International Law: Jerusalem Belongs To Israel

Well now, that was sick. And also a very, very bad comparison.
"No it wasn't. In both cases, a country tried to acquire land (that wasn't theirs) by force."
In Israel's case, spoils won in a war they didn't start. Welcome to your consequences. Vae victus (a.k.a. "Eat shit and die").

"...Only now, it is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war..."
"Mister Marshall has made his decision. Now, let him enforce it."

"...That's why East Jerusalem will never be Israel's..."
Newsflash: East Jerusalem is already Israel's, and will now be, forevermore. You don't get Jerusalem back. No way. Vae victus.

Of course, if you don't like that state of affairs, you are welcome to pick up a rifle and talk to the IDF about that, if you dare. But if you do, you won't have much company, other than the Palestinians themselves, nowadays.

"...To allow Israel to keep any part of the OPT's, would be saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland..."
Not really.

Vastly different background and underlying circumstances and conditions.

Apples and oranges.

The Jews ruled the Holy Land for a thousand years, stretching back into the 1200 BC - 120 AD timeframe, and the world has been trying to slaughter them for 2000 years since those times.

Euro-trash came close to doing just that - at least on the European continent - within living memory, but the Jews turned out to be tougher than anybody dreamed possible.

They carved out a reborn Israel for themselves on the soil of their old ancestral and spiritual homeland, beginning with the large blocs of land that they had purchased, and adding other parcels of land that they fought the Arabs for, when the Arabs attacked them, in order to exterminate the fledgling Jewish state.

A 2000-year-old Comeback Kid story - the most amazing of its kind in the entire History of Mankind, and one which has won the grudging admiration of much of the world - certainly the world beyond Islam - and which earns the Israelis a lot of behind-the-scenes credit, and friends, and which causes The West to cut the Israelis a lot more 'slack' than they would 'most anyone else.

The Arabs of Palestine are simply in the way - seen to be obstructing the last phase of the necessary and highly desirable Jewish Reconquista - and are being nudged out slowly but surely over the decades, to make room for the New Owners.

There are plenty of places for those Arabs to go, once they start behaving like rational human beings again rather than mad dogs, so that their neighbors would once again be willing to take-in large numbers of them, rather than fencing and walling them off and blockading those mad dogs alongside the Israelis.

As to lands acquired as Spoils of War durng the 1967 Six Day War - well, that's the price the Arabs pay for provoking Israel (with massive border mobilizations) in the first place.

But it DID play nicely into the hands of the Jewish Reconquista, didn't it?
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Much of the non-Muslim world is perfectly willing to wink at the so-called violations of international law, in connection with Israeli land-grabs, because the Israelis do not yet have defensible permanent borders, and the Reconquista will correct that problem for them, for centuries and generations to come. Almost there, now.

The Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza have long-since been written off as losers and expendable, and, if the world at-large will (rightfully) not stand for their slaughter, the world at-large will nonetheless sit still for a great deal; including the land-grabs and the evictions and expulsions that are underway, and the larger-scale ones to come.

The silence of The West is its collective Penance and show of Goodwill directed towards those whom they have persecuted for centuries, and slaughtered in their millions within living memory. Many Muslims understand this, even if they don't agree with it, because they, too, have collectively persecuted and oppressed the Jews for centuries.

That's a tough act to follow, and your Palestinians don't have the street-cred to evoke the sympathies and goodwill of the world, in anything approximating the level of sympathy and goodwill extended to their adversaries; in effect, it's an impossible act to follow. It just ain't happenin'.

The world at-large (beyond Islam) is winking, or looking the other way, while this consolidation of Jewish land-holdings is underway, and, although, on paper, East Jerusalem and other land parcels are still theoretically 'on the table', nobody with the brains God gave an ant, or a lick of common sense, coupled with an understanding of the Reconquista and Israel's need for absolutely defensible borders, honestly expects one single sliver of such lands to be handed back to the Arabs.

Ain't gonna happen. And all the unicorn-and-rainbows hyper-legalist / hyper-literalist squawking and pig-squealing in the world isn't going to change that. You're welcome to try, of course. Good luck with that.

"...the world community will never do that."
"The world community"?

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Tell that to the Russians, in connection with the Crimea.

They're really scared of the 'international community' too, aren't they?

And isn't it interesting...

