IMMIGRATION NIGHTMARE WATCH: 11 Worst Animalistic Crimes Committed Against Americans By MS-13...

So which of these stories posted is untrue?

Sorry dude, I'm not gonna go through them one by one. Yes, gang members are ruthless mothafukers ...

But Trump is exaggerating the MS-13 menace to keep you fearful and in line.

Deporting them "by the thousands"? LoL - there might be a few thousand in the entire country.

Trump exaggerates number of MS-13 gang members deported
Tell that to the parents of people that have to endure their attacks. I thought you guys had compassion and empathy....not when it comes to groups you need for your political purpose...

you guys should just say, these guys are animals and worse. get them out.........any other answer is wrong......WRONG
 
I’m more concerned about the rapes, murders and all out mahem being committed by white supremacy groups, and white right wing terrorists.

At this point, more American high school students have been killed by white guys with guns this year than have been killed in all of the military operations currently under way.

More women have been raped by white men than by MS13, and you blame the women when white guys rape them. It’s only when non-white rape white women you call them “animals”. When white guts do it the women are “sluts” who were “asking for it”.

Focusing on the handful of crimes committed by this gang is just a deflection being used to pit people against immigrants.


Its a shame the right is saying ms13 came from south of the border when, IN FACT, they originated in the US.

And you're right that white men are much more dangerous and much more often perpetrators of crimes against women.

OTOH, I don't think we can do only one thing at a time.
You both really have no clue as to the debate......Commies did way worse to way more people....that's not the issue here. Quit deflecting because we are talking about MS 13....keep defending them by changing the subject.......
 
Why not just list all 11 in the original post? They all come from the same link. Anyway, nobody wants MS13, nobody has defended MS13 and nobody really believes they are the fantastical threat the right makes them out to be.

Your Open Borders policy led to them easily getting into my country. You Democrats invited them here. But now it's time for them to go. Hopefully Trump will get that done.

Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?
 
It was estimated at a cost of about $250/day for each of these kids. Many spent a YEAR OR MORE in abandoned army barracks or unused gyms. PLENTY of time to get recruited by elements that already led lives DOMINATED by the gang violence that they were "escaping" and were mixed in these insanely LARGE groups of parent-less refugees... If not recruited into the gangs, they were subject to abuse from pimps and slave traders.
 
No one is defending MS 13 . People were pissed that trumps brings them up during talks on immigration . Implying that immigrants are gang members .
He didn't you dumbfuck......a cop did......you really don't pay attention.

He was asked about it, he gave his answer. And I support him 100% on eradicating MS-13 from my country. They shouldn't have been allowed to enter in the first place. Time to hunt them down and remove them.

They aren’t allowed to enter the US !

You know ms 13 is a gang . Which includes Americans .
 
No one is defending MS 13 . People were pissed that trumps brings them up during talks on immigration . Implying that immigrants are gang members .
He didn't you dumbfuck......a cop did......you really don't pay attention.

He was asked about it, he gave his answer. And I support him 100% on eradicating MS-13 from my country. They shouldn't have been allowed to enter in the first place. Time to hunt them down and remove them.

They aren’t allowed to enter the US !

You know ms 13 is a gang . Which includes Americans .
What does allowed mean...none of them are just allowed to come here, yet they do. you realized many people don't follow the law....which is why we laugh at gun laws.
 
No one is defending MS 13 . People were pissed that trumps brings them up during talks on immigration . Implying that immigrants are gang members .
He didn't you dumbfuck......a cop did......you really don't pay attention.

He was asked about it, he gave his answer. And I support him 100% on eradicating MS-13 from my country. They shouldn't have been allowed to enter in the first place. Time to hunt them down and remove them.

They aren’t allowed to enter the US !

You know ms 13 is a gang . Which includes Americans .

Yet they are entering the country. As I said, the ones already here PREY on new young illegal aliens. Or actually RUN them across the border for money..
 
