In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

[Avatar4321]

Talk about fake news. I can list half a dozen scandals off the top of my head. Many because Hillary Clinton was in the administration.

Benghazi
Benghazi cover up
Fast and furious
Irs targeting political enemies
Administration officials cheating on taxes
Email server
Solyndra

And that's just the tip of the iceberg

 

[Avatar4321]

Hillary Clinton lost the election because of scandals she was part of in the Obama administration. Yet there were no scandals...

And you wonder how trump won

 

[kaz]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Good grief...Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS, Solyndra, the VA....

 

[Coyote]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

And not for lack of the right trying to manufacture Obama scandals...it's been a remarkably scandal-free administration.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

You aren't really doing much to dispell the drunken indian stereo type with your posts.

 

[rdean]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Clinton's wasn't really a scandal. For the GOP to invade the privacy of what happens between consenting adults is a shocking invasion of personal liberty. Trumps had three marriages with many, many accusations of adultery, sexual assault and pu$$y grabbing.

 

[Coyote]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Clinton's wasn't really a scandal. For the GOP to invade the privacy of what happens between consenting adults is a shocking invasion of personal liberty. Trumps had three marriages with many, many accusations of adultery, sexual assault and pu$$y grabbing.

He didn't look into the eyes of the American people and lie about it, nor was he found in contempt for lying about it while under oath. Big difference.

 

[Coyote]

I think there are a lot of scandals that are driven by partisan hyped investigations rather than actually being a scandal - Clinton's problem keeping his pants on is one of those and, if it should become a future scandal - Trump's keeping his pants on. That is not the sort of stuff we should be wasting taxpayer money investigating.

 

[kaz]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

So your standard for "scandal" is convincing leftists you need to care about them. For Republicans an accusation by a leftist accomplishes that, for Democrats dead bodies doesn't do it. You realize I already knew that was your standard, you didn't need to tell me that.

The only one in that list that is minor is the Statue of Liberty one. You don't even consider his lies over Obamacare, Guantanamo, the Middle East to be a scandal. You're a Democrat bobble head

 

[kaz]

I think there are a lot of scandals that are driven by partisan hyped investigations rather than actually being a scandal - Clinton's problem keeping his pants on is one of those and, if it should become a future scandal - Trump's keeping his pants on. That is not the sort of stuff we should be wasting taxpayer money investigating.

And of course the endless crap from the left over your butt hurt that Trump won isn't "partisan hype" ...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

His SOS was under investigation by the FBI, and Obama was emailing her using that server. He claimed he didn't know a thing about it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So your standard for "scandal" is convincing leftists you need to care about them. For Republicans an accusation by a leftist accomplishes that, for Democrats dead bodies doesn't do it. You realize I already knew that was your standard, you didn't need to tell me that.

The only one in that list that is minor is the Statue of Liberty one. You don't even consider his lies over Obamacare, Guantanamo, the Middle East to be a scandal. You're a Democrat bobble head

And let's not forget he went against court orders when they told him he had to reopen the Gulf and didn't.

 

[Coyote]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

So your standard for "scandal" is convincing leftists you need to care about them. For Republicans an accusation by a leftist accomplishes that, for Democrats dead bodies doesn't do it. You realize I already knew that was your standard, you didn't need to tell me that.

The only one in that list that is minor is the Statue of Liberty one. You don't even consider his lies over Obamacare, Guantanamo, the Middle East to be a scandal. You're a Democrat bobble head

Really?

Scandal:
an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.
"a bribery scandal involving one of his key supporters"
synonyms: (outrageous) wrongdoing, impropriety, misconduct, immoral behavior, unethical behavior, discreditable behavior, outrageous behavior;

What makes these scandals at all?
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (what's funny is - you guys bitched about getting us out then you bitch about going back in )
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

If all those constitute scandals - then hell, Bush is way over the legal limit and Trump is already edging to the top.

 

[Coyote]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

His SOS was under investigation by the FBI, and Obama was emailing her using that server. He claimed he didn't know a thing about it.

Ok...how would he? Just for example - I have two work email address', both legit (one just happened to be older format) that merge into one email stream. We have multiple servers - departmental, and university wide. I have no idea what server it goes through or anything. It's just email. Now, before anyone says it first - yes, I'm a techtard. But I don't think that is so different from a number of people in my generation.

 

[kaz]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

So your standard for "scandal" is convincing leftists you need to care about them. For Republicans an accusation by a leftist accomplishes that, for Democrats dead bodies doesn't do it. You realize I already knew that was your standard, you didn't need to tell me that.

The only one in that list that is minor is the Statue of Liberty one. You don't even consider his lies over Obamacare, Guantanamo, the Middle East to be a scandal. You're a Democrat bobble head

Really?

