Intelligence Committee To Petition FISA Court

Do any of you KNOW any FBI Agents?

I do. A few. And a federal prosecutor.

They are incredible tight asses and sticklers for the rules down to the smallest detail. You have to imagine an incredibly smart boy scout who is super diligent and detail oriented, he considers rigorous honesty in all matters to be the most important thing in life. Fudging details the way a city cop might, is not in their nature.

The saying about FEEBs… "they do great paper." They are incredibly gifted at following the most elusive paper trails….

That's what scares the shit outta Trump.

They are almost all Republicans.

They own guns and support universal background checks.

They are honorable and good people.

Mr. Nunes, have you no sense of Decency?

I think you'll be hell bent to find any conservative say ALL FBI or ALL DOJ. We are talking about a few key players on top here.

Don't try to Clintonize what Republicans are saying. There are bad people in every large organization. There are bad cops, bad teachers, bad priests, but they are anomalies and not the epitome of their groups.
 
What point are you trying to make?

The Dossier was used in the 3 other applications and the FISA Court
wasn't told it was paid and financed by the DNC and Clinton Campaign.

They hid that from the court. That makes the 3 extensions illegal and very
possibly an abuse of the 4th amendment rights of anybody monitored.

Thus, you can kiss that special counsel goodbye, once SCOTUS has
this presented to them. They'll have no choice, because the FBI/SC
will never be able to distinguish one from the other.
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.
 
If the accusation is true that it was hidden in a footnote and only was written in very generalized ambiguous language, that is worse than Omitting it Entirely, because it shows EVASION by THE FBI in addressing what can only be considered THE MOST CRUCIAL FACTS about THE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA DOSSIER.

THE FACT CLINTON AND OBAMA PAID FOR IT... Paid for a Political Hit on Trump by using Russian Propaganda, should be FRONT AND CENTER, not buried in FINE PRINT in a FOOTNOTE, in a DOCUMENT 100s of pages LONG.

The INTENT THEN was to BURY IT, OBSCURE IT, and some how give THE FBI some kind of WEAK DEFENSE.....that they actually disclosed it, when, placing it in a footnote, saying it "might be of a political nature," when they KNEW BOTH THE NATURE, THE SOURCE OF FUNDING, AND THAT IT WAS PAID FOR BY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN, Was generated by The KGB, and sold to Steele who paid The Kremlin a lot of money for it, DNC MONEY, and they STILL HID THAT FACT....TOTALLY BLOWS THIS OUT OF THE WATER.

If the accusation is true that it was hidden in a footnote and only was written in very generalized ambiguous language, that is worse than Omitting it Entirely, because it shows EVASION by THE FBI in addressing what can only be considered THE MOST CRUCIAL FACTS about THE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA DOSSIER.


yes the grassley memo outlines this

2018-02-06 CEG LG to DOJ FBI (Unclassified Steele Referral) | Federal Bureau Of Investigation | United States Government
 
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.

It also seems to me that the FBI didn't inform the courts that since the original filing, they fired Steele and didn't even pay him because his information was so questionable and that he shared it with the media.

I would think that if they filed for an extension of their warrant, told the court that their main information was compromised, that there is no way in hell they would have reissued the surveillance warrant three different times.
 
Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.

It also seems to me that the FBI didn't inform the courts that since the original filing, they fired Steele and didn't even pay him because his information was so questionable and that he shared it with the media.

I would think that if they filed for an extension of their warrant, told the court that their main information was compromised, that there is no way in hell they would have reissued the surveillance warrant three different times.
This is becoming Barry's and Hillarys Watergate with Tuesday's news of this matter
 
Those who have carefully read the Nunes memo will notice that it never says the application to monitor Carter Page was illegal.

What point are you trying to make?

The Dossier was used in the 3 other applications and the FISA Court
wasn't told it was paid and financed by the DNC and Clinton Campaign.

They hid that from the court. That makes the 3 extensions illegal and very
possibly an abuse of the 4th amendment rights of anybody monitored.

Thus, you can kiss that special counsel goodbye, once SCOTUS has
this presented to them. They'll have no choice, because the FBI/SC
will never be able to distinguish one from the other.
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
There are no gray areas in applications.
A lot of folks here may have been born at night, but 'tweren't none of us born last night. To wit....