The Israelis have (supposedly, according to you-and-yours) been grabbing land that isn't theirs, by force, in violation of international law, since, what? 1948? 1967?

Where are the sanctions, by the United States, and the European Union, NATO, etc.?

The Russians just grabbed the Crimea last week, and the US and the EU and NATO are all a-flutter and talking sanctions, aren't they?

This contrast should tell you something about the way the Real World works, in the context of the Israel-Palestine 'Troubles'.

You pro-Palestinian types just don't get it... compared to other parts of the world where such things occur from time to time... nobody gives a rat's ass about the Palestinians.

You're on a fool's errand.

After what the Jews have been through in the 20th... indeed, the past 2000 years... people are, by-and-large, willing to look the other way - so long as they don't actually slaughter the Palestinians - while Israel completes its Reconquista.

The world-at-large has reached the long-overdue conclusion that the Jews, also, deserve a little piece of the earth - their old one, no less - and if they have to break a few eggs to make that omelette... oh well.

So it looks the other way (to any appreciable and effective extent, anyway, beyond the realm of lip-service or showmanship, designed to keep Arab oil flowing) while the chef is busy making the omelette.

Heckuva shell game, and great fun, too.

See how that works?

Rant and rail all you like - it won't change a damned thing.

International law, in connection with Israel's territorial spoils of war, after the Jews were provoked or attacked? The international community forcing Israel to relinquish those spoils acquired in defensive war? Don't make me laugh.

Consider it 'wergeld'.

Most of the grownups do - beyond the domains of Islam and its sympathizers and 'useful idiots', anyway.
 
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Well now, that was sick. And also a very, very bad comparison.
"No it wasn't. In both cases, a country tried to acquire land (that wasn't theirs) by force."
In Israel's case, spoils won in a war they didn't start. Welcome to your consequences. Vae victus (a.k.a. "Eat shit and die").


"Mister Marshall has made his decision. Now, let him enforce it."


Newsflash: East Jerusalem is already Israel's, and will now be, forevermore. You don't get Jerusalem back. No way. Vae victus.

Of course, if you don't like that state of affairs, you are welcome to pick up a rifle and talk to the IDF about that, if you dare. But if you do, you won't have much company, other than the Palestinians themselves, nowadays.

"...To allow Israel to keep any part of the OPT's, would be saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland..."
Not really.

Vastly different background and underlying circumstances and conditions.

Apples and oranges.

The Jews ruled the Holy Land for a thousand years, stretching back into the 1200 BC - 120 AD tiemframe, and the world has been trying to slaughter them for 2000 years since those times.

Euro-trash came close to doing just that - at least on the European continent - within living memory, but the Jews turned out to be tougher than anybody dreamed possible.

They carved out a reborn Israel for themselves on the soil of their old ancestral and spiritual homeland, beginning with the large blocs of land that they had purchased, and adding other parcels of land that they fought the Arabs for, when the Arabs attacked them, in order to exterminate the fledgling Jewish state.

A 2000-year-old Comeback Kid story - the most amazing of its kind in the entire History of Mankind, and one which has won the grudging admiration of much of the world - certainly the world beyond Islam - and which earns the Israelis a lot of behind-the-scenes credit, and friends, and which causes The West to cut the Israelis a lot more 'slack' than they would 'most anyone else.

The Arabs of Palestine are simply in the way - seen to be obstructing the last phase of the necessary and highly desirable Jewish Reconquista - and are being nudged out slowly but surely over the decades, to make room for the New Owners.

There are plenty of places for those Arabs to go, once they start behaving like rational human beings again rather than mad dogs, so that their neighbors would once again be willing to take-in large numbers of them, rather than fencing and walling them off and blockading those mad dogs alongside the Israelis.

As to lands acquired as Spoils of War durng the 1967 Six Day War - well, that's the price the Arabs pay for provoking Israel (with massive border mobilizations) in the first place.

But it DID play nicely into the hands of the Jewish Reconquista, didn't it?
wink_smile.gif


Much of the non-Muslim world is perfectly willing to wink at the so-called violations of international law, in connection with Israeli land-grabs, because the Israelis do not yet have defensible permanent borders, and the Reconquista will correct that problem for them, for centuries and generations to come. Almost there, now.

The Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza have long-since been written off as losers and expendable, and, if the world at-large will (rightfully) not stand for their slaughter, the world at-large will nonetheless sit still for a great deal; including the land-grabs and the evictions and expulsions that are underway, and the larger-scale ones to come.

