In Jerusalem, Israel now.

[Art__Allm]

When you go to the Jewish Ency they spell it Chazars, why do you think there were do many Jews in Ukraine and Russia.

Well, you only have to look at different Jews.

Some of them have blue eyes and blond hair and look like typical North Europeans.
Some of them look like typical Mongolians.
Some of them look like typical black Africans.
Some of them look like typical Arabs.

Some of them look like a mixture of many different races.

And many of them look like a mixture of the population of North Caucasus (North Caucasus was part of Khazaria) and Europeans, and these "mongrels" are called "Ashkenazi".

Some uneducated people believe that Ashkenazi are the real Jews and that real Jews have to look like Ashkenazi.

Only Ashkenazi Jews have Kazarian-Armenian noses and often white skin, because they intermixed with Slavs.

The real Semitic people do not have big Armenian noses, have they?

Do Arab girls do a "nose job"?
Are they unhappy with their noses?

No, only Ashkenazi girls are unhappy with their Khazarian-Armenian noses:

There comes a time in every young Jewish woman’s life when she must face a very serious dilemma: Nose job or used car? It’s a tough choice and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. One means the freedom of travel, the other means the freedom to not look so Jewish.

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Well, Ethiopian or any other oriental Jewish girls are quite happy with their Jewish Semitic noses, and what Ashkenazi call "Jewish nose" is in reality a Khazar-Armenian nose.

You will find a lot of people on the territory of the former Khazaria (North Caucasus) with such big noses, but you will not find this nose type among the Semitic people.

 

[toastman]

they claim that there was a mass conversion.

Well, this mass conversion was never disputed by the main Jewish historians before the creation of Israel.

This mass conversion is supported by demographic evidence. Without this mass conversion you cannot explain how in such a short time a tiny community of Jews that came (according to legends) to Poland from the Rhine area could evolve into many millions. The believers in this silly "Out-of-Rhine Theory" call this unexplainable population explosion a "miracle".
Well, science does not believe in miracles.

The Yiddish language does not have any vocabulary from the Rhine region, but has a lot of words from the Austrian varieties of German dialects. The grammar of Yiddish is similar to Slavic languages. That is another prove that Yiddish was originally a Slavic language in which Slavic words were replaced with German words from the eastern borders of the ancient German empire. That is the linguistic evidence.

The genetic evidence was established by Eran Elhaik, a jewish scientist.

And there is archaeological evidence, too.

The burial practice of Khazars changed in the 10th century, they did not look like pagan burials any more, they looked like Jewish burials.

You cannot find this in the English wiki, but the information is available in the Russian and even German Wiki:

Die Begräbniskultur spricht dafür, dass die jüdische Religion um 950 in allen Klassen der chasarischen Gesellschaft verbreitet war.

Chasaren Wikipedia

Translation:

The burial culture proves that Judaism was wide spread in all social groups of the Khazar society in the 950 AD.


The Russian archaeologist Pletneva argues that the disappearance of the Tengry-Han-Amulets in the Khazar burials of the 9th-10th centuries is a prove of the spread of Judaism in Khazaria:

Как замечает С. А. Плетнева, в ходе археологических исследований было засвидетельствовано исчезновение солярных амулетов, посвящённых Тенгри-хану, и, согласно её предположениям, это произошло из-за усиления иудаизма, который вытеснил из каганата «централизованный феодальный культ бога неба»
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Распространение_иудаизма_в_Хазарии_по_данным_археологии

The Soviet scientist Artamonov also agreed that Judaism was the dominant religion of Khazaria.
Artamonov mentions the compulsive conversion of some pagan tribes from North Caucasus.
After Stalin told him to shut up, he had to change his mind.

It is obvious that the rulers want to convert everybody into their own religion.

The same phenomenon was documented in Yemen, where Arab kings converted to Judaism and then forced all their subjects to convert to Judaism, too.

So Khazaria is not the only example, the conversion of Arab pagans in Yemen to Judaism happened a bit earlier.