The matter of what does and does not constitute probable cause for obtaining authorization to conduct intrusive forms of surveillance such as wiretapping is itself gray. There is no trial and there is no absolute correctness to any given assertion that "such and such" constitutes probable cause that warrants law enforcement organizations, in the course of investigating whether criminal acts were by someone(s) committed, to invade one's privacy. What entails due probable cause in one matter, at one point in time, for a given set of circumstances, etc. may or may not constitute it in others.

That such forms of surveillance/investigation as wiretapping, searching private residences, and mail interception are intrusive on one's privacy is precisely why law enforcement organizations (LEO) are required to obtain from judges warrants to do so: it is the judiciary's job to determine whether the surveillance action is or is not in compliance with the law. Moreover, a citizen's abstract right to communicative subject matter privacy with regard to their non-governmental expressions is considered violable for only 90 days when LEO obtain a warrant of the sort the FBI obtained to surveil Carter Page. Accordingly, the FBI had to, and did, reapply to the FISC for surveillance authorization of Carter Page three times after its first application. Each subsequent application had to show -- to the satisfaction of the authorized top level officials in the FBI and in the DoJ and the presiding jurist for each application -- that (1) the previous use of the prior warranted observation tactics bore fruit, as it were, and (2) that the probable cause militating for implementing such tactics was ongoing, thus the then-current application's raison d'etre. (Click on the link for the FISC's procedural rules found at the end of this post.)

Quite simply, FISA warrants are not doled out as one might Halloween candy. Furthermore, "There are 11 federal judges on the FISC, and they take cases on a rotating basis and at least seven of them must come from different judicial districts/circuits. The judges deal with non-FISA cases and are selected for the additional responsibility of the FISA court by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. That is hardly the beginning and end of the checks and balances in the FISA warrant application process. Another, for example, is the burden of justification (not proof; if LEO had proof of a crime's commission and who committed it, they wouldn't need a search/observation warrant, nor would they need to conduct investigative activities) for subsequent warrant applications being "stepped-up" from that of the initial application.

Additional References:
 
What point are you trying to make?

The Dossier was used in the 3 other applications and the FISA Court
wasn't told it was paid and financed by the DNC and Clinton Campaign.

They hid that from the court. That makes the 3 extensions illegal and very
possibly an abuse of the 4th amendment rights of anybody monitored.

Thus, you can kiss that special counsel goodbye, once SCOTUS has
this presented to them. They'll have no choice, because the FBI/SC
will never be able to distinguish one from the other.
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
There are no gray areas in applications.
A lot of folks here may have been born at night, but 'tweren't none of us born last night. To wit....

The matter of what does and does not constitute probable cause for obtaining authorization to conduct intrusive forms of surveillance such as wiretapping is itself gray. There is no trial and there is no absolute correctness to any given assertion that "such and such" constitutes probable cause that warrants law enforcement organizations, in the course of investigating whether criminal acts were by someone(s) committed, to invade one's privacy. What entails due probable cause in one matter, at one point in time, for a given set of circumstances, etc. may or may not constitute it in others.

That such forms of surveillance/investigation as wiretapping, searching private residences, and mail interception are intrusive on one's privacy is precisely why law enforcement organizations (LEO) are required to obtain from judges warrants to do so: it is the judiciary's job to determine whether the surveillance action is or is not in compliance with the law. Moreover, a citizen's abstract right to communicative subject matter privacy with regard to their non-governmental expressions is considered violable for only 90 days when LEO obtain a warrant of the sort the FBI obtained to surveil Carter Page. Accordingly, the FBI had to, and did, reapply to the FISC for surveillance authorization of Carter Page three times after its first application. Each subsequent application had to show -- to the satisfaction of the authorized top level officials in the FBI and in the DoJ and the presiding jurist for each application -- that (1) the previous use of the prior warranted observation tactics bore fruit, as it were, and (2) that the probable cause militating for implementing such tactics was ongoing, thus the then-current application's raison d'etre. (Click on the link for the FISC's procedural rules found at the end of this post.)

Quite simply, FISA warrants are not doled out as one might Halloween candy. Furthermore, "There are 11 federal judges on the FISC, and they take cases on a rotating basis and at least seven of them must come from different judicial districts/circuits. The judges deal with non-FISA cases and are selected for the additional responsibility of the FISA court by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. That is hardly the beginning and end of the checks and balances in the FISA warrant application process. Another, for example, is the burden of justification (not proof; if LEO had proof of a crime's commission and who committed it, they wouldn't need a search/observation warrant, nor would they need to conduct investigative activities) for subsequent warrant applications being "stepped-up" from that of the initial application.