The world at-large (beyond Islam) is winking, or looking the other way, while this consolidation is underway, and, although, on paper, East Jerusalem and other land parcels are still theoretically 'on the table', nobody with the brains God gave an ant, or a lick of common sense, coupled with an understanding of the needs of the Reconquista, honestly expects one single sliver of such territory to be voluntarily turned back over to the Arabs.

Ain't gonna happen. And all the unicorn-and-rainbows hyper-literalist squawking and sqealing in the world isn't going to change that. You're welcome to try. Good luck with that.

"...the world community will never do that."
"The world community?"

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Tell that to the Russians, in connection with the Crimea.

They're really scared of the 'international community' too, aren't they?

And isn't it interesting...

The Israelis have (supposedly, according to you-and-yours) been grabbing land that isn't theirs, by force, in violation of international law, since, what? 1948? 1967?

Where are the sanctions, by the United States, and the European Union, NATO, etc.?

The Russians just grabbed the Ukraine last week, and they're all a-flutter and talking sanctions, aren't they?

You pro-Palestinian types just don't get it... compared to other parts of the world where such things occur from time to time... nobody gives a rat's ass about the Palestinians.

After what the Jews have been through in the 20th... indeed, the past 2000 years... people are, by-and-large, willing to look the other way - so long as they don't actually slaughter the Palestinians - while Israel completes its Reconquista.

The world-at-large has reached the long-overdue conclusion that the Jews, also, deserve a little piece of the earth - their old one, no less - and if they have to break a few eggs to make that omelette... oh well... look the other way, until the cooking is done.

See how that works?

Rant and rail all you like - it won't change a damned thing.

International law, in connection with Israel's territorial spoils of war? The international community forcing Israel to relinquish those spoils? Don't make me laugh.

I take it you have noticed the flurry of UN resolutions regarding Russia's occupation of Ukraine. :lol:
 
No.

Yerushalayim belongs to Israel proper. End of story. The history is quite clear for all to read.
Over 100 UN resolutions say you're full of shit.


Just to think that any human being would now want to equate Israelis, most of whom are Jews, with Hitler in any way, is just disgusting.
Why is it disgusting?

The Israeli's treat the Palestinian's, like the Nazis treated the Jews. Not the full blown death camp period, but the 10 years leading up to that is similar to how the Pals are treated now.

- they're treated like they are sub-human
- they're demonized at every turn
- they're blamed for everything that is wrong in the country
- violence against them is accepted, defended and considered necessary
- Zionists created the "Jewish State"; Nazis created the Aryan nation
- both country's are trying to ethnically cleanse their nation of these people

Your logic is sick, it is riddled with holes, and it is disgusting. And I have more than 6,000,000 REAL reasons from the history of 1933-1945 to disagree with you.
Israel's treatment of the Palestinian's, has made all the lives that were lost in the Holocaust, to have now died in vane. You are shitting on their graves.

Your kind of behaviour is a part of the Extreme-Left with which I will never associate my name, ever.

*spit*
You got a problem with international law and human rights?

I really don't give a shit!






100 UN resolutions you say, shall we take a closer look at them. 1 in 1947 that reneged on the promise made under the mandate of Palestine by anti semitic Jew haters. And then 99 brought by Islamic nations with the sole intention of branding Israel and the Jews as worse that the Nazi's.

Because there is no correlation at all, the Jews have not built the concentration camps and instigated a final solution. But the arab muslims have and the world has seen them.

They act like they are sub-human when they murder children
By their own people mostly, who detest them. So much so that the term Palestinians is a swear word
They are to blame at the end of the day, it was the arab Palestinians that started the wars remember.
Only in retaliation to their violence against Israeli civilians, stop the belligerence and you live in peace.
No the League of nations created the Israeli nation with the help of the British and the UN, Just as they created Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan. Which all show Nazi tendencies and worship Hitler.
So is the population of Palestinians dropping which is what would happen if they were being ethnically cleansed, or is it increasing with one of the highest surviving birth rates in the world.

NO that would be you carrying on the final solution disguised as concern for the Palestinians. At the end of the day your rhetoric would not be out of place in some 1935 Beer Kellar in Berlin.