Scandal:
an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.
"a bribery scandal involving one of his key supporters"
synonyms: (outrageous) wrongdoing, impropriety, misconduct, immoral behavior, unethical behavior, discreditable behavior, outrageous behavior;

What makes these scandals at all?
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (what's funny is - you guys bitched about getting us out then you bitch about going back in )
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

If all those constitute scandals - then hell, Bush is way over the legal limit and Trump is already edging to the top.

I'm not a W supporter, I didn't vote for him and I repeatedly say that, moron. I also have consistently criticized our presence in the middle east and oppose all our wars over there. How many times do you have to hear something before it sinks in? Stop being an idiot.

And yes, all of those were morally reprehensible. For example, W, Pelosi and Reid and the rest of both parties hand in hand got us in the middle east wars. Democrat lies that it was all W and not you are morally despicable. Own up to your actions. And Obama running against that then expanding our presence and expanding the wars to new locations is morally despicable. All of those were morally reprehensible acts.

Liberals are so dumb. You think the world is Republicans and Democrats so to not be a Democrat is to be a Republican. Then we all agree with Republicans, because you know, we're Republicans ... because we aren't Democrats. The mental acuity of all you simpletons combined barely jerks the needle

 

[rdean]

Talk about fake news. I can list half a dozen scandals off the top of my head. Many because Hillary Clinton was in the administration.

Benghazi
Benghazi cover up
Fast and furious
Irs targeting political enemies
Administration officials cheating on taxes
Email server
Solyndra

And that's just the tip of the iceberg

Of course, targeting political enemies is hilarious considering how Republicans targeted the Clintons for the last 30 years. And how they went after Obama's family. Who did Obama go after? He was even nice to Bush.
Then the whole IRS thing started under Bush and the head of the IRS couldn't be replaced because Republicans wouldn't let that happen by not confirming Obama's nominee. At least not until the IRS scandal with Bush's holdover. Then they couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
Obama cheated on taxes? That's funny.
Email server when Powell used AOL and both Powell and Condi never turned over a single God damn fucking email even after they were ordered to. Double standard.
Solyndra started under Bush.

But the most hilarious of all is Fast and Furious. It's so retarded ridiculous that it's like the ultimate classic GOP nonsense. Obama and Holder supposedly somehow got assault weapons and GAVE them to Mexican Drug Lords hoping they would use those weapons to shoot Americans. Then, later on, they would find the dead bodies, somehow, with evidence showing they were killed by the weapons Obama and Holder had provided along with some kind of evidence it was done by the Mexican Drug Lords and all because Obama wanted to end gun rights in this country.

Have you ever heard any more ridiculous and moronic plan? Who could be so stupid they would believe this? Especially after Obama expanded gun rights:

Major Garrett: Obama has expanded, not reduced gun rights

The worst part for Republicans is they have no idea how the world sees their ridiculous behavior.

 

[kaz]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

His SOS was under investigation by the FBI, and Obama was emailing her using that server. He claimed he didn't know a thing about it.

Ok...how would he? Just for example - I have two work email address', both legit (one just happened to be older format) that merge into one email stream. We have multiple servers - departmental, and university wide. I have no idea what server it goes through or anything. It's just email. Now, before anyone says it first - yes, I'm a techtard. But I don't think that is so different from a number of people in my generation.

You don't seem to be much of a techard. So if someone addressed an e-mail to you with the new format, then said they didn't know about your new format, you would say ... what ???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is a major departure from the presidencies of George W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Nixon.

WASHINGTON ― Scandal has consumed the final four years of every two-term president in modern history ― George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Barack Obama’s administration is the exception.

While there were some minor scandals and resignations during Obama’s eight years in office, wrongdoing never fully occupied his presidency. None of it even directly touched the White House. There were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments. There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.

This was a significant departure from the previous four two-term presidents. George W. Bush’s second term featured convictions related to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, in which more than a dozen lobbyists and government officials went to jail for corruption. There were also convictions related to the politically motivated purge of U.S. attorneys and the retaliatory leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity.

As everyone who was sentient in the 1990s recalls, Clinton was impeached over his affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. Reagan’s second term was plagued by corruption investigations ranging from Iran-Contra to Wedtech, a contracting scandal that led to the resignation of Attorney General Ed Meese. And, of course, there were Nixon’s final two years in office, which featured the convictions of 48 government officials and the first presidential resignation over corruption.

All of these past scandals directly involved White House staff.

Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and Lewis Libby, a senior adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, both were implicated in leaking Plame’s name to the press in retaliation for an op-ed that her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, wrote that showed that the president had lied about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons in his 2003 State of the Union address. While Rove was not prosecuted, Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice. Bush later commuted the sentence.