Many Arab pagans, who converted to Judaism in Yemen, moved to Middle Asia (today Uzbekistan) and then to Khazaria, that is also well documented.

That's whole lot of words without saying much. There is no proof of a mass conversion. Just say-so.

 

[aris2chat]

When you go to the Jewish Ency they spell it Chazars, why do you think there were do many Jews in Ukraine and Russia.

Well, you only have to look at different Jews.

Some of them have blue eyes and blond hair and look like typical North Europeans.
Some of them look like typical Mongolians.
Some of them look like typical black Africans.
Some of them look like typical Arabs.

Some of them look like a mixture of many different races.

And many of them look like a mixture of the population of North Caucasus (North Caucasus was part of Khazaria) and Europeans, and these "mongrels" are called "Ashkenazi".

Some uneducated people believe that Ashkenazi are the real Jews and that real Jews have to look like Ashkenazi.

Only Ashkenazi Jews have Kazarian-Armenian noses and often white skin, because they intermixed with Slavs.

The real Semitic people do not have big Armenian noses, have they?

Do Arab girls do a "nose job"?
Are they unhappy with their noses?

No, only Ashkenazi girls are unhappy with their Khazarian-Armenian noses:

There comes a time in every young Jewish woman’s life when she must face a very serious dilemma: Nose job or used car? It’s a tough choice and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. One means the freedom of travel, the other means the freedom to not look so Jewish.

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Well, Ethiopian or any other oriental Jewish girls are quite happy with their Jewish Semitic noses, and what Ashkenazi call "Jewish nose" is in reality a Khazar-Armenian nose.

You will find a lot of people on the territory of the former Khazaria (North Caucasus) with such big noses, but you will not find this nose type among the Semitic people.

Lebanese, turks even egyptian have a wide variety of features.
how many were raped by the greeks of romans? How many were taken as slaves? How many married outside the faith?
Some clung desperately to marry within their faith but some did not. Judaism has a variety of level and sects from ultra orthodox to reform. Jews existed on nearly every region of the world.
Not all europeans look the same, nor all africans, so why should all jews be identical?

 

[Hossfly]

Jewish communities in Europe and the Middle East share many genes inherited from the ancestral Jewish population that lived in the Middle East some 3,000 years ago, even though each community also carries genes from other sources — usually the country in which it lives.

You have quoted an old study, year 2010.

I have quoted newer studies, that debunk the old studies.

Jews are mosaic of many different people and even races, like any other religious group (Islam or Christianity).

And if you have two mosaics, you can always find some pieces that match and some pieces that are different.

That is precisely what Zionists tried to do. They just ignored the pieces that do not match and emphasized on the pieces that are similar.

But this is not a scientific approach!!!

Yes, there are a few ME genes that are common to some Jewish communities, but that does not prove that these genes were inherited from Hebrews, and that the bulk of their genome is similar.

ME is a huge area, and it is possible that these genes were inherited from pagans, who converted to Judaism in the Middle ages.

Diversity was present from Jewish beginnings, when various Semitic and Mediterranean peoples came together to form the Israelites of long ago. The genetic picture was clearly enriched during the Diaspora, when Jews spread far and wide across Europe, attracting converts and intermarrying over time with their European hosts. The most recent DNA evidence indicates that from this blending of Middle Eastern and European ancestors, the diverse DNA ancestry of the Ashkenazi Jews emerged.


Although the debate over the fate of the Khazars is far from over, DNA research suggests that remnants of these mysterious people continue to exist within the genetic makeup of Ashkenazi Jews. In fact, the Levite results indicate that the Khazars became fully integrated into the Ashkenazi communities and came to play an important role within the Jewish priesthood.


The Cohanim results do not disprove the genetic contribution of the Khazars. Rather, the DNA studies indicate that Jews are not entirely Khazarian, Israelite or European in genetic makeup, but a complex and unique mixture of all these peoples.

