In Support Of A Palestinian State

[Phoenall]

What makes anyone thing the Arab Muslims in Israel are capable of handling the affairs of state in a responsible manor.

Look at what happened in Gaza, Its cess pool of violence and anarchy

Then they will need to take lessons and very quickly, when the UN forces them to stand up and be counted in a few short months. When they are given what they demand and find that they have lost what they most need in the process. Who will pay the bills then when UNWRA is disbanded as there will be no more Palestinian refugees.
GIVE THEM THEIR NATION AND THEIR FREE DETERMINATION AND WATCH THEM DESTROY THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST MONTH

 

[Boston1]

What makes anyone thing the Arab Muslims in Israel are capable of handling the affairs of state in a responsible manor.

Look at what happened in Gaza, Its cess pool of violence and anarchy

Then they will need to take lessons and very quickly, when the UN forces them to stand up and be counted in a few short months. When they are given what they demand and find that they have lost what they most need in the process. Who will pay the bills then when UNWRA is disbanded as there will be no more Palestinian refugees.
GIVE THEM THEIR NATION AND THEIR FREE DETERMINATION AND WATCH THEM DESTROY THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST MONTH

Sure but give them that nation somewhere else. Israel is already the smallest nation of the mandated areas with the Arab Muslims already having something like 99% of west Africa.

Let them set up camp in Jordan somewhere ;--)

 

[MJB12741]

What makes anyone thing the Arab Muslims in Israel are capable of handling the affairs of state in a responsible manor.

Look at what happened in Gaza, Its cess pool of violence and anarchy

Then they will need to take lessons and very quickly, when the UN forces them to stand up and be counted in a few short months. When they are given what they demand and find that they have lost what they most need in the process. Who will pay the bills then when UNWRA is disbanded as there will be no more Palestinian refugees.
GIVE THEM THEIR NATION AND THEIR FREE DETERMINATION AND WATCH THEM DESTROY THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST MONTH

Sure but give them that nation somewhere else. Israel is already the smallest nation of the mandated areas with the Arab Muslims already having something like 99% of west Africa.

Let them set up camp in Jordan somewhere ;--)

I agree with both of you. Give the Pali's their own Palestinian State with self determination. But somewhere outside of Israel so they will not have Israel to blame for their failures & self destruction.

 

[montelatici]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

 

[Hollie]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

As good a place as any for dysfunctional Arabs-Moslems to fail in establishing a first-world society and economy.

 

[MJB12741]

No surrounding Arab country will grant a right of return to their Palestinians. Perhaps Mecca would be a nice place for them.

 

[Phoenall]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

So the arab muslim illegal immigrants could have went there instead

 

[Boston1]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

So the arab muslim illegal immigrants could have went there instead

He seems very confused

He's all on a rampage about how a hebrew word, can't pertain to the Arab Muslim propensity towards lying. Hasbara.

But he's blithering on about how a Latin word somehow pertains to Arab Muslims, it just doesn't make much sense, but then again, when did Numbnuts AKA Monty ever make much sense.

So now he's saying that the Arab Muslim colonists in Israel should have been sent to British Africa ? Damn, why not just have sent them home to Arabia and get it over with. Oh wait. Numbnuts also claims Arabians are not Arab.

Damn that fool is confused.

Did he even mention our subject ? which is if these Latin lovers even deserve a state. I mean how can Arab Muslims be referred to by a Latin name ????? And how can a state with a Latin name end up in Arab Muslim hands if they are NOT colonists ;--) its really quite the mystery ;--)

 

[Phoenall]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

So the arab muslim illegal immigrants could have went there instead

He seems very confused

He's all on a rampage about how a hebrew word, can't pertain to the Arab Muslim propensity towards lying. Hasbara.

But he's blithering on about how a Latin word somehow pertains to Arab Muslims, it just doesn't make much sense, but then again, when did Numbnuts AKA Monty ever make much sense.

So now he's saying that the Arab Muslim colonists in Israel should have been sent to British Africa ? Damn, why not just have sent them home to Arabia and get it over with. Oh wait. Numbnuts also claims Arabians are not Arab.