Tell that to the parents of people that have to endure their attacks. I thought you guys had compassion and empathy....not when it comes to groups you need for your political purpose...

you guys should just say, these guys are animals and worse. get them out.........any other answer is wrong......WRONG

Fine, convict and deport the idiots - But this will not, nor it will happen "by the thousands"

Now go light the scented candles in your Donald Shrine and repeat after me.

ALL immigrants from the south are MS-13 or looking for "free stuff"

Say it a thousand times - We'll watch and laugh :)
 
No one is defending MS 13 . People were pissed that trumps brings them up during talks on immigration . Implying that immigrants are gang members .
He didn't you dumbfuck......a cop did......you really don't pay attention.

He was asked about it, he gave his answer. And I support him 100% on eradicating MS-13 from my country. They shouldn't have been allowed to enter in the first place. Time to hunt them down and remove them.

They aren’t allowed to enter the US !

You know ms 13 is a gang . Which includes Americans .
What does allowed mean...none of them are just allowed to come here, yet they do. you realized many people don't follow the law....which is why we laugh at gun laws.

So we shouldn’t have immigration laws? That’s what the gun crowd says .
 
Tell that to the parents of people that have to endure their attacks. I thought you guys had compassion and empathy....not when it comes to groups you need for your political purpose...

you guys should just say, these guys are animals and worse. get them out.........any other answer is wrong......WRONG

Fine, convict and deport the idiots - But this will not, nor it will happen "by the thousands"

Now go light the scented candles in your Donald Shrine and repeat after me.

ALL immigrants from the south are MS-13 or looking for "free stuff"

Say it a thousand times - We'll watch and laugh :)
Again you cant just say it without some partisanship......man you really have no soul.
 
No one is defending MS 13 . People were pissed that trumps brings them up during talks on immigration . Implying that immigrants are gang members .
He didn't you dumbfuck......a cop did......you really don't pay attention.

He was asked about it, he gave his answer. And I support him 100% on eradicating MS-13 from my country. They shouldn't have been allowed to enter in the first place. Time to hunt them down and remove them.

They aren’t allowed to enter the US !

You know ms 13 is a gang . Which includes Americans .
What does allowed mean...none of them are just allowed to come here, yet they do. you realized many people don't follow the law....which is why we laugh at gun laws.

So we shouldn’t have immigration laws? That’s what the gun crowd says .
No, because immigration laws help the country and the people in it. Gun laws do not help the people.

you guys are really bad at comparisons.....
 
Most of MS13 are illegals? You sure about that?

Yes, most. They were allowed in our country by way of Open Borders policies. MS-13 has its origins in Central America. When Governments there cracked down on them, they fled to the US. And it's thrived ever since.

MS13 has it's oriigns in the United States by South American immigrants back in the 80s as they were fleeing wars that we helped start.

Your claim was that most MS13 members are 'illegals', I'm waiting your you to prove that.

It's thrived much more here than in Central America. What does that say about the current state of things? They shouldn't have ever been allowed to enter our country. So many innocent lives would have been spared if we merely enforced our Immigration Laws. It's time for change. Time to end the Open Borders policy.

You claimed MS13 are mostly 'illegas', are you going to prove that or admit you don't know what you're talking about?

Saving lives would have been better if perhaps many didn't support a president who sold arms with Iran to fund some of these right wing groups to the south that created a refugee problem in the first place. That being said the amount of violence in the US because of MS 13 is overstated.

Yes, they are mostly Illegals. The gang's origins are in Central America. They shouldn't have ever been allowed to enter our country. It's your Open Borders policy that invited them here. But i don't support your Open Borders policy. I didn't invite them here. It's time for them to be confronted. And i think Trump's just the guy for the job. I wish him all the best.

Their origins was from the 1980s in the United States, the gang literally started in the USA.
 
Why not just list all 11 in the original post? They all come from the same link. Anyway, nobody wants MS13, nobody has defended MS13 and nobody really believes they are the fantastical threat the right makes them out to be.

Your Open Borders policy led to them easily getting into my country. You Democrats invited them here. But now it's time for them to go. Hopefully Trump will get that done.

Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

For starters, Obama never encouraged anyone to sneak through the border, you're lying. Secondly DACA doesn't protect criminals so that's another lie. Thirdly, you've provided zero evidence DACA has had any substantial influence on MS13 gang violence. You're wetting your bed over another right wing boogey man.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..[/qouote]

Whatever you say, boss.

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?

Did the trains sneak across the border? I'm not sure I understand your claim.
 
This thread is another microcosm of our nation. Now it is more about who did the crime than what the crime was.

Everything is designed to divide and control.

Governments need an enemy for the people to fear, fear is the best controlling force in nature. We have lost most of our enemies outside the country so now they will make us fear those walking down the streets next to you, or those speaking a different language in the convenience store.
 
Your Open Borders policy led to them easily getting into my country. You Democrats invited them here. But now it's time for them to go. Hopefully Trump will get that done.

Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

For starters, Obama never encouraged anyone to sneak through the border, you're lying. Secondly DACA doesn't protect criminals so that's another lie. Thirdly, you've provided zero evidence DACA has had any substantial influence on MS13 gang violence. You're wetting your bed over another right wing boogey man.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..[/qouote]

Whatever you say, boss.

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?

Did the trains sneak across the border? I'm not sure I understand your claim.

Did I SAY that DACA protected criminals? No. I did not. I said that Admin statements suggesting that we'd naturalize "alien minors" PROMPTED the "surge" of 160,000 parent-less to ride the death trains North to the border often aided and smuggled thru Mexico by MS-13 and other gangs or cartels.

I can back ALL of it.. Did so last week.. You know you're woefully under-informed for a poster with so many strong opinions and personal accusations of lying..


Teen members of MS-13 gang 'trying to recruit young illegal immigrants' | Daily Mail Online

Young members of the feared MS-13 gang are believed to be trying to recruit the unaccompanied children they are crossing the U.S. border with.

At least 16 of the youngsters being held at an Arizona border processing center have been identified as part of the gang, which has its roots in Central America.

The gang members, who admitted to carrying out torture and murder before heading to the U.S., are believed to have also used the center's Red Cross phones to communicate with criminal networks.


A member of the MS-13 gang was arrested traveling with migrant caravan from Central America to U.S.


As Central American Gangs Increasingly Target Children, More Minors Are Fleeing to the U.S.

But this deterrence strategy has not prevented another wave of unaccompanied minors from making the journey north this year. Smugglers have become even more creative, and those who are fleeing have become more desperate. According to data released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the numbers of unaccompanied minors are catching up with the figures seen during the 2014 surge.

Gangs are now targeting younger boys and girls, and pushing them to flee, Amoachi said: “Before, it was 12 or 13, but now, for the first time, I’ve been hearing multiple stories about children as young as 6 or 7 being forced to join, or killed for not wanting to join the gangs. We’ve had kids in here as young as 4 years old reporting sexual violence.”

The gangs in Central America, the largest of which are MS-13 and 18th Street Gang, are in a constant battle for territorial control. The gangs fear that boys might join their rivals, so they recruit them forcefully while the boys are still very young. With a large number of gang members dying in gang-related violence, the need to recruit members is very strong.
 
Yes, they are animals. Once again, Trump is Spot On. Hussein Obama and Democrats may have invited them here, but i didn't. It's time for them to go. I support Trump 100% in that effort.


When President Trump recently referred to MS-13 gang members as “animals,” the mainstream media, left-wing pundits, and Democrats were outraged by the statement.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi slammed Trump’s attack on MS-13 gang members, saying, “Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”

Multiple media pundits, including the Washington Post‘s Jennifer Rubin,defended MS-13 gang members against Trump’s “animals” remark, calling the statement “disgusting” and attacking Evangelical Trump supporters. Similarly, the Associated Press was forced to apologize for falsely claiming that Trump was referring to illegal aliens when he made the “animals” remark.

Meanwhile, Trump and White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended the comment.

“When the MS-13 comes in, when the other gang members come into our country, I refer to them as animals and guess what, I always will,” Trump said at the White House on Thursday.