A Reassessment of the Jewish DNA Evidence

In any case, the predominant ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews who are not from the Cohan-Clan has nothing to do with the ME, and these ancestors that can be traced to the ME were not necessary Jews 2000 years ago. They may have been pagans that converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages.

A huge umber of people converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam, and many pagans converted to Judaism before the Muslims and Christians restricted Jews from their missionary work.

Any Palestinian Christian or Muslim has more Israelite/Hebrew ancestry, than any Zionist from Europe who calls himself "Jew".

It seems that Zionists believe in "racial purity" of Jews even more than that was the case with the National Socialists, who admitted that there was a huge number of converts from and to Judaism.

The sources of error are above all to be found in the nature of Jewry and its historical development, the many thousands of years of restless wandering, the numerous conversions to and from Judaism, the efforts of the Jews to integrate, the interbreeding with the native populations, the efforts of the Jews to avoid registration and lastly in erroneous or falsely interpreted statistics of Jewry.
...
The avowal of Mosaic or Jewish faith is also no foolproof evidence, because as a result of the former Jewish missionary movement with its conversion of masses of heathens and Christians, also because of changes of faith in modern times via mixed marriages and conversions, there are more than a few people of Jewish faith who are not racially Jewish.
...
According to Maurice Fishberg and Mathias Mieses, three times the present Jewish population have been absorbed by Aryan Europe. Even Hans Gunther estimates the Jewish population of Germany at double the number of Jews of mosaic faith with German nationality. Finally, the Lithuanian Jew Brutzkus goes so far as to classify the Berlin Jews on the basis of their blood composition as being purer Europeans than the Germans in Berlin.

The Korherr Report www.HolocaustResearchProject.org

As we see, even the National Socialists had to admit that many Jews (especially the Jews from Berlin) were of pure European descent.

That is the conclusion of two new genetic surveys....

These are old and debunked surveys, they only emphasized on the direct male lineage and fully ignored the female lineage or the autosomal DNA (speak the total number of ancestors).

Here is a new study (11 July 2013)

The origins of Ashkenazi Jews—the great majority of living Jews—remain highly contested and enigmatic to this day1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. The Ashkenazim are Jews with a recent ancestry in central and Eastern Europe, in contrast to Sephardim (with an ancestry in Iberia, followed by exile after 1492), Mizrahim (who have always resided in the Near East) and North African Jews (comprising both Sephardim and Mizrahim). There is consensus that all Jewish Diaspora groups, including the Ashkenazim, trace their ancestry, at least in part, to the Levant, ~2,000–3,000 years ago5, 12, 13, 14.

A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages Nature Communications Nature Publishing Group

So yes, some Jews (especially the Cohen-Clans, about 3% of all male Jews), can trace their direct male to the Levant.

But does this prove that these male ancestors, who lived 2000-3000 years ago in the Levant, were really Hebrews?

No, of course not!!!

It is proven that the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews had different female ancestors, because the oriental males married local women in Europe or North Africa

The conversion to Judaism does not change your genes, it is possible that the male ancestors, too, who can trace their ancestry to the orient, were pagans who converted to Judaism only in the Middle Ages.

In any case, Ashkenazi are more related to Slavs and Khazars, than to Oriental Jews.

They are not Semites!!!!

On the other hand, Palestinian Muslims and Christians are more related to Oriental Jews, than these oriental Jews are related to Ashkenazi Jews.

You do not have to do a genetic study to see that, Ashkenazi Jews look totally different, they are not Semites, they are predominantly of non-Semitic origin.

So the "anti-Semitism"- argument is idiotic, the Ashkenazi Jews hate Semites, even those Semites, that are Oriental Jews.

Most Ashkenazi Jews think that they are superior, because other Jews (especially the Ethiopian Jews) have a darker skin and a lower IQ.

The IQ study of Jews in Israel proves that the IQ of oriental Semitic Jews is lower than the IQ of white European Jews (but similar to the IQ of other non-Jewish Semites), and the most plausible explanation is that European Jews heavily intermixed with Europeans and this way increased their IQ.

