of war, after the Jews were provoked or attacked? The international community forcing Israel to relinquish those spoils acquired in defensive war? Don't make me laugh.
Consider it 'wergeld'.
Most of the grownups do - beyond the domains of Islam and its sympathizers and 'useful idiots', anyway.
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