Insuring only legal votes are counted in presidential election is a federal question

[johnwk]

You know how to use the Google. SPARE the rest of us if not.

Translation: You are unable to provide evidence regarding your assertion about Trump trying to cripple the post office.



JWK


Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

Dumpster Don and his unqualified $700,000 donor stooge Louie DeMisery have lost multiple lawsuits for slow rolling the mail. You should have heard something about it by now. Slow learners.

Once again, you forgot to provide your evidence regarding Trump trying to cripple the post office.

Put up or shut up!



JWK


The unavoidable truth is, our socialist revolutionaries, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have a plan for “free” college tuition, and cancelling student loan debt. The problem is, it will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Frauds And Cheats Disregard For Legitimate Standards "

* Lawsuit To Abate Entirely And Void The Vote As Not Authentic *

Dumpster Don and his unqualified $700,000 donor stooge Louie DeMisery have lost multiple lawsuits for slow rolling the mail. You should have heard something about it by now. Slow learners.

As a matter of voter integrity for failing to provide an equivalent of sworn affidavit before a magistrate , whereby a vote is verified as being cast by the individual for whom the vote was allocated , whereby a vote is not being cast based upon duress or on behalf of individuals not competent to cast votes , such mail in ballots lacking that official criteria should not be allowed and a drop box method should not ever be an acceptable method of voting .

Any which submitted a " mail in ballot " should have been required to do so at a registered voting location with a prerequisite that their identity be verified .

 

[Zorro!]

Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President...

No. Our Constitution states that The State Legislature shall prescribe the manner of selecting Electors, and today they all use a State or Congressional District vote, but, it's the State Legislature that selects Electors. Where precincts illegally operated in secret, they may not be able to use their vote totals for the purposes of assigning Electors.

What I posted is absolutely correct.

Actually, it isn't. From your own link:

State legislatures are responsible for choosing electors, but how they do this varies from state to state. Until the mid-1800s, it was common for many state legislatures to simply appoint electors, while other states let their citizens decide on electors.​

Show me the part that says they are required to appoint electors based on a vote.

... Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President.

That's incorrect:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress.​

The word appoint as used in Clause 2 confers on state legislatures the broadest power of determination.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep146/usrep146001/usrep146001.pdf

The Court upheld a state law providing for selection of electors by popular vote from districts rather than statewide. The Court described the variety of permissible methods, including direct appointment.

 

[Zorro!]

Trump should be bringing this to the S.C. This entire "count all the ballots" during the Mid-Terms should have been a HUGE red flag.

They are accepting mail in NV until Tuesday the 10th.

Why did the poll workers cover the windows in Detroit? Was it so no one could observe their work?


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JWK

Glare from the sun.

 

[johnwk]

Show me the part that says they are required to appoint electors based on a vote.

... Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President.

That's incorrect:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress.

What you may be missing is the following.

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

 

[johnwk]

Trump should be bringing this to the S.C. This entire "count all the ballots" during the Mid-Terms should have been a HUGE red flag.

They are accepting mail in NV until Tuesday the 10th.

Why did the poll workers cover the windows in Detroit? Was it so no one could observe their work?


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Glare from the sun.

 

[Likkmee]

Dons biggest fuckup was/is his mouth and tweets/ Lyin Ted, Crazy Bernie,Crooked Hillary,Little Mike...all that BS to attract trailer trash. Lotta cheers and hat sales but the wrong angle for thinking people to be attracted.
When the opposition ***** up, state document-able facts like a pro and knock off the Billionaire redneck BS.Rational people like facts and, had he stated them, without the jargon, he could have had his landslide. He usually was correct but never addressed it the right way.
He could have tossed the Trumpian jargon.Do it this way
" LOOK.This asshole said this". Here are the facts.
Bernie was fulla shit on this. Here are the facts.
Ted was nuts that time !. Here are the facts
Hillary lied(not she's a LIAR !!!) She lied on that one. Look here. Document it.
Not "Bidens crackheads son" /// Bidens have done some highly questionable things" Look HERE and HERE and HERE.
Politician way.Not Howard Stern Methodology . Howard would have done better at refuting BS

 

[Zorro!]

Show me the part that says they are required to appoint electors based on a vote.

... Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President.

That's incorrect:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress.

What you may be missing is the following.

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

I wonder if this is why:

VOTE STUFFING Pattern in swing states w/ Senate races. Michigan Trump: 2,637,173 GOP Sen: 2,630,042 Dif: 7,131 Biden: 2,787,544 Dem Sen: 2,718,451 Dif: 69,093 When you account for 3rd party vote, seems like tens of thousands of mysterious Biden votes w/ no down ticket votes.

In Georgia, it's even worse. Where they're currently "finding" new Biden votes. Trump: 2,432,799 GOP Sen: 2,433,617 Dif: 818 Biden: 2,414,651 Dem Sen: 2,318,850 Dif: 95,801 Again, after accounting for 3rd party vote, HUGE amount of mysterious Biden votes w/ no down ticket.

