In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota - and the election - to Trump

[Darkwind]

 

[Coyote]

If Trump wins, 2020 could possibly be the last Republican President.

Didn't they say the same about Bush?

Don't know. What I do know is that in a few years Texas will be majority Hispanic. When THAT state goes...it's curtains. And those curtains won't be opening again.

What makes you think hard-working Catholic Mexican-Americans won't vote Republican?

The Republicans.

 

[busybee01]

ME: In the end, it will be Democrats' own insanioty and extremism that losed them the election. There are many examples in this forum. Her is anpother:

Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota - and the election - to Trump
Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota -- and the election -- to Trump

Brief excerpt: ".......But Trump is not a “normal” Republican. He only lost Minnesota by a little more than 40,000 votes in 2016. Mitt Romney lost by more than 200,000.

And that only tells part of the story. Many Republicans concerned about Trump voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson, who received more than 112,000 votes, or conservative Trump critic Evan McMullin, who garnered more than 53,000 votes. It’s unlikely similar candidates will get the same level of support in 2020, which means Trump should have a better shot in Minnesota than he did in 2016.

Trump also dramatically outperformed other Republicans running for statewide offices in 2012, 2014 and 2018.

There’s another great reason to believe Trump has a good shot of winning Minnesota: Democrats are increasingly moving away from the policies swing voters in the state have long valued in favor of radical progressivism and even socialism. Democrats have moved so far to the left during the current election cycle that it’s becoming difficult to tell the difference between their party's platform and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Democrats no longer represent the party of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton. If Minnesota’s more moderate Democrats realize that, it could mean huge trouble for whomever the party’s left-wing base chooses to face off against Trump. And there’s a great reason to believe they will take notice thanks in part to freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar.

To say Omar has had an absolutely disastrous first term in office would be an understatement. Not only has she been plagued by questions about potential violations of campaign finance rules and immigration laws and remarks some have deemed to be anti-Semitic, she has also routinely advocated for some of the most radical, socialistic policies offered in decades — including "Medicare-for-All," the "cancellation" of all student loan debt, and the craziest proposal of all: the Green New Deal.

The Green New Deal, the brainchild of fellow socialist radical New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, would destroy millions of jobs by completely eliminating the fossil-fuel industry — almost overnight — and forcing people to purchase much more expensive renewable energy. It would also impose other socialist schemes, including basic income programs, a federal jobs guarantee, single-payer health care, a slew of “social justice” programs, and a whole new system of publicly-owned banks.

This radical socialist proposal might be a popular idea among elites in parts of the Northeast and on the West Coast, but it isn’t the sort of thing middle-of-the-road Democrats have historically backed in the heart of the Midwest......(SNIP)

More wishful thinking. Trump attacking Omar has helped her. There is no way in hell Minnesota will vote for Trump. Voters will reject Trump because of his extreme right wing views. Trump is in big trouble in Arizona, Texas and probably Georgia as well.

 

[JGalt]

ME: In the end, it will be Democrats' own insanioty and extremism that losed them the election. There are many examples in this forum. Her is anpother:

Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota - and the election - to Trump
Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota -- and the election -- to Trump

Brief excerpt: ".......But Trump is not a “normal” Republican. He only lost Minnesota by a little more than 40,000 votes in 2016. Mitt Romney lost by more than 200,000.

And that only tells part of the story. Many Republicans concerned about Trump voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson, who received more than 112,000 votes, or conservative Trump critic Evan McMullin, who garnered more than 53,000 votes. It’s unlikely similar candidates will get the same level of support in 2020, which means Trump should have a better shot in Minnesota than he did in 2016.

Trump also dramatically outperformed other Republicans running for statewide offices in 2012, 2014 and 2018.

There’s another great reason to believe Trump has a good shot of winning Minnesota: Democrats are increasingly moving away from the policies swing voters in the state have long valued in favor of radical progressivism and even socialism. Democrats have moved so far to the left during the current election cycle that it’s becoming difficult to tell the difference between their party's platform and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Democrats no longer represent the party of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton. If Minnesota’s more moderate Democrats realize that, it could mean huge trouble for whomever the party’s left-wing base chooses to face off against Trump. And there’s a great reason to believe they will take notice thanks in part to freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar.

To say Omar has had an absolutely disastrous first term in office would be an understatement. Not only has she been plagued by questions about potential violations of campaign finance rules and immigration laws and remarks some have deemed to be anti-Semitic, she has also routinely advocated for some of the most radical, socialistic policies offered in decades — including "Medicare-for-All," the "cancellation" of all student loan debt, and the craziest proposal of all: the Green New Deal.

The Green New Deal, the brainchild of fellow socialist radical New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, would destroy millions of jobs by completely eliminating the fossil-fuel industry — almost overnight — and forcing people to purchase much more expensive renewable energy. It would also impose other socialist schemes, including basic income programs, a federal jobs guarantee, single-payer health care, a slew of “social justice” programs, and a whole new system of publicly-owned banks.