Additional References:


Too late for that much Malarkey Einstien.
Cut back on the Crank.
 
This is becoming Barry's and Hillarys Watergate with Tuesday's news of this matter
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What point are you trying to make?

The Dossier was used in the 3 other applications and the FISA Court
wasn't told it was paid and financed by the DNC and Clinton Campaign.

They hid that from the court. That makes the 3 extensions illegal and very
possibly an abuse of the 4th amendment rights of anybody monitored.

Thus, you can kiss that special counsel goodbye, once SCOTUS has
this presented to them. They'll have no choice, because the FBI/SC
will never be able to distinguish one from the other.
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh> I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.
Off-Topic:
To the extent the member continues on that line after your having so shown gives us incontrovertible proof of the member's adamantine intransigence.​
 
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That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
There are no gray areas in applications.
A lot of folks here may have been born at night, but 'tweren't none of us born last night. To wit....

The matter of what does and does not constitute probable cause for obtaining authorization to conduct intrusive forms of surveillance such as wiretapping is itself gray. There is no trial and there is no absolute correctness to any given assertion that "such and such" constitutes probable cause that warrants law enforcement organizations, in the course of investigating whether criminal acts were by someone(s) committed, to invade one's privacy. What entails due probable cause in one matter, at one point in time, for a given set of circumstances, etc. may or may not constitute it in others.

That such forms of surveillance/investigation as wiretapping, searching private residences, and mail interception are intrusive on one's privacy is precisely why law enforcement organizations (LEO) are required to obtain from judges warrants to do so: it is the judiciary's job to determine whether the surveillance action is or is not in compliance with the law. Moreover, a citizen's abstract right to communicative subject matter privacy with regard to their non-governmental expressions is considered violable for only 90 days when LEO obtain a warrant of the sort the FBI obtained to surveil Carter Page. Accordingly, the FBI had to, and did, reapply to the FISC for surveillance authorization of Carter Page three times after its first application. Each subsequent application had to show -- to the satisfaction of the authorized top level officials in the FBI and in the DoJ and the presiding jurist for each application -- that (1) the previous use of the prior warranted observation tactics bore fruit, as it were, and (2) that the probable cause militating for implementing such tactics was ongoing, thus the then-current application's raison d'etre. (Click on the link for the FISC's procedural rules found at the end of this post.)

Quite simply, FISA warrants are not doled out as one might Halloween candy. Furthermore, "There are 11 federal judges on the FISC, and they take cases on a rotating basis and at least seven of them must come from different judicial districts/circuits. The judges deal with non-FISA cases and are selected for the additional responsibility of the FISA court by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. That is hardly the beginning and end of the checks and balances in the FISA warrant application process. Another, for example, is the burden of justification (not proof; if LEO had proof of a crime's commission and who committed it, they wouldn't need a search/observation warrant, nor would they need to conduct investigative activities) for subsequent warrant applications being "stepped-up" from that of the initial application.

Additional References:


Too late for that much Malarkey Einstien.
Cut back on the Crank.
Were you to read the post and the linked content, you'd discover that is not malarkey. Malarkey has nothing to do with the quantity of words one uses to express an idea; it has to do with the nature of the point(s) the words make.
 
^^^^Spoon feed me Chief. I am too lazy to work that hard at this entertainment-learning center. Give bite sized chunks or I wander.

I do like this one from you......"adamantine intransigence"

simply amazing.
 
^^^^Spoon feed me Chief. I am too lazy to work that hard at this entertainment-learning center. Give bite sized chunks or I wander.
Well, I'm sorry that's the case, but I generally try to express myself and my thinking in a fairly complete way. That's how I was taught to do so, and it's unlikely that I'll soon stop doing so.