In Montana and Wyoming, which are non-swing state elections, the Democrat Senator were not way outpaced by Biden:

For comparison, check out a non-swing state, like Wyoming. Trump: 193,454 GOP Sen: 197,961 Dif:4,507 Biden: 73,445 Dem Sen: 72,720 Dif: 725 No massive flood of mysterious empty Biden votes. It's fraud. The Democrats are committing voter fraud in the Swing states.

Another control state, which Dems aren't currently trying to steaI. Montana Trump: 340,635 GOP Sen: 330,317 Dif: 10,318 Biden: 243,278 Dem Sen: 270,735 Dif: 27,457 Stable numbers for GOP, and when you factor in 3rd party vote, no mysterious Biden-only ballots like the swings.





PA, MI, GA all have GOP Legislatures that will select the Electors.

GA has a GOP Gov, so if the Legislature confirms a GOP slate, the GOP gov is unlikely to object.

PA and MI have Dem Gov's, so if they also submit a slate, and that is ruled Constitutional, then their ECV will likely be thrown out, which would leave the election 254 to 248, Biden.

However, If AZ flips to Trump, Trump wins 259-243.
Or, if WI also has a the GOP Legislature and the GOP submitting competing slates that get thrown out, Trump wins 248 to 244.

So yes, this Constitutional language is important, and Trump still has multiple paths to victory

 

[johnwk]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

 

[Zorro!]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

 

[johnwk]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

I asked you a question. "What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?"

We were talking about electors. I pointed out:

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, why did you post all that stuff in post #48? What does it have to do with the fact that every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist revolutionaries’ nightmare and not the American Dream

 

[Zorro!]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

I asked you a question. "What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?"

We were talking about electors. I pointed out:

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, why did you post all that stuff in post #48? What does it have to do with the fact that every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist revolutionaries’ nightmare and not the American Dream

The point is, that it's a State Legislature's decision on how to use the vote totals. If it appears that certain precincts engaged in widespread cheating, the legislature, for purposes of electorate determination, may throw out the totals that were processed during periods that particular precincts were engaging in illegal activity.

PA, WI, MI, AZ all have GOP legislatures, constitutionally, they have the final say.

 

[johnwk]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

I asked you a question. "What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?"

We were talking about electors. I pointed out:

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, why did you post all that stuff in post #48? What does it have to do with the fact that every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist revolutionaries’ nightmare and not the American Dream

The point is, that it's a State Legislature's decision on how to use the vote totals. If it appears that certain precincts engaged in widespread cheating, the legislature, for purposes of electorate determination, may throw out the totals that were processed during periods that particular precincts were engaging in illegal activity.

PA, WI, MI, AZ all have GOP legislatures, constitutionally, they have the final say.

All of which has nothing to do with how a state's electors are determined, which is what we were talking about.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

 

[whats up]

Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President.


Our Constitution by its 14th Amendment provides a penalty for any abridgement of the right to vote making any abridgement federally protected.


By our Constitution’s 15th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude, making this right federally protected.


By the 19th Amendment the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex making any abridgement federally protected.


By the 24th Amendment The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reasons of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


And by the 26th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of age.


So, what actually constitutes an abridgement of the right to vote which is federally protected as stated above?


If a State’s employees who count election results are free to count illegal ballots ___ ballots which do not meet the States voting requirements and restrictions ___ would that constitute an “abridgement” of the federally protected right to vote? The answer to this question is a resounding ‘Yes”, as each illegal ballot would in effect cancel out a Citizen’s legally presented ballot and thus be an infringement.


So, to protect against such infringements, should our federal courts require, when an appropriate request is made, that all ballots be inspected by representatives of each political party to insure each ballot is a legally counted ballot?


JWK


Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

NO because it would be months before a election could be called if each ballot of 160 million had to be inspected....the court system should only deal with provable evidence of fraud....the reBOOBliCONS have dozens of law suits that have been thrown out because there is ZERO proof of fraud....There should be laws if a party brings in phony lawsuits that have ZERO PROOF there will be very large fines and the lawyers bringing the lawsuits knowing there is no proof in the lawsuit should be charged large fines.. that would stop all the bull shit lawsuits that the reBOOBliCONS are doing right know...

 

[johnwk]

Our federal Constitution commands that the people of each state vote for their electors and their electors vote for the President.


Our Constitution by its 14th Amendment provides a penalty for any abridgement of the right to vote making any abridgement federally protected.


By our Constitution’s 15th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude, making this right federally protected.


By the 19th Amendment the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex making any abridgement federally protected.


By the 24th Amendment The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reasons of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


And by the 26th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of age.


So, what actually constitutes an abridgement of the right to vote which is federally protected as stated above?


If a State’s employees who count election results are free to count illegal ballots ___ ballots which do not meet the States voting requirements and restrictions ___ would that constitute an “abridgement” of the federally protected right to vote? The answer to this question is a resounding ‘Yes”, as each illegal ballot would in effect cancel out a Citizen’s legally presented ballot and thus be an infringement.