The Clinton administration’s major scandal was related to the president’s own actions.

The Iran-Contra scandal consumed the entire national security arm of the Reagan administration. At least eight members of the administration were indicted, and there were multiple convictions, although some were later overturned due to jury tampering, and President George H.W. Bush pardoned others.

The 1972 Watergate scandal and ensuing revelations of campaign finance violations, cover-ups and retaliations destroyed the Nixon administration.

It’s not an accident that Obama’s presidency was largely scandal-free. His former ethics adviser, Norm Eisen, began to craft an ethics plan for the administration months before the 2008 election. When Obama won, Eisen began implementing these plans with other White House aides ― including Chris Lu, who served as assistant to the president and later as deputy secretary of labor, and the late Cassandra Butts. Obama himself got engaged in the planning, reportedly making line-edits to the guidelines, according to Eisen.

The plan required every Obama administration official and employee to sign anethics pledge that included bans on accepting certain gifts and revolving-door rules that barred former staffers from lobbying the administration until Obama’s term ended. Officials leaving for other lines of work were banned from contacting their former agency for two years.

The administration also adopted a loose ban on registered lobbyists entering the administration. Not all of these commitments stuck. Obama granted waivers that allowed some lobbyists to be appointed to government positions. And lawyers who represented banks or other industries, but were not registered as official lobbyists, moved freely from the private sector to the public sector and back again.

By no means did the Obama administration thwart the power of special interests and big money in Washington. But the administration did avoid major scandals, which Eisen attributed to the “tone at the top.”

“Everyone knows the president himself is a man of great integrity,” Eisen said. “He cares about this, he talks about it.”

More: In 2 Terms, Obama Had Fewer Scandals Than Trump Has Had In The Last 2 Weeks

And Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

What are you, on drugs? Off the top of my head

Benghazi
IRS targeting conservative groups
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty
Fast and Furious
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building
Obama attacks Libya
Obama tries to attack Syria
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Of those - Benghazi was a manufactured scandal - there was no scandal. It was a tragedy that the Republicans exploited for political hay (that's the only scandal in it).


IRS targeting conservative groups:

Bottom line

Will likened the events at the IRS to Watergate. That’s his right as a Washington pundit, but we found little evidence (in fact, no one has) linking the actions of the IRS to the Obama White House in the way the Watergate break-in and cover up was orchestrated by Nixon’s White House.


That’s part of Will’s point -- a more thorough investigation is merited. But several investigations are under way.


Democrats say the Republicans are on an endless witch hunt that conveniently falls during a midterm election cycle, and Republicans say Democrats are protecting Obama and to ice out conservative groups from the elections process.


The evidence available so far indicates IRS employees behaved poorly but did so in a silo; it was not reflective of corruption from the White House or external forces.​

Fast and Furious - this was another "scandal" that ended up blowing up in the Republican's face. It ended up not being a major scandal.

None of these are scandals:
Trading terrorists for the deserter Bagdahl (we typically do whatever we can to get back military members captured in service, the fact that he was a deserter changed none of this - he should face justice on our side, not theirs).
If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan (being wrong is not a scandal )
Airforce one photo op over the Statue of Liberty (this is a scandal?)
Obama after running for getting out of Iraq continues Bush's timeline (this is a scandal?)
Iraq is falling and he gets us back in (this is a scandal?)
Obama extends the Afghanistan nation building (this is a scandal?)
Obama attacks Libya (this is a scandal?)
Obama tries to attack Syria (this is a scandal?)
Obama is blasted by Egypt for interfering in their elections (this is a scandal?)
Obama is bitch slapped by Putin in the Ukraine (this is a scandal?)
Obama doesn't shut down Guantanamo (this is a scandal?)
But he does let a bunch of real bad guys go who rejoin the terrorists
Obama repeatedly attacks white cops (and a black one) without waiting for evidence
Obama claims to not know about Hillary's e-mail while he had e-mailed her a bunch of times

Essentially, you have two minorscandals, neither of which had the direct involvement of the White House: Fast and Furious, and the IRS.

His SOS was under investigation by the FBI, and Obama was emailing her using that server. He claimed he didn't know a thing about it.

Ok...how would he? Just for example - I have two work email address', both legit (one just happened to be older format) that merge into one email stream. We have multiple servers - departmental, and university wide. I have no idea what server it goes through or anything. It's just email. Now, before anyone says it first - yes, I'm a techtard. But I don't think that is so different from a number of people in my generation.

Obama used a pseudonym in emails with Clinton, FBI documents reveal

By JOSH GERSTEIN and NOLAN D. MCCASKILL
09/23/16 06:27 PM EDT
Updated 09/24/16 03:35 PM EDT


Obama used a pseudonym in emails with Clinton, FBI documents reveal