Insiders Come Forward, Proof of Benghazi Stand Down Order, It was Obama

[Jackson]

General Dempsey denied this in front of Congress, while under Oath; yet many believe employees of a private company over a US General:

Gen. Dempsey denies US special forces were told to stand down in Benghazi TheHill

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C4E16543-8F99-430C-BEBA-0045A6433426

Dempsey has served since 1974, and is being denigrated, WHY? And the bizarrre claim Obama watched the events is just that, did any of those posting pay attention to the Congressional inquiry? The slain Americans changed locations, among other events that prove these claims to be loathsome inventions of money grubbing profiteers.

Obama has a record of getting rid of generals that disagree with him. that could be the reason why.

 

[Jackson]

Peach........We have assets all over the globe.........and in the Med region.........There is no way in hell it should have taken that long. As I already said, we could have sent people from the continental U.S. in that amount of time.

So you claim Gen. Dempsey lied, under Oath, before Congress? Still no reason given for the grave accusation against a man who served this nation for decades. Dempsey's record is impressive for such a smear to be upheld:

Dempsey received a commission as an Armor officer upon graduation from the United States Military Academy in 1974. As acompany-grade officer, he served in 1st Squadron, 2d Armored Cavalry Regiment as the S-1 OIC. He went on to be the Executive Officer of the 3rd Brigade 3rd Armored Division during Operation Desert Shield/Storm. As Lieutenant Colonel he commanded the 4th Battalion of the 67th Armored Regiment "Bandits" from 1992–1995 in the 1st Armored Division in Friedberg, Hesse, Germany.[5]

In June 2003, then Major General Dempsey assumed command of 1st Armored Division. He succeeded Ricardo S. Sanchez who was promoted to Lieutenant General, as Corps Commander V Corps. Dempsey's command of the 1st Armored Division lasted until July 2005 and included 13 months in Iraq, from June 2003 to July 2004. While in Iraq, 1st Armored Division, in addition to its own brigades, had operational command over the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment and a brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division; the command, called "Task Force Iron" in recognition of the Division's nickname, "Old Ironsides", was the largest division-level command in the history of the United States Army.[6]


Dempsey talks with U.S. Marine Corps drill instructorsin March 2013.
It was during this time that the U.S. intervention in Iraq changed dramatically as Fallujah fell toSunni extremists and supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr built their strength and rose up against American forces. Then Major General Dempsey and his command assumed responsibility for the Area of Operations in Baghdad as the insurgency incubated, grew, and exploded. General Dempsey has been described by Thomas Ricks in his book "Fiasco": "In the capital itself, the 1st Armored Division, after Sanchez assumed control of V Corps, was led by Maj. Gen. Martin Dempsey, was generally seen as handling a difficult (and inherited) job well, under the global spotlight of Baghdad."

On February 5, 2008, Dempsey was nominated to head the U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army, and was nominated for promotion to four-star general upon Senate approval.

On March 11, 2008, Dempsey's commander, Admiral William J. Fallon, retired from active service. U.S. Secretary of DefenseRobert Gates accepted this as effective on March 31. Dempsey took over command as acting commander CENTCOM.

On March 13, 2008, Dempsey was confirmed by the United States Senate as Commander, U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.[7]However due, to Admiral Fallon's unexpected retirement, Dempsey never took command of U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.

On July 11, 2008, Dempsey was nominated to take command of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command while Lieutenant General Carter F. Ham replaced his nomination to command the U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.[8]

On December 8, 2008, Dempsey assumed command of United States Army Training and Doctrine Command.[9]


Dempsey and Lt. GeneralBenny Gantz, Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces visiting the Yad VaShem Holocaust Memorial Museum in Jerusalem, Israel, where Dempsey paid respect to the memory of Holocaustvictims on January 20, 2012.[10][11]
On January 6, 2011, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced that he would recommend that the President nominate General Dempsey to succeed General George Casey as the Army Chief of Staff.[12] On February 8, 2011, Gates announced that President Barack Obama nominated Dempsey to be the 37th Chief of Staff of the United States Army.[13] On March 3, 2011, Dempsey testified before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services, [14] and on March 15, 2011, the committee affirmatively reported Dempsey's nomination.[15] On March 16, 2011, the Senate confirmed Dempsey's nomination by unanimous consent.[16] On April 11, 2011, Dempsey was sworn in as Chief of Staff of the United States Army at a ceremony at Fort Myer.