Damn that fool is confused.

Did he even mention our subject ? which is if these Latin lovers even deserve a state. I mean how can Arab Muslims be referred to by a Latin name ????? And how can a state with a Latin name end up in Arab Muslim hands if they are NOT colonists ;--) its really quite the mystery ;--)

He has this nasty habit of slipping in deflections and derailments every time he is losing the argument. So now because he gets away with doing it I report them, if you or I did it as often we would be facing a ban by now

 

[MJB12741]

If only Lord Balfour had been as clever as MJB. Sending the European Jews to the Middle East was a crazy idea. There was a lot of land in British Africa.

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.




So the arab muslim illegal immigrants could have went there instead

He seems very confused

He's all on a rampage about how a hebrew word, can't pertain to the Arab Muslim propensity towards lying. Hasbara.

But he's blithering on about how a Latin word somehow pertains to Arab Muslims, it just doesn't make much sense, but then again, when did Numbnuts AKA Monty ever make much sense.

So now he's saying that the Arab Muslim colonists in Israel should have been sent to British Africa ? Damn, why not just have sent them home to Arabia and get it over with. Oh wait. Numbnuts also claims Arabians are not Arab.

Damn that fool is confused.

Did he even mention our subject ? which is if these Latin lovers even deserve a state. I mean how can Arab Muslims be referred to by a Latin name ????? And how can a state with a Latin name end up in Arab Muslim hands if they are NOT colonists ;--) its really quite the mystery ;--)

 

[MJB12741]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hamas= Hezbollah= IDF on Steroids.

Oh for goodness sake. Have a heart. Have mercy on the poor Palestinians victimized by Israel's brutal treatment of peace offerings, security fence & land concessions keepiing the Paili's captives under Israeli rule. At least let them have their own Palestinian State with self determination far far away from Israel. Don't you agree dear?

Israel won't be happy til the last of the Canaanites are dead.

Canaanites are an extinct people.

I don't know, man.



Penelope does seem like she worships Baal.

 

[montelatici]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

 

[Penelope]

Hamas= Hezbollah= IDF on Steroids.

Oh for goodness sake. Have a heart. Have mercy on the poor Palestinians victimized by Israel's brutal treatment of peace offerings, security fence & land concessions keepiing the Paili's captives under Israeli rule. At least let them have their own Palestinian State with self determination far far away from Israel. Don't you agree dear?

Israel won't be happy til the last of the Canaanites are dead.

Canaanites are an extinct people.

I think its the Hebrews who died out.

 

[Hollie]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

 

[montelatici]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

Because the Palestinians are not an invented people and are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine. The different elites that ruled Palestine did not change the ethnicity of the people. It resulted in conversion to other religions, the first conversion was to Christianity. The people did not magically become Byzantine Romans when they converted, by force, to Christianity. LOL

 

[Hollie]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

Because the Palestinians are not an invented people and are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine. The different elites that ruled Palestine did not change the ethnicity of the people. It resulted in conversion to other religions, the first conversion was to Christianity. The people did not magically become Byzantine Romans when they converted, by force, to Christianity. LOL

The Pal'istanians certainly are an invented people. Invented in 1967 by Yassir "I'm Egyptian" Arafat. The different Arab and Turk invaders / colonizers certainly did change the ethnicity of the people.

Do you know what ethnicity means? LOL.

 

[montelatici]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

Because the Palestinians are not an invented people and are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine. The different elites that ruled Palestine did not change the ethnicity of the people. It resulted in conversion to other religions, the first conversion was to Christianity. The people did not magically become Byzantine Romans when they converted, by force, to Christianity. LOL

The Pal'istanians certainly are an invented people. Invented in 1967 by Yassir "I'm Egyptian" Arafat. The different Arab and Turk invaders / colonizers certainly did change the ethnicity of the people.

Do you know what ethnicity means? LOL.

The Romans, Arabians, Persians, European Crusaders, Mamluks and Ottomans were not colonial settlers, they were rulers. They did not change the ethnicity of the people.