This radical socialist proposal might be a popular idea among elites in parts of the Northeast and on the West Coast, but it isn’t the sort of thing middle-of-the-road Democrats have historically backed in the heart of the Midwest......(SNIP)

More wishful thinking. Trump attacking Omar has helped her. There is no way in hell Minnesota will vote for Trump. Voters will reject Trump because of his extreme right wing views. Trump is in big trouble in Arizona, Texas and probably Georgia as well.

Of course Minnesota supports Omar, Captain Obvious. Minnesota is closest thing to Alabama that we have up here in Yankeeland. Half the people in the state of Minnesota are married to their brother, their sister, or their livestock.

(All apologies to Alabama.)

 

[Terri4Trump]

Democrats' Plan to Destroy the Jobs Boom
Real Clear Politics :: Democrats' Plan to Destroy the Jobs Boom | RealClearPolitics

If you're looking for work, this is the best job market in 50 years. The economy is soaring. But Democrats running for president are pitching plans that will destroy millions of jobs, doubling the number of people out of work.

Consider "Medicare for All." It could wipe out a staggering 2.5 million health insurance and health care jobs nationwide, causing the number of unemployed people in this country to jump by almost half. New research by Stanford University doctors in the Journal of the American Medical Association shows that Medicare for All will cause hospitals to lose a whopping $151 billion in payments the first year. Hospitals will be forced to eliminate as many as 1.5 million jobs overnight.......

.............Dems are also campaigning to wipe out jobs in the oil, gas and coal industries. It's a direct attack on Trump country. Mining and oil and gas extraction lost jobs big time during the last two years of the Obama administration, but Trump's policies are succeeding in gradually restoring them.......

 

[Coyote]

The energy sector has always run boom or bust. The market, with cheap natural gas and decades of automation are what is killing coal. Trump offered up a false front and voters bought it.

 

[Terri4Trump]

The energy sector has always run boom or bust. The market, with cheap natural gas and decades of automation are what is killing coal. Trump offered up a false front and voters bought it.

Obama tried to destroy it with regulation and Trump brought it back. THAT is the fact.

 

[OnePercenter]

If Trump wins, 2020 could possibly be the last Republican President.

Didn't they say the same about Bush?

Don't know. What I do know is that in a few years Texas will be majority Hispanic. When THAT state goes...it's curtains. And those curtains won't be opening again.

You might be surprised about latinos in Texas. They're not like the welfare bums in California. All the high paying jobs for them is in the oil field and they damn sure won't support the new green deal which would put them all out of a job.

You think that $16.67/hr is "high pay?"

A hell of a lot better than no job at all. If the oil field crashes in Texas and the latiinos lose their jobs the economy will crash.

Good luck with the green raw deal.

You think that $16.67/hr is "high pay?"

 

[OnePercenter]

The energy sector has always run boom or bust. The market, with cheap natural gas and decades of automation are what is killing coal. Trump offered up a false front and voters bought it.

Obama tried to destroy it with regulation and Trump brought it back. THAT is the fact.

The fact is natural gas is cheaper, the commodities market did that.

 

[Crixus]

If Trump wins, 2020 could possibly be the last Republican President.

Doesn't matter, they way he's packing the lower courts and the high probability of another conservative on the Supreme Court. Donald Trump has permanently altered the cellular structure of this country.

That being said, given the dismal quality of candidates the Democrats have dredged up, Trump is a sure winner in 2020.

Not so fast. John Roberts. Unless we can get Buzzy to hurry up and die, and have one more superman court justice aside from her appointed, the SCOTUS will not have changed because of John Roberts.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Don't know. What I do know is that in a few years Texas will be majority Hispanic. When THAT state goes...it's curtains. And those curtains won't be opening again.

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

 

[Thinker101]

If Trump wins, 2020 could possibly be the last Republican President.

What? You mean by 2024 Democrats will be offering free cars, free rent and free Starbucks?

 

[JGalt]

Don't know. What I do know is that in a few years Texas will be majority Hispanic. When THAT state goes...it's curtains. And those curtains won't be opening again.

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

Good point. Naturalized American Hispanics generally tend to abhor abortion, since they are primarily Catholic in nature. They believe that a marriage is between one man and one woman, and think that homosexuality is wrong. They also dislike the fact that illegal border-crossers are stealing their jobs, their tax money, and their resources.

I lived in Texas for a little over 25 years, so I know this to be true.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Don't know. What I do know is that in a few years Texas will be majority Hispanic. When THAT state goes...it's curtains. And those curtains won't be opening again.

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

Horseshit. That is a Boomer Cuck talking point. Hispanics and white conservatives have fuck all in common if you take away Jesus.
Conservative whites don't even have large families anymore, for the most part.