Do you actually care about the human rights of the Jews and having international law apply to them equally as much as you pretend to with the Palestinians. In your opinion the Jews should not retaliate to illegal chemical and biological weapons fired at their children but should leave their homes and walk onto the knives of the terrorists.


YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A POS TERRORIST APPEASING NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATER.
 
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The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was signed on 25 August 1933 after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany (die Zionistische Vereinigung für Deutschland), the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. The agreement was designed to help facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. While it helped Jews emigrate, it forced them to give up most of their possessions to Germany before departing. Those assets could later be obtained by transferring them to Palestine as German export goods.[1][2]






So you are against the migration of a group under threat to a place of safety. To a land promised under the League of nations mandate of Palestine.
How about Husseini's letter to Hitler asking him to send him more Jews as he had ran out of live ones ?

But how about this from your link that turns your meaning on its head

The Haavara Agreement was thought among certain circles to be a possible way to rid the country of its supposed "Jewish problem." The head of the Middle Eastern division of the foreign ministry, Werner Otto von Hentig, supported the policy of concentrating Jews in Palestine. Von Hentig believed that if the Jewish population was concentrated in a single foreign entity, then foreign diplomatic policy and containment of the Jews would become easier.[
 
Long before the UN vote to re-establish Israel as a Jewish homeland, the land was already Israel's since antiquity. Thousands of years before any Muslims at all. Now the Muslim Palestinians have been squatting on it for generations. So tell us what valid claims the Palestinians have for any part of Jerusalem?



No it wasn't. In both cases, a country tried to acquire land (that wasn't theirs) by force.

Only now, it is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.

That's why East Jerusalem will never be Israel's.

To allow Israel to keep any part of the OPT's, would be saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland and the world community will never do that.
!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...





Which you can not prove as the evidence says otherwise. The land was so sparsely populated that even the Ottomans had to import people into Palestine, who stayed for a while and then left. The recent evidence shows that many "Palestinians" arrived between 1850 and today, while the Jews had lived in Palestine for 3,500 years uninterrupted.
If east Jerusalem was owned by Jewish people then under the UN charter they can return and claim the land, thus owning East Jerusalem. To give up any of the occupied land would be a death sentence for the Palestinians when they attacked.
 
Long before the UN vote to re-establish Israel as a Jewish homeland, the land was already Israel's since antiquity. Thousands of years before any Muslims at all. Now the Muslim Palestinians have been squatting on it for generations. So tell us what valid claims the Palestinians have for any part of Jerusalem?
!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...
1500 years? Bullcrap. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as of 1967, are recent 20th century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.




He is using quotation marks to make it look like 1500 years, when in reality it is ! 500 years. Devious and underhanded way of LYING
 
What, no Muslim Palestinians claiming Israel is "their land"?




!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...
1500 years? Bullcrap. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as of 1967, are recent 20th century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.



Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.
 
!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...
1500 years? Bullcrap. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as of 1967, are recent 20th century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.



Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.




When you do a fuller analysis of the DNA you find that it ties the Palestinians to other parts of the M.E in recent times. Genetic markers that would be lost in under 4 generations are still present in most Palestinians, with very few having the Cohen genetic marker that shows a distinct link to the land of Palestine going back 4,000 years.

Now try again using an unbiased source for your evidence here is a list of those that wrote the article you are linking to.


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Study International Relations and Economic dynamics...As far as fairy tales, we could evoke the adventures of Toastman on a flying bagel avenging Zionuts in a flea market...

Will you sign a contract?

Why did you get so offended? All I did was suggest a potential career you . If youre good at something, try and use it to make a living.
Best of luck to you Pbel!!

Who's offended? I think Toastman on a flying (toasted) bagel with locks and cream cheese could make millions! Can't wait to run to Elliot's in Stoughton!

I like you Toast except for your Politics in which you ply bull for Israel...look to the future and see that if Israel is not accepted by the Muslims she will disintegrate in a warm war of attrition which have thus far defeated all comers from the West...

Read your history books.





Your people said this 66 years ago and Israel is still going strong. Now because of civil war in the are Israel has even less to fear.
 
Long before the UN vote to re-establish Israel as a Jewish homeland, the land was already Israel's since antiquity. Thousands of years before any Muslims at all. Now the Muslim Palestinians have been squatting on it for generations. So tell us what valid claims the Palestinians have for any part of Jerusalem?