Why do you insist on looking the fool. In 1922 the Palestinians were in communication with the British Colonial Office as the People of Palestine. I have all the facts and the sources from the various archives which I can and do provide links to. You will always look the fool when you dispute the facts I present.


From 1922.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/48A7E5584EE1403485256CD8006C3FBE

 

[Hollie]

So true. He also has this constant argument that the Muslims & Christians were the indigenous Palestinains. So I guess the Israelites were created in 1948. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

Because the Palestinians are not an invented people and are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine. The different elites that ruled Palestine did not change the ethnicity of the people. It resulted in conversion to other religions, the first conversion was to Christianity. The people did not magically become Byzantine Romans when they converted, by force, to Christianity. LOL

The Pal'istanians certainly are an invented people. Invented in 1967 by Yassir "I'm Egyptian" Arafat. The different Arab and Turk invaders / colonizers certainly did change the ethnicity of the people.

Do you know what ethnicity means? LOL.

The Romans, Arabians, Persians, European Crusaders, Mamluks and Ottomans were not colonial settlers, they were rulers. They did not change the ethnicity of the people.

Why do you insist on looking the fool. In 1922 the Palestinians were in communication with the British Colonial Office as the People of Palestine. I have all the facts and the sources from the various archives which I can and do provide links to. You will always look the fool when you dispute the facts I present.


From 1922.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/48A7E5584EE1403485256CD8006C3FBE

It's comical. When you get flummoxed at being unable to support your argument, your reaction is to start feverishly cutting and pasting anything you can scour from the web.

Even Arafat couldn't convince anyone there were these mythical Pal'istanians in a mythical place called Pal'istan back in 1967 when he assigned a national identity to the welfare fraud he called Pal'istanians.

You find the facts unpalatable but the invading / colonizing Turks followed by the invading / squatting Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese were obviously not Pal'istanians.

 

[montelatici]

Of course the Palestinians are descendants of the people that have always lived there. Converting to the religion of the rulers, especially when it was the law to worship the state religion (Christianity) in the case of Byzantine Palestine, or convenience in the case of Islam, doesn't change the ethnicity of the people. Do you think that for some strange reason Palestine is different from any other area of the world that has seen rulers change?

How can the Pal'stanians (an invented people) be the descendants of people who have always lived there when varying groups of different ethnicities and religions (some of which had come and gone), have lived there?

Because the Palestinians are not an invented people and are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine. The different elites that ruled Palestine did not change the ethnicity of the people. It resulted in conversion to other religions, the first conversion was to Christianity. The people did not magically become Byzantine Romans when they converted, by force, to Christianity. LOL

The Pal'istanians certainly are an invented people. Invented in 1967 by Yassir "I'm Egyptian" Arafat. The different Arab and Turk invaders / colonizers certainly did change the ethnicity of the people.

Do you know what ethnicity means? LOL.

The Romans, Arabians, Persians, European Crusaders, Mamluks and Ottomans were not colonial settlers, they were rulers. They did not change the ethnicity of the people.

Why do you insist on looking the fool. In 1922 the Palestinians were in communication with the British Colonial Office as the People of Palestine. I have all the facts and the sources from the various archives which I can and do provide links to. You will always look the fool when you dispute the facts I present.


From 1922.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.


No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/48A7E5584EE1403485256CD8006C3FBE

It's comical. When you get flummoxed at being unable to support your argument, your reaction is to start feverishly cutting and pasting anything you can scour from the web.

Even Arafat couldn't convince anyone there were these mythical Pal'istanians in a mythical place called Pal'istan back in 1967 when he assigned a national identity to the welfare fraud he called Pal'istanians.

You find the facts unpalatable but the invading / colonizing Turks followed by the invading / squatting Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese were obviously not Pal'istanians.

You have a problem with reality. The archive I access is the UN archive, not the Hasbara sites you use to create your reality.

You just don't have the facts. Making things up puts you at a disadvantage.

There were no Turkish settlers, nor Egyptians, nor Syrians nor Lebanese.