 

[lantern2814]

ME: In the end, it will be Democrats' own insanioty and extremism that losed them the election. There are many examples in this forum. Her is anpother:

Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota - and the election - to Trump
Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota -- and the election -- to Trump

Brief excerpt: ".......But Trump is not a “normal” Republican. He only lost Minnesota by a little more than 40,000 votes in 2016. Mitt Romney lost by more than 200,000.

And that only tells part of the story. Many Republicans concerned about Trump voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson, who received more than 112,000 votes, or conservative Trump critic Evan McMullin, who garnered more than 53,000 votes. It’s unlikely similar candidates will get the same level of support in 2020, which means Trump should have a better shot in Minnesota than he did in 2016.

Trump also dramatically outperformed other Republicans running for statewide offices in 2012, 2014 and 2018.

There’s another great reason to believe Trump has a good shot of winning Minnesota: Democrats are increasingly moving away from the policies swing voters in the state have long valued in favor of radical progressivism and even socialism. Democrats have moved so far to the left during the current election cycle that it’s becoming difficult to tell the difference between their party's platform and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Democrats no longer represent the party of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton. If Minnesota’s more moderate Democrats realize that, it could mean huge trouble for whomever the party’s left-wing base chooses to face off against Trump. And there’s a great reason to believe they will take notice thanks in part to freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar.

To say Omar has had an absolutely disastrous first term in office would be an understatement. Not only has she been plagued by questions about potential violations of campaign finance rules and immigration laws and remarks some have deemed to be anti-Semitic, she has also routinely advocated for some of the most radical, socialistic policies offered in decades — including "Medicare-for-All," the "cancellation" of all student loan debt, and the craziest proposal of all: the Green New Deal.

The Green New Deal, the brainchild of fellow socialist radical New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, would destroy millions of jobs by completely eliminating the fossil-fuel industry — almost overnight — and forcing people to purchase much more expensive renewable energy. It would also impose other socialist schemes, including basic income programs, a federal jobs guarantee, single-payer health care, a slew of “social justice” programs, and a whole new system of publicly-owned banks.

This radical socialist proposal might be a popular idea among elites in parts of the Northeast and on the West Coast, but it isn’t the sort of thing middle-of-the-road Democrats have historically backed in the heart of the Midwest......(SNIP)

More wishful thinking. Trump attacking Omar has helped her. There is no way in hell Minnesota will vote for Trump. Voters will reject Trump because of his extreme right wing views. Trump is in big trouble in Arizona, Texas and probably Georgia as well.

Hahaha! Has helped that idiot Omar? She of the 9% approval rating? Keep dreaming. Texas isn't going Democrat. More fantasy. We heard this same crap in 2016. Now Trump's approval among blacks has more than doubled and his approval among LEGAL Hispanics is up too. That spells trouble for the Dems.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

Horseshit. That is a Boomer Cuck talking point......

Fuck you punk, you little bitch. You're just an ignorant racist bitch who makes rightwingers look bad.

Old country Mexicans are a lot like old country Italians, big families, usually Catholic, very conservative abortion, and gay marriage is out of the question.

Shut your ignorant dickhole. You're not doing our side any favors.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

Good point. Naturalized American Hispanics generally tend to abhor abortion, since they are primarily Catholic in nature. They believe that a marriage is between one man and one woman, and think that homosexuality is wrong. They also dislike the fact that illegal border-crossers are stealing their jobs, their tax money, and their resources.
I lived in Texas for a little over 25 years, so I know this to be true.

Thank you. Good post.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Culturally they are actually quite conservative. We could be winning them to our side. Abortion? Gay Marriage? They don't go for that shit.

Horseshit. That is a Boomer Cuck talking point......

Fuck you punk, you little bitch. You're just an ignorant racist bitch who makes rightwingers look bad.

Old country Mexicans are a lot like old country Italians, big families, usually Catholic, very conservative abortion, and gay marriage is out of the question.

Shut your ignorant dickhole. You're not doing our side any favors.

No, I'm a REAL right winger...you boomer cucks with your 'talking points' are LARPing douche bags who sold this country down the fucking river.

"Mexicans are natural conservatives" is one such bullshit talking point which allows you boomer cucks to continue to rock your cognitive dissonance blinders in an excuse to disregard one of the ways you allowed this country to be fucked into a coma.

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[deanrd]

Is there any person here that believes that once Trump wins reelection he would keep giving farmers billions and billions of dollars in free money?

Not only will he stop giving them free money, but his lack of any meaningful trade policies will have ruined their farms forever. Many of them will be out of business.

Many are going out of business right now.

And Minnesota really depends on its farms.

Thanks Trump! I’m sure you’ll get lots of votes.

 

[busybee01]

The energy sector has always run boom or bust. The market, with cheap natural gas and decades of automation are what is killing coal. Trump offered up a false front and voters bought it.

Obama tried to destroy it with regulation and Trump brought it back. THAT is the fact.

That is not a fact. Oil and gas production went up under Obama due to fracking. The fact is that no one wants a dirty coal plant in their backyard. Coal has continued to decline in the US and will continue. Trump cannot do anything about it.