I'm still not clear on what Trump did wrong that led to all these investigations...

[jc456]

I'm still not clear on what H. Clinton did wrong that led to all these investigations either.

here:

illegal server
pay for play
33K of emails deleted while under subpoena
allowing access of classified documents to private citizens

all crimes. Net investigation. Glad I could help you out.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I'm still not clear on what H. Clinton did wrong that led to all these investigations either.

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that she had classified information on personal servers? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Well, if that is true, you certainly must have some proof that it is true. Please show your proof.

I believe that's what the Special Counsel is looking into currently. But I'm sure you would prefer these things to be rushed carelessly.

I don't think I'm rushing anything to ask what is the basis of conducting this investigation.

Usually, we need something to start an investigation.

For example, the police typically wait until they have proof that someone was murdered before conducting a murder investigation.

For example, the FBI typically wait until they have proof a bank was robbed before conducting a bank robbery investigation.

Here, it seems the part where someone commits a crime was skipped, and now the Special Counsel is investigating a crime that appears not to have happened.

I'm just wondering how this happened.

And please recall, this is my sixth attempt to get something from you people, and so far you have failed to provide ANY PROOF THAT A CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

And how is the proof of a bank robbery obtained? Or proof of any crime?

An investigation.

Being a lawyer, I'm sure you have already read news reports as well as the words of trump, his kids, his staff? If not, I would strongly suggest you do.

Or not. Your choice.

 

[nat4900]

..someone please enlighten me.

Donald Trump Is Under Investigation for Obstruction of Justice - The ...

 

[ClosedCaption]

...someone please enlighten me.

...again?

 

[Blackrook]

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that she had classified information on personal servers? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Well, if that is true, you certainly must have some proof that it is true. Please show your proof.

I believe that's what the Special Counsel is looking into currently. But I'm sure you would prefer these things to be rushed carelessly.

I don't think I'm rushing anything to ask what is the basis of conducting this investigation.

Usually, we need something to start an investigation.

For example, the police typically wait until they have proof that someone was murdered before conducting a murder investigation.

For example, the FBI typically wait until they have proof a bank was robbed before conducting a bank robbery investigation.

Here, it seems the part where someone commits a crime was skipped, and now the Special Counsel is investigating a crime that appears not to have happened.

I'm just wondering how this happened.

And please recall, this is my sixth attempt to get something from you people, and so far you have failed to provide ANY PROOF THAT A CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

And how is the proof of a bank robbery obtained? Or proof of any crime?

An investigation.

Being a lawyer, I'm sure you have already read news reports as well as the words of trump, his kids, his staff? If not, I would strongly suggest you do.

Or not. Your choice.

I'm reading everything you are reading, and all I see is accusations and innuendo. I have not seen a "smoking gun" piece of evidence proving that Trump colluded with the Russians to swing the election results. In fact, I haven't seen any evidence that the Russians did anything wrong. The Wikileaks guy said that Russia was not his source, his source was Seth Rich, a DNC insider who was shot to death in an apparent botched armed robbery. Funny thing, no one took Seth Rich's wallet or cell phone.

 

[Blackrook]

...someone please enlighten me.

...again?

Yes, I will keep asking for proof of Trump's guilt until Trump's guilt is proven. This is my SIXTH attempt. Why are you people so reluctant to prove your case? You should be all over this, providing me with proof. And yet, you don't. Makes me think you have no proof, and this entire story is bullshit.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I'm still not clear on what H. Clinton did wrong that led to all these investigations either.

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that she had classified information on personal servers? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Very weird is that trump has private and unsecure servers in all of his properties. Where's the outrage?

He also still uses an unsecure cell phone as well as a secure phone. he gives out his phone number to everybody he meets.

And, he spews secrets and info to strangers, world leaders, without ever giving a thought to it.

And the damn bastard invited Russians into a secret meeting in the Oval Office that we would not have learned about except that the Russians published photos.

Is any of that illegal?

Please make your case.

Repubs and RWNJs certainly thought the servers and cell phones were illegal when it was Secty Clinton.

Forgot to mention emails. Remember when trump said he loves emails because they don't go away? Now, his own kid has proven "collusion", which, according to a news story I saw, is not, per se, illegal. But, it he also admitted to wanting to meet with Russians in order to influence the election.

What about the admission and proof that money has been brought from Russia to the US and the money laundering.

What about the statements that trumps get their money from Russia?

There's more and you might want to talk to a lawyer.

Oh wait - you SAY you are a lawyer.

IOW, we should be making these demands of you.

Why aren't we?

Because there is no way you could have the answers.

Right?

 

[Blackrook]

I'm still not clear on what H. Clinton did wrong that led to all these investigations either.

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that she had classified information on personal servers? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Very weird is that trump has private and unsecure servers in all of his properties. Where's the outrage?

He also still uses an unsecure cell phone as well as a secure phone. he gives out his phone number to everybody he meets.

And, he spews secrets and info to strangers, world leaders, without ever giving a thought to it.

And the damn bastard invited Russians into a secret meeting in the Oval Office that we would not have learned about except that the Russians published photos.

