Zone1 In 3 to 5 years we won't be able to defend ourselves from Russia??, so we need to invest not 2% but 5% of GDP into the national defense industries??

[GavanPeacefan]

"In 3 to 5 years we won't be able to defend ourselves from Russia - so we need to invest not 2% but 5% of GDP into the national defense industries" -- Mark Rutte, 2025-June-25th, 12:00CEST AMS timezone, my reply : PROVE PLEASE of that 3 to 5 years. IN DETAIL. UNREFUTABLE PLEASE!

 

[rightwinger]

Russia can’t even defeat Ukraine
With losses in the war, they are now a second rate military power

 

[luiza]

"In 3 to 5 years we won't be able to defend ourselves from Russia -

Bit late .
You would not even compete now .

Ukraine is a nice easy example .
US and NATO mercenaries are being overrun by the Russian lads

You have also just demonstrated your inabilities in this Fake Bomb Buster operation .

125 planes to deliver a couple of 14 ton bombs per plane for a zero result .


A positive result would have released enough radiation to poison the planet .

One Russian -Hyper Sonic missile would have successfully carried out the operation in 10 minutes

 

[sparky]

Sad that the MIC constitutes any manner of economic metric here ....~S~

 

[rightwinger]

The US spends 38 cents of every military dollar in the world. More than the next nine countries combined

No need to increase military spending

 

[shockedcanadian]

The future is in cheaper, rapidly mobile, A.I driven drones of all types. On the land, in the air, in the sea, eventually in space. If I were working for the U.S military in research and development, Id be focusing on a means to take down enemy satellites. You spend a few billions on that R&D and it is exponentially more valuable in a world war.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

"In 3 to 5 years we won't be able to defend ourselves from Russia - so we need to invest not 2% but 5% of GDP into the national defense industries" -- Mark Rutte, 2025-June-25th, 12:00CEST AMS timezone, my reply : PROVE PLEASE of that 3 to 5 years. IN DETAIL. UNREFUTABLE PLEASE!

 

[rightwinger]

The future is in cheaper, rapidly mobile, A.I driven drones of all types. On the land, in the air, in the sea, eventually in space. If I were working for the U.s mi!itarybin research and development, Id be focusing on a means to take down enemy satellites. You spend a few billions on that R&D and it is exponetially more valuable in a world war.

The future is also in cyber attacks that can cripple an enemy.

Boots on the ground and in the air are becoming obsolete

 

[GavanPeacefan]

AND TO THOSE IN LEADERSHIPS AND SUPPORTIVE FORCE GROUPS THEREOF I HAVE THIS TO SAY :
If you want to claim this is all an elaborate dance to secure our own solar system against invasion and takeover/destruction by space aliens, then I say : WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR THE FACT THAT SPACE ALIENS WOULD EVEN BE VISITING US FOR REAL?
Do you really believe we the peoples of NATO and it's allies believe we did NOT go from aliens-as-fantasy (science fiction, sci-fi) story telling into NASA + scarier and scarier 3D movies augmented with actors behind green screens making little kids but little kids only so far ACTUALLY believe that aliens could be in the next field, dissecting a cow for all sakes?
You keep that up, intensify it a bit more, for a few decades with the whole 'Mars mission' economic engine for the super rich, we down here will start wondering : ok, so what have we got since 1900? voting rights for women? check.

oh but wait. eh, guys, shit's hitting the fan right here. (lol).
government databases connected with inter-country, world-wide networking. underground. instead of warehouses filled with paper.
population monitoring. population control through taxation, policiing and psychiatric "services".
although i'm in good contact with all of the above right now, doesn't mean I can trust them.
NOT WHEN THE LIVES OF MY DEAREST FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS ARE AT STAKE AS WELL.

I'll spare you the gory details about how corruption works in the modern war economy for another part, another time. Possibly even only on my x.com page, the only other social media website that I use.

 

[Votto]

The US spends 38 cents of every military dollar in the world. More than the next nine countries combined

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No need to increase military spending

You idiot, the other countries depend on the US to defend them

 

[rightwinger]

You idiot, the other countries depend on the US to defend them

Very true

Allows them to spend money on modern infrastructure, free healthcare, free higher education.

US spends on bombs

It is a question of priorities

 

[Votto]

Very true

Allows them to spend money on modern infrastructure, free healthcare, free higher education.

US spends on bombs

It is a question of priorities

Its called military socialism, only, they don't pay their fair share of the military expenditures

But the gravy train is about to end as the US sinks into fiscal chaos from all the debt.

 

[1srelluc]

I really don't care what the rest of NATO does as long as it's made crystal clear that the US won't have their backs if they continue funding their social programs rather than funding their own defense.

NATO should be dissolved and separate mutual defense treaties forged with the nations willing to pay their way.

 

[rightwinger]

Its called military socialism, only, they don't pay their fair share of the military expenditures

But the gravy train is about to end as the US sinks into fiscal chaos from all the debt.

As it should

We need to scale back our global military footprint.
Required NATO, Japan, S Korea, Saudis to assume more of the global defense mission

Allow the US to spend more on modern infrastructure, healthcare, education

 

[rightwinger]

I really don't care what the rest of NATO does as long as it's made crystal clear that the US won't have their backs if they continue funding their social programs rather than funding their own defense.

NATO should be dissolved and separate mutual defense treaties forged with the nations willing to pay their way.

We need NATO

But with the US taking a lesser role

 

[GavanPeacefan]

 

[GavanPeacefan]

 

[rightwinger]

I visited Santorini

One of the most beautiful places on earth

 

[GavanPeacefan]

As it should

We need to scale back our global military footprint.
Required NATO, Japan, S Korea, Saudis to assume more of the global defense mission

Allow the US to spend more on modern infrastructure, healthcare, education

Dreams are beautiful, but pipe dreams don't outlast one's ability to keep them fed.
You want a welfare state. While the Chinese want to take over your state, and Europe. Along with the Indians and other brown skinnen scum rich that this world has plentiful.
We need to prune 'm, since they indicated "they'll play the ""game""[1] to the bitter end".

[1] the endless wars for global supremacy by a large country, group of countries, or (set(s) of) genetic backgrounds.

 

[Papageorgio]

As it should

We need to scale back our global military footprint.
Required NATO, Japan, S Korea, Saudis to assume more of the global defense mission

Allow the US to spend more on modern infrastructure, healthcare, education

We need to cut all spending, even the military, raise taxes on everyone rich and poor and get ourselves out of debt but that would be logical and take guts, America is now too soft for this.