So the IQ-tests is another prove that Ashkenazi Jews are not Semites, their IQ is higher than the IQ of real Semites, be they Muslims, Jews or Christians.

It's amusing to see the anti-Semites constantly bring up this thing about Europeans not being Jews. This is brought up all the time that you can bet on it and win. However, Art, it was your Nazi ancestors who were the ones busily murdering millions of people who didn't fit their standard of racial superiority.. By the way, did you know that the poster girl for being a pure Aryan was Jewish? The Nazis' faces would have turned red if they knew of this. Ask all your NeoNazi friends what they think about dem apples.

Jewish woman who was Nazi poster child I had the last laugh - Telegraph

 

[Penelope]

Jew is not a race. Christianity is not a race, nor is Muslim. They want it to be race as they want a jewish state, how racist is that. Since jews refer to themselves as Semites they are descendants of Shem.

We must never forget Stalin Jews:

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD.
Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...342999,00.html

 

[Hossfly]

When you go to the Jewish Ency they spell it Chazars, why do you think there were do many Jews in Ukraine and Russia.

Well, you only have to look at different Jews.

Some of them have blue eyes and blond hair and look like typical North Europeans.
Some of them look like typical Mongolians.
Some of them look like typical black Africans.
Some of them look like typical Arabs.

Some of them look like a mixture of many different races.

And many of them look like a mixture of the population of North Caucasus (North Caucasus was part of Khazaria) and Europeans, and these "mongrels" are called "Ashkenazi".

Some uneducated people believe that Ashkenazi are the real Jews and that real Jews have to look like Ashkenazi.

Only Ashkenazi Jews have Kazarian-Armenian noses and often white skin, because they intermixed with Slavs.

The real Semitic people do not have big Armenian noses, have they?

Do Arab girls do a "nose job"?
Are they unhappy with their noses?

No, only Ashkenazi girls are unhappy with their Khazarian-Armenian noses:

There comes a time in every young Jewish woman’s life when she must face a very serious dilemma: Nose job or used car? It’s a tough choice and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. One means the freedom of travel, the other means the freedom to not look so Jewish.

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Well, Ethiopian or any other oriental Jewish girls are quite happy with their Jewish Semitic noses, and what Ashkenazi call "Jewish nose" is in reality a Khazar-Armenian nose.

You will find a lot of people on the territory of the former Khazaria (North Caucasus) with such big noses, but you will not find this nose type among the Semitic people.

Lebanese, turks even egyptian have a wide variety of features.
how many were raped by the greeks of romans? How many were taken as slaves? How many married outside the faith?
Some clung desperately to marry within their faith but some did not. Judaism has a variety of level and sects from ultra orthodox to reform. Jews existed on nearly every region of the world.
Not all europeans look the same, nor all africans, so why should all jews be identical?

Evidently Art, the anti-Semite, is not up on all the plastic surgery which women want in other Middle East countries. For all we know, Art himself has a big nose since there are lots of Germans who have them and they aren't Jewish..

 

[teddyearp]

I have no doubts that the Jewish religion would die out.

Correction. I highly doubt that the Jewish religion would have died out.

 

[teddyearp]

<snip>, but not Jews, they are special and deserve to be worshipped and the "chosen ones" bow down now, and ask a Jew for forgiveness, and then worship there , your doing just fine.

What???

 

[Hossfly]

Now Penelope is going to tell us which hate site she first found out about the Khazars. From 200 to choose from, it must have been quite a job. Did you see the latest bit about the DNA studies which of course little NeoNazis like you would never accept because the Khazar shtick fits in more with your agenda. Penelope's DNA probably matches up with the Nazis. Goebbels or even Hitler a distant relative, Penelope?

You can read about them in the Jewish encyl. There are no DNA studies specific for Jews and Ashkenazim are from Europe not the Levant. There is no special Jewish blood or DNA. Judeans were said to be jews, not all Israelites by the way. Is-Ra-El would be the only reason for Jacob to mediate on changing his name.