So, to protect against such infringements, should our federal courts require, when an appropriate request is made, that all ballots be inspected by representatives of each political party to insure each ballot is a legally counted ballot?


JWK


Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

NO because it would be months before a election could be called if each ballot of 160 million had to be inspected....

Did you miss the following? " . . . when an appropriate request is made . . . "

JWK




Call these scoundrels what they really are! They are not “progressive” or “democrat” leaders. They are radical socialist revolutionaries, supported and defended by a Fifth Column Media and Yellow Journalists.

 

[Zorro!]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

I asked you a question. "What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?"

We were talking about electors. I pointed out:

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, why did you post all that stuff in post #48? What does it have to do with the fact that every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist revolutionaries’ nightmare and not the American Dream

The point is, that it's a State Legislature's decision on how to use the vote totals. If it appears that certain precincts engaged in widespread cheating, the legislature, for purposes of electorate determination, may throw out the totals that were processed during periods that particular precincts were engaging in illegal activity.

PA, WI, MI, AZ all have GOP legislatures, constitutionally, they have the final say.

All of which has nothing to do with how a state's electors are determined, which is what we were talking about.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

Sure it does. The State legislature determines how the Electors are selected, Silly.

 

[Skylar]

So, to protect against such infringements, should our federal courts require, when an appropriate request is made, that all ballots be inspected by representatives of each political party to insure each ballot is a legally counted ballot?

Not without evidence to justify the claims of infringement.

 

[Zorro!]

THEY LOVE MAKING LISTS. THEY WON’T LIKE BEING ON THEM. CNN Gets in on the List Game, Targeting ‘Enablers’ of Trump’s Election ‘Defiance.’

In the past few days, Democrats and their allies in the #NeverTrump movement have started the hateful practice of compiling blacklists of Trump supporters or those who refuse to immediately trumpet Joe Biden’s contested and as yet unconfirmed victory in the November election. CNN, perhaps afraid of falling behind, ran a report listing every single Republican senator who has refused to congratulate Biden so far. At the bottom on the screen, the outlet singled out the president’s dastardly “enablers” who dared to stand up for Trump’s right to raise legal challenges in response to serious concerns about potential fraud.

On Tuesday, CNN published a list of 49 Republican senators guilty of the unspeakable crime of waiting for the final confirmed election results. The chyron screamed, “TRUMP’S DEFIANCE FUELED BY ENABLERS LIKE BARR, MCCONNELL, FOX.”

Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin threatened to cancel any Republican “making baseless allegations of fraud.” She declared that any such Republican “should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into ‘polite’ society. We have a list.”

Michael Simon, a former Obama administration analytics staffer, started a “Trump Accountability Project” to keep a list of Trump supporters. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) asked, “Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee [a] decent probability of many deleted Tweets [sic], writings, photos in the future.”

Simon responded (in a now-deleted tweet), “Yes, we are. The Trump Accountability Project [is]. Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

Blacklisting is a sordid American tradition, tracing back to the days of the Red Scare. Soviets used the tactic to exile their enemies from polite society, and many organizations in America used blacklists to target alleged communist sympathizers. The Southern Poverty Law Center uses a similar tactic to silence conservatives and Christians who dare question the far-Left’s orthodoxy, placing mainstream conservative organizations on a “hate group” list with the Ku Klux Klan.

The totalitarian's rush to exile dissenters from polite society is going to blow back.

 

[johnwk]

Yes. They seem quite butthurt over that plain language of the Constitution.

What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?

JWK

Did you not point out the language in article II that the State Legislature selects the electors? I'm not clear on what is confusing you.

I asked you a question. "What does all that stuff that have to do with what I posted?"

We were talking about electors. I pointed out:

The Constitution, from its very beginning, guaranteed that each State appoint their own electors. During the first Presidential election, different states adopted different methods to appoint their electors. Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, why did you post all that stuff in post #48? What does it have to do with the fact that every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist revolutionaries’ nightmare and not the American Dream

The point is, that it's a State Legislature's decision on how to use the vote totals. If it appears that certain precincts engaged in widespread cheating, the legislature, for purposes of electorate determination, may throw out the totals that were processed during periods that particular precincts were engaging in illegal activity.

PA, WI, MI, AZ all have GOP legislatures, constitutionally, they have the final say.

All of which has nothing to do with how a state's electors are determined, which is what we were talking about.

JWK

Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist domestic revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.

Sure it does. The State legislature determines how the Electors are selected, Silly.

Today, every state uses a popular vote of the people to appoint their State's electors.

So, all the nonsense you posted had nothing to do with how a state's electors are determined, which is what we were talking about.

JWK



Call these scoundrels what they are! They are not “progressive” or “democrat” leaders. They are radical socialist revolutionaries, supported and defended by a Fifth Column Media and Yellow Journalists.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump should be bringing this to the S.C. This entire "count all the ballots" during the Mid-Terms should have been a HUGE red flag.

They are accepting mail in NV until Tuesday the 10th.

Why did the poll workers cover the windows in Detroit? Was it so no one could observe their work?


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Um
Yeah