FWIW, in verbal communication, I'm often notably less comprehensive; however, the reasons for that are:
  • In settings where I communicate verbally, nobody in the audience presumes they know more about the matter I'm discussion than do I, though some rightly presume they of the matter know as much as I. The very reason for them being in the audience, more often than not, is that they acknowledge me as an authority on the matter they've paid to have me discuss and they presume I will provide insights they don't already possess.
  • I'm just not willing to risk that something I wrote and shared publicly be misinterpreted by people who have strong reading skills. As go folks having mediocre to weak reading and/critical thinking skills, well, I don't much care what they think. (Don't get any idea that I'm implying you fall into either group; I'm not. Why would I? You were very clear: the reason for your remarks is indolence not ignorance, and I have no basis for thinking you are cognitively deficient. The differences among those traits is not at all lost on me.)

I do like this one from you......"adamantine intransigence"
Thank you.
 
That was not hidden from the court, Nunes duped you...

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.
Nice attempt at diversion, but we were discussing if the FBI informed the FISC of the orgins of the dossier, not its veracity.

And as you’ve been shown repeatedly, the FBI disclosed the political origins of the dossier. Your hollow denials cannot alter that.
 
Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.

It also seems to me that the FBI didn't inform the courts that since the original filing, they fired Steele and didn't even pay him because his information was so questionable and that he shared it with the media.

I would think that if they filed for an extension of their warrant, told the court that their main information was compromised, that there is no way in hell they would have reissued the surveillance warrant three different times.

Correct.

Which is why the FBI never told them.
 
Devin duped me? Well, when he stops by tonight I will inform him of
that.

btw...Nobody disclosed that the memo was bought and paid for by the
DNC and the Clinton Campaign. That's a pretty big omission.
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.
Nice attempt at diversion, but we were discussing if the FBI informed the FISC of the orgins of the dossier, not its veracity.

And as you’ve been shown repeatedly, the FBI disclosed the political origins of the dossier. Your hollow denials cannot alter that.

Keep trying, but the fact is, y'all are on the wrong side of history
here.

They didn't tell the FISA Court that...

Rge Clinton Campaign/DNC paid for it.

That the they (FBI) had refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying

That the Ohr's were feeding the information to the Dossier

That Clinton stooge Blumenthal was giving info to Steele.

Before this fucking thing is over you people will be lucky if you
don't lose seats in California and New York.
 
Oh? What part of the following is too difficult for you to comprehend...?

Republicans concede key FBI 'footnote' in Carter Page warrant

Devin Nunes said Monday the FBI had disclosed political backing for a Trump-Russia dossier in October 2016, but a controversial GOP memo released last week did not mention it.

Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions.

They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.

It also seems to me that the FBI didn't inform the courts that since the original filing, they fired Steele and didn't even pay him because his information was so questionable and that he shared it with the media.

I would think that if they filed for an extension of their warrant, told the court that their main information was compromised, that there is no way in hell they would have reissued the surveillance warrant three different times.

Correct.

Which is why the FBI never told them.
The FBI applied for the warrant before firing Steele. Next lie...?
 
They did not inform the FISA Court that the dossier was financed and
paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign.

There are no gray areas in applications. They are all black and white.
No Court is going to "assume" or "read between the lines."

If a lawyer wants something to be read between the lines, he damn well
better have some words between the lines.

The FBI and DOJ both believed they needed the extra weight of the Dossier
to continue to get extensions. The FBI and DOJ both believed that if they
told the court it was a political hit piece paid for by the DNC/Clinton Campaign, the court would not issue the extensions.

So they created the omission, which now that it has been discovered is
going to taint and probably destroy their entire case.
<smh>

I just fucking showed you they disclosed the political origins of the dossier. That you still can’t understand that is on you.

Nope...you haven't shown shit. The Grassley-Graham criminal referral
on Steele to the DOJ has just been partially unredacted and even that referral
points to the fact that the FBI never told the FISA Court that Steele
was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

The referral is even better because the FBI refused to pay Steele because they knew he was lying to them, and then a week later they returned to the
FISA Court and still vouched for Steele's credibility, to get an extension on the FISA Warrant.

Sorry, but the lies are crumbling around you.

It also seems to me that the FBI didn't inform the courts that since the original filing, they fired Steele and didn't even pay him because his information was so questionable and that he shared it with the media.

I would think that if they filed for an extension of their warrant, told the court that their main information was compromised, that there is no way in hell they would have reissued the surveillance warrant three different times.

Correct.

Which is why the FBI never told them.
The FBI applied for the warrant before firing Steele. Next lie...?

Not the 3 extensions, they didn't.
 

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