No it wasn't. In both cases, a country tried to acquire land (that wasn't theirs) by force.

Only now, it is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.

That's why East Jerusalem will never be Israel's.

To allow Israel to keep any part of the OPT's, would be saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland and the world community will never do that.
!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...

3500+ years jews have lived there. The numbers might have varied but there have always been jews there. Occupation, governments, crusaders, invaders have come and gone, but the jews have always been there.
 
Why did you get so offended? All I did was suggest a potential career you . If youre good at something, try and use it to make a living.
Best of luck to you Pbel!!

Who's offended? I think Toastman on a flying (toasted) bagel with locks and cream cheese could make millions! Can't wait to run to Elliot's in Stoughton!

I like you Toast except for your Politics in which you ply bull for Israel...look to the future and see that if Israel is not accepted by the Muslims she will disintegrate in a warm war of attrition which have thus far defeated all comers from the West...

Read your history books.





Your people said this 66 years ago and Israel is still going strong. Now because of civil war in the are Israel has even less to fear.

Phoeney-all you are a simpleton's apprentice...Tell us, when these civil wars finish, will the winners love Israel?
 
Who's offended? I think Toastman on a flying (toasted) bagel with locks and cream cheese could make millions! Can't wait to run to Elliot's in Stoughton!

I like you Toast except for your Politics in which you ply bull for Israel...look to the future and see that if Israel is not accepted by the Muslims she will disintegrate in a warm war of attrition which have thus far defeated all comers from the West...

Read your history books.





Your people said this 66 years ago and Israel is still going strong. Now because of civil war in the are Israel has even less to fear.

Phoeney-all you are a simpleton's apprentice...Tell us, when these civil wars finish, will the winners love Israel?





Why should they it is commanded by their gods allah and Mohamed to "KILL THE JEWS". But more to the point will they be up for the fight after losing so much in the civil wars they started. Will they be able to muster many fighters prepared to go for another prolonged war against an enemy that will use conventional weapons against them to their full advantage. They have tried 5 times and failed, so what makes you think that they will succeed this time ?


I see that you are on the ropes and have started immature personal attacks, shows that you are losing the argument.
 
Your people said this 66 years ago and Israel is still going strong. Now because of civil war in the are Israel has even less to fear.

Phoeney-all you are a simpleton's apprentice...Tell us, when these civil wars finish, will the winners love Israel?





Why should they it is commanded by their gods allah and Mohamed to "KILL THE JEWS". But more to the point will they be up for the fight after losing so much in the civil wars they started. Will they be able to muster many fighters prepared to go for another prolonged war against an enemy that will use conventional weapons against them to their full advantage. They have tried 5 times and failed, so what makes you think that they will succeed this time ?


I see that you are on the ropes and have started immature personal attacks, shows that you are losing the argument.

Maybe you're right about personal attacks, but I lose no argument...Israel will never win the final battle for Palestine...yes Israel has won many battles, but if she loses once the hate generated by her will guarantee nastiness...
 
!500 hundred years of residency by Palestinians...
1500 years? Bullcrap. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as of 1967, are recent 20th century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.



Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.
Origin and Identity of the So-Called "Palestinians"

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.
 
1500 years? Bullcrap. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as of 1967, are recent 20th century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.



Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.
Origin and Identity of the So-Called "Palestinians"

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

Its really pitiful when you use a Zionist commentary to refute an exact science.
 
Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.
Origin and Identity of the So-Called "Palestinians"

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

Its really pitiful when you use a Zionist commentary to refute an exact science.

Its really pitiful when you have pro Palestinians like yourself who say Israel and Zionism is responsible for Arab Muslim bloodshed in the ME.
 
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Origin and Identity of the So-Called "Palestinians"

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

Its really pitiful when you use a Zionist commentary to refute an exact science.

Its really pitiful when you have pro Palestinians like yourself who say Israel and Zionism is responsible for Arab Muslim bloodshed in the ME.

Stop plagiarizing my expressions, unless you want to do the Toastman flying on a bagel skit!
 
Its really pitiful when you use a Zionist commentary to refute an exact science.

Its really pitiful when you have pro Palestinians like yourself who say Israel and Zionism is responsible for Arab Muslim bloodshed in the ME.

Stop plagiarizing my expressions, unless you want to do the Toastman flying on a bagel skit!

Stop with Jewish stereotypes
 
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