1. MS-13 Pimp Ordered Baseball Bat Beating of Underage ‘Prostitute’


Prosecutors in Montgomery County, Maryland, charged a known MS-13 leader for ordering the beating of a 15-year-old girl with a baseball bat who had been forced into prostitution. Two other Salvadoran nationals are also named in the case...

More:
11 Animalistic Crimes - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com


They're an American gang.

They're a Central American Gang. They were allowed into our country. They've thrived ever since.
 
Why not just list all 11 in the original post? They all come from the same link. Anyway, nobody wants MS13, nobody has defended MS13 and nobody really believes they are the fantastical threat the right makes them out to be.

Your Open Borders policy led to them easily getting into my country. You Democrats invited them here. But now it's time for them to go. Hopefully Trump will get that done.

Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?

Yes, Hussein invited more Illegals to flow across our Border. Democrats see millions of future loyal Democrat voters in Illegals. The Party has thrown American Citizens overboard.
 
Your Open Borders policy led to them easily getting into my country. You Democrats invited them here. But now it's time for them to go. Hopefully Trump will get that done.

Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

For starters, Obama never encouraged anyone to sneak through the border, you're lying. Secondly DACA doesn't protect criminals so that's another lie. Thirdly, you've provided zero evidence DACA has had any substantial influence on MS13 gang violence. You're wetting your bed over another right wing boogey man.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..[/qouote]

Whatever you say, boss.

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?

Did the trains sneak across the border? I'm not sure I understand your claim.

Hussein always put foreign interests ahead of Citizen interests. He's a NWO Globalist. Him and his Party threw American Citizens overboard years ago. I don't get why so many Americans continue to vote Democrat. They're only voting against their own best interests.
 
Are you aware that MS13 started in the US decades ago? El Salvadoran immigrants fleeing right wing paramilitary guerrillas supported by Reagan came to the US back in the 80s. Clinton, Bush and Obama have all had a policy of deporting these gang members back to countries with weak governments only to create a transnational crime syndicate. In other words due to propping up corrupt right wing South American governments Reagan helped create these gangs, Ever since then we have been exporting these gang members back to South America where have have done further harm because some of those South American countries don't have the resources to deal with them, partly our fault since we've been known to prop up a corrupt government or two.

Republicans and Democrats alike have been apart of the problem, a problem most Americans never see.

Time to hunt down all MS-13 members. We owe that to its numerous Americans Citizen victims. And then secure the damn Border!

Border is pretty secure as it is, you want to add a couple thousand border patrol agents or upgrade the technology, I'm fine with that.

Also, sure let's hunt down MS13, as long as we are not violating anyone else's constitutional rights to be brown.

Recent wave of MS-13 influence came in when Obama Admin encouraged parent-less children to flee Cent. America for DACA status. The C.Amer. press widely advertised comments by Jeh Johnson and others as an invitation to children. Uncle Sam opened DOZENS of orphanages for about 160,000 of them crossing the border within 3 years. Got so bad, the Admin then CUT immigration of "unescorted minors" from that region.

For starters, Obama never encouraged anyone to sneak through the border, you're lying. Secondly DACA doesn't protect criminals so that's another lie. Thirdly, you've provided zero evidence DACA has had any substantial influence on MS13 gang violence. You're wetting your bed over another right wing boogey man.

It's well documented that these kids were ESCAPING MS-13 and drug cartel violence. But also well documented that MS-13 was involved in the smuggling and grooming of these minors as they rode the "death trains" up thru Mexico..[/qouote]

Whatever you say, boss.

Is THAT -- your "secure" border? You know Uncle Sam sucks wads at being a foster parent dontcha?

Did the trains sneak across the border? I'm not sure I understand your claim.

Hussein always put foreign interests ahead of Citizen interests. He's a NWO Globalist. Him and his Party threw American Citizens overboard years ago. I don't get why so many Americans continue to vote Democrat. They're only voting against their own best interests.

I don't get why right wingnuts bathe themselves in idiotic conspiracy theories without evidence and then are confused when nobody else jumps in the tub with them.
 

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