Why not do some research on the latest findings of the DNA studies, Penelope? I think many of us realize by now that you are an anti-Semite and can't find enough derogatory things to say about the Jews. Do you think that you can break down and tell us what NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate site you first learned about these "Khazars?" That was the only way you would have initially even heard the word "Khazar." It would be interesting to know how many of the anti-Semites here use the same hate site. Meanwhile, many Germans settled in the area of America Penelope claims she lives in, and I would be willing to bet that she has the same DNA as the Nazis who hated the Jews as she does.

The Nazis don't have DNA , Nazism is the German Socialist Workers Party. I have researched the DNA and there is no Jewish DNA, the most that can do is tell what part of the globe that person had more in common with, and the Ashkenazim have more in common with the eastern European area, not the Levant. Facts are facts. There are not many races, 4 or they say 5 at the most, and it goes by physical features of the head and face and skin color. Lets face it , even the Jewish Library says the diaspora begun in 500 bc and in 300 bc, the Jews from Babylon and Judea had intermarried , even the Priests. So unless that person practices Judaism, they are Judaic, but Jew is an old term used for those who lived in Judea. They turned into other people. Since so many were in the Kiev area, they must of been a different people with a different language.

You are trying so hard here Penelope, just like a Nazi would, but you are getting to sound so desperate in trying to prove that certain Jews are really not Jews. Sieg Heil. Those World War II Nazis would have been proud of you. Do your research on the latest findings about the Jews. Then do your research to find that we all have part of our DNA showing that we come out of Africa. Isn't that something? Africa is certainly a far cry from your home.

Oh we are all mixed breeds, I have no illusions, even Obama said he was a mutt , but not Jews, they are special and deserve to be worshipped and the "chosen ones" bow down now, and ask a Jew for forgiveness, and then worship there , your doing just fine.

When you go to the Jewish Ency they spell it Chazars, why do you think there were do many Jews in Ukraine and Russia.

Fuk ya.

 

[teddyearp]

So, since we are for now on such a side track, who are these folks, or what is their background?:

 

[Hossfly]

So, since we are for now on such a side track, who are these folks, or what is their background?:

They're ogres who guard the bridge and you have to solve a riddle in order to cross?

 

[toastman]

Jew is not a race. Christianity is not a race, nor is Muslim. They want it to be race as they want a jewish state, how racist is that. Since jews refer to themselves as Semites they are descendants of Shem.

We must never forget Stalin Jews:

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD.
Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...342999,00.html

Pakistan and Iran are both called the 'Islamic Republic' . IS that also racist ?

You have a seriously demented obsession with Jews. WTF does Stalin's Jews have to do with anything?? Please tell your doctor you need new meds !

 

[Phoenall]

There is no absolute proof of the Khazars ever having existed outside of the realms of fiction.

That is what you believe in, and any religious believer is sure that there is no prove that Dinosaurs existed.



Sorry, but I do not have any time to discuss on this level.

Just as there is no proof that the Protocols where written by Jews

The protocols were written by an unknown author who seems to be a prophet.

The anonymous author of this dystopian literature had chosen to write his piece of literature (fiction) as a protocol.

But how many dystopian novels are written as diaries or accounts of fictional persons?

Does that mean that a novel that is written in the genre of a fictional diary is a fake?

Only fools can assume that the chosen by the author literary genre of fictional protocols means that this piece of dystopian literature does not have any value and is a "fake".

Did the author of this fiction really claim that there were really some protocols?

No, because we only have this piece of literature, but the author is unknown.

The predictive power of Orwell's dystopian novels (like "1984") or the the anonymous "Protocols" (that is also dystopian literature, though the author is unknown), makes these fiction works so important.