And, with one swipe of the pen, Obama could wipe out that respectable and notable past for pointing the finger at him.

 

[Slice The Great]

General Dempsey denied this in front of Congress, while under Oath; yet many believe employees of a private company over a US General:

Gen. Dempsey denies US special forces were told to stand down in Benghazi TheHill

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C4E16543-8F99-430C-BEBA-0045A6433426

Dempsey has served since 1974, and is being denigrated, WHY? And the bizarrre claim Obama watched the events is just that, did any of those posting pay attention to the Congressional inquiry? The slain Americans changed locations, among other events that prove these claims to be loathsome inventions of money grubbing profiteers.

Obama has a record of getting rid of generals that disagree with him. that could be the reason why.

Name one General that Obama got rid of for disagreeing with him.

 

[Slice The Great]

Peach........We have assets all over the globe.........and in the Med region.........There is no way in hell it should have taken that long. As I already said, we could have sent people from the continental U.S. in that amount of time.

So you claim Gen. Dempsey lied, under Oath, before Congress? Still no reason given for the grave accusation against a man who served this nation for decades. Dempsey's record is impressive for such a smear to be upheld:

Dempsey received a commission as an Armor officer upon graduation from the United States Military Academy in 1974. As acompany-grade officer, he served in 1st Squadron, 2d Armored Cavalry Regiment as the S-1 OIC. He went on to be the Executive Officer of the 3rd Brigade 3rd Armored Division during Operation Desert Shield/Storm. As Lieutenant Colonel he commanded the 4th Battalion of the 67th Armored Regiment "Bandits" from 1992–1995 in the 1st Armored Division in Friedberg, Hesse, Germany.[5]

In June 2003, then Major General Dempsey assumed command of 1st Armored Division. He succeeded Ricardo S. Sanchez who was promoted to Lieutenant General, as Corps Commander V Corps. Dempsey's command of the 1st Armored Division lasted until July 2005 and included 13 months in Iraq, from June 2003 to July 2004. While in Iraq, 1st Armored Division, in addition to its own brigades, had operational command over the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment and a brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division; the command, called "Task Force Iron" in recognition of the Division's nickname, "Old Ironsides", was the largest division-level command in the history of the United States Army.[6]


Dempsey talks with U.S. Marine Corps drill instructorsin March 2013.
It was during this time that the U.S. intervention in Iraq changed dramatically as Fallujah fell toSunni extremists and supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr built their strength and rose up against American forces. Then Major General Dempsey and his command assumed responsibility for the Area of Operations in Baghdad as the insurgency incubated, grew, and exploded. General Dempsey has been described by Thomas Ricks in his book "Fiasco": "In the capital itself, the 1st Armored Division, after Sanchez assumed control of V Corps, was led by Maj. Gen. Martin Dempsey, was generally seen as handling a difficult (and inherited) job well, under the global spotlight of Baghdad."

On February 5, 2008, Dempsey was nominated to head the U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army, and was nominated for promotion to four-star general upon Senate approval.

On March 11, 2008, Dempsey's commander, Admiral William J. Fallon, retired from active service. U.S. Secretary of DefenseRobert Gates accepted this as effective on March 31. Dempsey took over command as acting commander CENTCOM.

On March 13, 2008, Dempsey was confirmed by the United States Senate as Commander, U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.[7]However due, to Admiral Fallon's unexpected retirement, Dempsey never took command of U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.

On July 11, 2008, Dempsey was nominated to take command of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command while Lieutenant General Carter F. Ham replaced his nomination to command the U.S. Army, Europe/Seventh Army.[8]

On December 8, 2008, Dempsey assumed command of United States Army Training and Doctrine Command.[9]


Dempsey and Lt. GeneralBenny Gantz, Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces visiting the Yad VaShem Holocaust Memorial Museum in Jerusalem, Israel, where Dempsey paid respect to the memory of Holocaustvictims on January 20, 2012.[10][11]
On January 6, 2011, Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced that he would recommend that the President nominate General Dempsey to succeed General George Casey as the Army Chief of Staff.[12] On February 8, 2011, Gates announced that President Barack Obama nominated Dempsey to be the 37th Chief of Staff of the United States Army.[13] On March 3, 2011, Dempsey testified before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services, [14] and on March 15, 2011, the committee affirmatively reported Dempsey's nomination.[15] On March 16, 2011, the Senate confirmed Dempsey's nomination by unanimous consent.[16] On April 11, 2011, Dempsey was sworn in as Chief of Staff of the United States Army at a ceremony at Fort Myer.

