In Historic 6-3 Supreme Court Decision, 3 Justices Ruled To Be Morons

When given a chance to rule on the 14th amendment….The court punted
As they should have. That is a separate issue that should make its way through the courts separately, while allowing Trump's EO on that very thing to stay in effect until it reaches the court with the actual power to stop Trump should they feel the need to.
 
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So Barron may not be a citizen? Melania gave birth prior to her becoming a citizen. I suppose Barron could become a naturized citizen? He will need to take classes.
you all are brain dead retards, again for the slow and exceedingly STUPID, if one parent is a US citizen them the child is also.
 
What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to such children.

Critics claim that anyone born in the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen, even if their parents are here illegally. But that ignores the text and legislative history of the 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868 to extend citizenship to freed slaves and their children.

The 14th Amendment doesn’t say that all persons born in the U.S. are citizens. It says that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” are citizens. That second, critical, conditional phrase is conveniently ignored or misinterpreted by advocates of “birthright” citizenship.

Critics erroneously believe that anyone present in the United States has “subjected” himself “to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which would extend citizenship to the children of tourists, diplomats, and illegal aliens alike.

But that is not what that qualifying phrase means. Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over that individual.

The fact that a tourist or illegal alien is subject to our laws and our courts if they violate our laws does not place them within the political “jurisdiction” of the United States as that phrase was defined by the framers of the 14th Amendment.

This amendment’s language was derived from the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which provided that “[a]ll persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power” would be considered citizens.

Sen. Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. included not owing allegiance to any other country.

As John Eastman, former dean of the Chapman School of Law, has said, many do not seem to understand “the distinction between partial, territorial jurisdiction, which subjects all who are present within the territory of a sovereign to the jurisdiction of that sovereign’s laws, and complete political jurisdiction, which requires allegiance to the sovereign as well.”

In the famous Slaughter-House cases of 1872, the Supreme Court stated that this qualifying phrase was intended to exclude “children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.” This was confirmed in 1884 in another case, Elk vs. Wilkins, when citizenship was denied to an American Indian because he “owed immediate allegiance to” his tribe and not the United States.

American Indians and their children did not become citizens until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. There would have been no need to pass such legislation if the 14th Amendment extended citizenship to every person born in America, no matter what the circumstances of their birth, and no matter who their parents are.

Even in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, the 1898 case most often cited by “birthright” supporters due to its overbroad language, the court only held that a child born of lawful, permanent residents was a U.S. citizen. That is a far cry from saying that a child born of individuals who are here illegally must be considered a U.S. citizen.

Of course, the judges in that case were strongly influenced by the fact that there were discriminatory laws in place at that time that restricted Chinese immigration, a situation that does not exist today.

The court’s interpretation of the 14th Amendment as extending to the children of legal, noncitizens was incorrect, according to the text and legislative history of the amendment. But even under that holding, citizenship was not extended to the children of illegal aliens—only permanent, legal residents.

It is just plain wrong to claim that the children born of parents temporarily in the country as students or tourists are automatically U.S. citizens: They do not meet the 14th Amendment’s jurisdictional allegiance obligations. They are, in fact, subject to the political jurisdiction (and allegiance) of the country of their parents. The same applies to the children of illegal aliens because children born in the United States to foreign citizens are citizens of their parents’ home country.

Federal law offers them no help either. U.S. immigration law (8 U.S.C. § 1401) simply repeats the language of the 14th Amendment, including the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

The State Department has erroneously interpreted that statute to provide passports to anyone born in the United States, regardless of whether their parents are here illegally and regardless of whether the applicant meets the requirement of being “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. Accordingly, birthright citizenship has been implemented by executive fiat, not because it is required by federal law or the Constitution.

We are only one of a very small number of countries that provides birthright citizenship, and we do so based not upon the requirements of federal law or the Constitution, but based upon an erroneous executive interpretation. Congress should clarify the law according to the original meaning of the 14th Amendment and reverse this practice.


While true
This ruling has absolutely nothing to do with Birthright Citizenship

That is down the road.
 
How else does a lower court rule on whether someone is a citizen or not?
If you are a citizen in one state, you are a citizen in all.

The Supreme Court kicked the can down the road and Trump is laughing at the lower court.


No. The heart of the decision is a little District Court Judge does not have the authority to issue nationwide injunctions in an effort to thwart the will of the Executive Branch and President that was elected by We the People.

Law is always about remedy. Period. The remedy for an Executive Branch decision that a single District Court Judge thinks is Unconstitutional or Unlawful, is not for the Judge to act Unconstitutionally or Unlawfully.

A District Court Judge gets his scope of authority from We the People through our Congress. No District Court Judge was ever granted the authority by the Congress, and more importantly, We the People, to issue such nationwide injunctions.

That was the 6-3 ruling of the Supreme Court today. And winger, don't you Dims love the courts and the Rule of Law? :lol:
 
As they should have. That is a separate issue that should make its way through the courts separately, while allowing Trump's EO on that very thing to stay in effect until it reaches the court with the actual power to stop Trump should they feel the need to.

Once again, the court has ceded judicial oversight to the President.

Last year they ruled that a President is above the law for anything that can be construed as an official act

Today they ruled a President can do whatever he wishes and ignore lower courts. Then the court can rule whenever they get around to it, if ever.
 
Once again, the court has ceded judicial oversight to the President.

Last year they ruled that a President is above the law for anything that can be construed as an official act

Today they ruled a President can do whatever he wishes and ignore lower courts. Then the court can rule whenever they get around to it, if ever.
You don't need to lie.
 
Man...
Barret HAMMERS Jackson here
To paraphrase: You're a stupid, lazy, imperial *****
5 other justices concur


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The upshot of this decision, for now, seems to be exactly the crazy patchwork scenario we were warned about:

  • the lower-court injunctions continue to protect the parties (immigrant orgs, individuals and 22 states) from Trump's EO
  • the EO can (and will) be enforced in the other 28 states


Which means a baby born in New York to undocumented parents will be a citizen. But a baby born to undocumented parents in Kentucky will not be a citizen.

Crazy town.
 
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