The protocols were written by a Russian author and then altered during the reign of the communists. The islamonazi's got hold and created a whole fiction around them. Compared to the original book it is full of fantasy and make believe.
The author didn't make any claims, that was left to the muslims to do, and like UN res 242 they alter to suit their POV

As for the dinosaurs we have fossil records that prove their existence, and it is only religious extremists that deny their existence.
We have no evidence prior to the fictional account of there ever existed a group known as the Khazars.

 

[Phoenall]

I have researched the DNA and there is no Jewish DNA

Yes, it is obvious that the conversion to any religion, even to Judaism, does not change the genes.

So what are the results of the old and debunked genetic studies, sponsored by Zionists?

They came to the conclusion, that some Ashkenazi males had direct male ancestors that can be traced to the ME.

But what is ME?

It is a huge area, 100 bigger, that Palestine.

Many pagans converted to Judaism only in the Middle Ages, Khazars were only one of pagan tribes that converted to Judaism. Many Slavs converted to Judaism, too.

In North Africa and Yemen there were many other ME pagans, that converted to Judaism in the 5th century AD or later.

At his insistence, the two Jewish savants accompanied the Ḥimyarite king back to his capital, where he demanded that all his people convert to Judaism. Initially, there was great resistance, but after an ordeal had justified the king's demand and confirmed the truth of the Jewish faith, many Himyarites embraced Judaism. Such conversions, by ordeal, were not uncommon in Arabia. Some historians argue that the conversions occurred, not due to political motivations, but because Judaism, by its philosophical, simplistic and austere nature, was attractive to the nature of the Semitic people.[9]

Himyarite Kingdom - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

And if you look up my quote above, you will find out that even National-Socialists did not believe that everybody who called himself a "Jew" was of Hebrew ancestry.

It seems that some Zionists believe in the racial purity of Jews even more, than that was the case with National Socialists.

Pure FANTASY as the Khazars are not proven to have existed.

As for genetic studies these have found 2 distinct genetic traits that trace back 4,500 years and show the DNA of two tribes of Jews. One is known as the Cohen gene as it is the most well known and found genetic trait in Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Now Penelope is going to tell us which hate site she first found out about the Khazars. From 200 to choose from, it must have been quite a job. Did you see the latest bit about the DNA studies which of course little NeoNazis like you would never accept because the Khazar shtick fits in more with your agenda. Penelope's DNA probably matches up with the Nazis. Goebbels or even Hitler a distant relative, Penelope?

You can read about them in the Jewish encyl. There are no DNA studies specific for Jews and Ashkenazim are from Europe not the Levant. There is no special Jewish blood or DNA. Judeans were said to be jews, not all Israelites by the way. Is-Ra-El would be the only reason for Jacob to mediate on changing his name.

Why not do some research on the latest findings of the DNA studies, Penelope? I think many of us realize by now that you are an anti-Semite and can't find enough derogatory things to say about the Jews. Do you think that you can break down and tell us what NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate site you first learned about these "Khazars?" That was the only way you would have initially even heard the word "Khazar." It would be interesting to know how many of the anti-Semites here use the same hate site. Meanwhile, many Germans settled in the area of America Penelope claims she lives in, and I would be willing to bet that she has the same DNA as the Nazis who hated the Jews as she does.

The Nazis don't have DNA , Nazism is the German Socialist Workers Party. I have researched the DNA and there is no Jewish DNA, the most that can do is tell what part of the globe that person had more in common with, and the Ashkenazim have more in common with the eastern European area, not the Levant. Facts are facts. There are not many races, 4 or they say 5 at the most, and it goes by physical features of the head and face and skin color. Lets face it , even the Jewish Library says the diaspora begun in 500 bc and in 300 bc, the Jews from Babylon and Judea had intermarried , even the Priests. So unless that person practices Judaism, they are Judaic, but Jew is an old term used for those who lived in Judea. They turned into other people. Since so many were in the Kiev area, they must of been a different people with a different language.