And, with one swipe of the pen, Obama could wipe out that respectable and notable past for pointing the finger at him.

Name one general who has been fired for simply disagreeing with the President.

 

[Rouge Rover]

General Dempsey denied this in front of Congress, while under Oath; yet many believe employees of a private company over a US General:

Gen. Dempsey denies US special forces were told to stand down in Benghazi TheHill

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C4E16543-8F99-430C-BEBA-0045A6433426

Dempsey has served since 1974, and is being denigrated, WHY? And the bizarrre claim Obama watched the events is just that, did any of those posting pay attention to the Congressional inquiry? The slain Americans changed locations, among other events that prove these claims to be loathsome inventions of money grubbing profiteers.

Obama has a record of getting rid of generals that disagree with him. that could be the reason why.

Name one General that Obama got rid of for disagreeing with him.

Stanley McChrystal?

 

[Slice The Great]

General Dempsey denied this in front of Congress, while under Oath; yet many believe employees of a private company over a US General:

Gen. Dempsey denies US special forces were told to stand down in Benghazi TheHill

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=C4E16543-8F99-430C-BEBA-0045A6433426

Dempsey has served since 1974, and is being denigrated, WHY? And the bizarrre claim Obama watched the events is just that, did any of those posting pay attention to the Congressional inquiry? The slain Americans changed locations, among other events that prove these claims to be loathsome inventions of money grubbing profiteers.

Obama has a record of getting rid of generals that disagree with him. that could be the reason why.

Name one General that Obama got rid of for disagreeing with him.

Stanley McChrystal?

What was his disagreement?

 

[Rouge Rover]

Not sure, that's why I used a question mark. I think he said something about Biden and Obama asked for his resignation.

 

[kiwiman127]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

 

[jc456]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

 

[Slice The Great]

Not sure, that's why I used a question mark. I think he said something about Biden and Obama asked for his resignation.

I see.

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

The election of a black President changed everything.

 

[Slice The Great]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

What exactly did Obama and Clinton say that you allege were lies?

 

[jc456]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

What exactly did Obama and Clinton say that you allege were lies?

many things, you should really go google the internet and read up on them.

 

[Slice The Great]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

With respect to the Clinton's emails, what law do you believe she violated?

 

[Slice The Great]

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

What exactly did Obama and Clinton say that you allege were lies?

many things, you should really go google the internet and read up on them.

I read your post to be an admission that you can't back up your allegation that Obama and Clinton lied.

 

[jc456]

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

What exactly did Obama and Clinton say that you allege were lies?

many things, you should really go google the internet and read up on them.

I read your post to be an admission that you can't back up your allegation that Obama and Clinton lied.

no, I don't educate the uneducated for free. You should actually research those you fall in love with and see who they are.

 

[jc456]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

With respect to the Clinton's emails, what law do you believe she violated?

Ones that require the FBI get involved.

 

[jc456]

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

What exactly did Obama and Clinton say that you allege were lies?

many things, you should really go google the internet and read up on them.

I read your post to be an admission that you can't back up your allegation that Obama and Clinton lied.

here for free, a link to where you should be able to use to go after additional links if you are truly interested in the truth. I doubt it, but again, here for free:

Amb. Stevens' Benghazi Diary Published

"Brandon Webb, a former Navy SEAL who founded SOFREP.com and wrote their report on the diary with ex-Special Forces soldier Jack Murphy, told ABC News they chose to publish the document "because it has value in the continued national conversation regarding senior State Department leadership's negligence regarding security, and their lack of integrity and accountability since the attack."

"Seeing Ambassador Stevens' handwritten notes adds a level of intimacy previously not seen," said Webb, who was best friends with Glen Doherty before he was killed.

Following an investigation into the assault, the State Department released an unclassified version of their Accountability Review Board report. The report said the investigation found "systematic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department [that] resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place." Four State Department employees were relieved of their duty as a result, including the assistant secretary for Diplomatic Security."

 

[kiwiman127]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

My point is,,back in the Reagan years there wasn't all this hyper-partisan bullshit. Not in congress and not in the media with all the hyper-partisan blogs that are driving the polarization in the US.
I absolutely hate all this hyper-partisan bullshit. It leads to nothing good, just the division of the country and to a dysfunctional government where nothing really gets done.
Secondly Hillary, I agree that she isn't honest and I hope she ends up dropping out of the race for the presidency. On the other side of the coin, the quite a few of the leading candidates on the GOP side also haven't been honest themselves. Various fact-checkers have pointed that out.
Right now, I'm pulling for Kasich. I believe he identifies with most Americans as he has views that the real silent majority (centralist/independents/moderates) can identify with. Being has that group is by far the largest segment of the American, public, that's good for the country. The fringes on the right and left need to be standing on the sidelines as they represent a small minority and their interests are not good for the general public as a whole. It's no wonder that both the Republican and Democratic parties are sliding down the tubes in the eyes of the voting public.