You are trying so hard here Penelope, just like a Nazi would, but you are getting to sound so desperate in trying to prove that certain Jews are really not Jews. Sieg Heil. Those World War II Nazis would have been proud of you. Do your research on the latest findings about the Jews. Then do your research to find that we all have part of our DNA showing that we come out of Africa. Isn't that something? Africa is certainly a far cry from your home.

Oh we are all mixed breeds, I have no illusions, even Obama said he was a mutt , but not Jews, they are special and deserve to be worshipped and the "chosen ones" bow down now, and ask a Jew for forgiveness, and then worship there , your doing just fine.

When you go to the Jewish Ency they spell it Chazars, why do you think there were do many Jews in Ukraine and Russia.

If you look you will see that it is the muslims that make that claim, the Jews admit that they have admixtures of genes from many converts and this led to a stronger race. Look at muslim interbreeding and you see the extent of this practise. Then they have the nerve to abandon their deformed children on the state and carry on breeding .

If you need to ask such stupid questions then you don't know your geography, but why are there so many muslims in Russia ?

 

[Art__Allm]

Not all europeans look the same, nor all africans, so why should all jews be identical?

Well, all real Europeans look very similar. This changed only in the last years, after the migration of non-Europeans to Europe.

And European ethnic groups look even more similar.

If Jews were an ethnic group, not a religion, then they would look similar, too.

Jews claim that they are Semites and that they are "returning" to the land of their ancetors, that is why they have to prove that they are really Semites and are really returning to the land of their ancestors.

Europeans do not have to prove anything. They are living on the land of their ancestors, like Palestinians are living on the land of their ancestors.

 

[Art__Allm]

It's amusing to see the anti-Semites...

Why do wanna-be Semites constantly talk about "anti-Semites"?
Can the wanna-be Semites prove that they are really Semites?

 

[Phoenall]

Not all europeans look the same, nor all africans, so why should all jews be identical?

Well, all real Europeans look very similar. This changed only in the last years, after the migration of non-Europeans to Europe.

And European ethnic groups look even more similar.

If Jews were an ethnic group, not a religion, then they would look similar, too.

Jews claim that they are Semites and that they are "returning" to the land of their ancetors, that is why they have to prove that they are really Semites and are really returning to the land of their ancestors.

Europeans do not have to prove anything. They are living on the land of their ancestors, like Palestinians are living on the land of their ancestors.

SO SO WRONG A Scotsman can be distinguished from an Englishman very easily due to hair colour and complexion. The French look totally different to the Germans and so on. Only a complete racist idiot would say that all real Europeans look similar, the only similarities are those of numbers of arms, legs, eyes and their positions. The Jews have already accomplished that task by showing the majority have the DNA as the Jews of 4,500 years ago. The arab muslims in Palestine that have been tested match to Egyptians, Syrians and Iraqi's showing they are very recent immigrants.

 

[Phoenall]

It's amusing to see the anti-Semites...

Why do wanna-be Semites constantly talk about "anti-Semites"?
Can the wanna-be Semites prove that they are really Semites?

Because to call doubt on the evidence of them being Jews is anti Semitism

They already have.

 

[Art__Allm]

...the Jews admit that they have admixtures of genes from many converts and this led to a stronger race.

There are many different Jewish races.
Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Ethipian Jews and Asian Jews are completely different groups that did not intermix till the creation of Israel.

Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews who lived in Europe had different communities, different Synagogues, and even different Cemeteries. They never intermixed.

And even in Israel these groups are separated. The white European Jews are hated by dark skinned Jews, and vice versa. They have segregated schools, and the black Jewish women were even treated with Depo-Provera against their will.

White Jewish doctors managed to reduce the fertility of black Jewish women to a minimum, meanwhile the fertility of white Jewish women increased in the last decades.

Is that not a crime, committed by white racists in Israel?

Israel's health ministry is investigating claims that Ethiopian women are being injected with a controversial contraceptive without their knowledge or consent.

Thousands of Ethiopian women are said to be receiving shots of Depo-Provera every three months in Israeli clinics. The contraceptive stops menstruation and has been linked to fertility problems and osteoporosis.

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