 

[jc456]

Yes, it is in the article. Everyone wanted to rescue Stevens, but Obama ordered theme to stand down, do nothing. They eventually disobeyed orders, but it was too late for Stevens. Watch the video.

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

My point is,,back in the Reagan years there wasn't all this hyper-partisan bullshit. Not in congress and not in the media with all the hyper-partisan blogs that are driving the polarization in the US.
I absolutely hate all this hyper-partisan bullshit. It leads to nothing good, just the division of the country and to a dysfunctional government where nothing really gets done.
Secondly Hillary, I agree that she isn't honest and I hope she ends up dropping out of the race for the presidency. On the other side of the coin, the quite a few of the leading candidates on the GOP side also haven't been honest themselves. Various fact-checkers have pointed that out.
Right now, I'm pulling for Kasich. I believe he identifies with most Americans as he has views that the real silent majority (centralist/independents/moderates can identify with. Being has that group is by far the largest segment of the American, public, that's good for the country. The fringes on the right and left need to be standing on the sidelines as they represent a small minority and their interests are not good for the general public as a whole. It's no wonder that both the Republican and Democratic parties are sliding down the tubes in the eyes of the voting public.

and the partisan shit happened as a result of obummerscare. Ignoring and not including the voice of the other side of the aisle and people they represented on this failure of legislation is perhaps the trigger point to the partisanship. The fact that Obummer is unwilling to compromise on any legislation is another and create executive orders because he can't negotiate, is another.

I do understand your concerns on the GOP as well, and why I will be voting for Trump, he isn't the Washington establishment and owes nothing to anyone. He is a very successful businessman who has leadership skills out the wazoo. And that is what this country needs IMO.

 

[ogibillm]

Stevens was dead within 30 min. from smoke inhalation. The entire building was engulfed. No one could have saved him.

well sure they could have, they could have gone in weeks before and evacuated due to the threat in the area. d-oh

And Ron Reagan could have listened to his staff's warnings about an imminent attack per the CIA on the troops and followed the recommendations to move the troops from barracks where they were sitting ducks. He didn't and 241 servicemen loss their lives. Over a week after the attack, the administration ally admitted they had warnings. Were there endless witch hunts that lasted over two years following the Reagan Administrations blunder? No.

well, it sounds like they admitted they didn't listen to the warnings. Your point? mine is Obummer and Clinton have lied and now she wants to run for president? hahahaha. Reagan was already in office right? So he didn't run with that on his resume. For people to ignore the resume of a candidate is truly sad. She's a piece of work and ought to be in jail today. Especially for the email scandal.

oh, and that is history and the libs didn't pursue it I guess, still don't understand your point.

My point is,,back in the Reagan years there wasn't all this hyper-partisan bullshit. Not in congress and not in the media with all the hyper-partisan blogs that are driving the polarization in the US.
I absolutely hate all this hyper-partisan bullshit. It leads to nothing good, just the division of the country and to a dysfunctional government where nothing really gets done.
Secondly Hillary, I agree that she isn't honest and I hope she ends up dropping out of the race for the presidency. On the other side of the coin, the quite a few of the leading candidates on the GOP side also haven't been honest themselves. Various fact-checkers have pointed that out.
Right now, I'm pulling for Kasich. I believe he identifies with most Americans as he has views that the real silent majority (centralist/independents/moderates can identify with. Being has that group is by far the largest segment of the American, public, that's good for the country. The fringes on the right and left need to be standing on the sidelines as they represent a small minority and their interests are not good for the general public as a whole. It's no wonder that both the Republican and Democratic parties are sliding down the tubes in the eyes of the voting public.

and the partisan shit happened as a result of obummerscare. Ignoring and not including the voice of the other side of the aisle and people they represented on this failure of legislation is perhaps the trigger point to the partisanship.

well that's complete bullshit. the aca is essentially a republican idea, pushed by the heritage foundation - at least until a black man became president.
from day one republicans decided that they weren't going to work with the president on anything. it's the one promise they've kept.