Is any of that illegal?

Please make your case.

Repubs and RWNJs certainly thought the servers and cell phones were illegal when it was Secty Clinton.

Forgot to mention emails. Remember when trump said he loves emails because they don't go away? Now, his own kid has proven "collusion", which, according to a news story I saw, is not, per se, illegal. But, it he also admitted to wanting to meet with Russians in order to influence the election.

What about the admission and proof that money has been brought from Russia to the US and the money laundering.

What about the statements that trumps get their money from Russia?

There's more and you might want to talk to a lawyer.

Oh wait - you SAY you are a lawyer.

IOW, we should be making these demands of you.

Why aren't we?

Because there is no way you could have the answers.

Right?

Links?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Well, if that is true, you certainly must have some proof that it is true. Please show your proof.

I believe that's what the Special Counsel is looking into currently. But I'm sure you would prefer these things to be rushed carelessly.

I don't think I'm rushing anything to ask what is the basis of conducting this investigation.

Usually, we need something to start an investigation.

For example, the police typically wait until they have proof that someone was murdered before conducting a murder investigation.

For example, the FBI typically wait until they have proof a bank was robbed before conducting a bank robbery investigation.

Here, it seems the part where someone commits a crime was skipped, and now the Special Counsel is investigating a crime that appears not to have happened.

I'm just wondering how this happened.

And please recall, this is my sixth attempt to get something from you people, and so far you have failed to provide ANY PROOF THAT A CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

And how is the proof of a bank robbery obtained? Or proof of any crime?

An investigation.

Being a lawyer, I'm sure you have already read news reports as well as the words of trump, his kids, his staff? If not, I would strongly suggest you do.

Or not. Your choice.

I'm reading everything you are reading, and all I see is accusations and innuendo. I have not seen a "smoking gun" piece of evidence proving that Trump colluded with the Russians to swing the election results. In fact, I haven't seen any evidence that the Russians did anything wrong. The Wikileaks guy said that Russia was not his source, his source was Seth Rich, a DNC insider who was shot to death in an apparent botched armed robbery. Funny thing, no one took Seth Rich's wallet or cell phone.

"I have not seen a "smoking gun" piece of evidence proving that Trump colluded with the Russians to swing the election results."

The entire world saw the "smoking gun" that was released yesterday. How did you miss it?


"In fact, I haven't seen any evidence that the Russians did anything wrong".

Russians?
Since when is that in question?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that she had classified information on personal servers? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Wow, that's weird. Are you unaware that he and his staff had conversations with the Russians about hacking the Democrats and the Clinton campaign? Are you unaware of that, or are you just being deliberately untruthful?

Very weird is that trump has private and unsecure servers in all of his properties. Where's the outrage?

He also still uses an unsecure cell phone as well as a secure phone. he gives out his phone number to everybody he meets.

And, he spews secrets and info to strangers, world leaders, without ever giving a thought to it.

And the damn bastard invited Russians into a secret meeting in the Oval Office that we would not have learned about except that the Russians published photos.

Is any of that illegal?

Please make your case.

Repubs and RWNJs certainly thought the servers and cell phones were illegal when it was Secty Clinton.

Forgot to mention emails. Remember when trump said he loves emails because they don't go away? Now, his own kid has proven "collusion", which, according to a news story I saw, is not, per se, illegal. But, it he also admitted to wanting to meet with Russians in order to influence the election.

What about the admission and proof that money has been brought from Russia to the US and the money laundering.

What about the statements that trumps get their money from Russia?

There's more and you might want to talk to a lawyer.

Oh wait - you SAY you are a lawyer.

IOW, we should be making these demands of you.

Why aren't we?

Because there is no way you could have the answers.

Right?

Links?

WTF?

Are you just stupid?

Right now, there a several threads concerning Little DonDon's bombshell. how have you missed them? Here's just one -

This is how Donnie-baby royally screwed up...

Yesterday, I posted his actual email. No, I don't remember which thread its in but the NYT published it first and every single news outlet on the planet picked it and published it.

Lawyer, my ass.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Blackrook says she an attorney. I'm not but a couple of things that I've read about this case -

"Collusion" may not be a crime.
There is likely proof of "obstruction of justice" and trump admitted it.
There is plentiful proof that he is guilty of violation of the emoluments clause.
There is evidence and likely proof that they tried to influence the election.
Edited to add - gobs and gobs of "pay for play".

IMO, Mueller's choice of attorneys indicative of what he's looking for. I posted a thread about that in the CDZ.

This is more than enough info for lawyer Blackrook to use in doing searches on Google or, for that matter, her own law books. Hopefully, she will come back and educate us non-lawyers.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

..someone please enlighten me.

Donald Trump Is Under Investigation for Obstruction of Justice - The ...

Blackrook -- Did you read this?

Your legal opinion?

Thanks.

 

[idb]

So what crime did Trump commit?

I'm pretty sure that's what an investigation is supposed to determine.

 

[RealDave]

...someone please enlighten me.

If you don't know, there is no hope for your enlightenment.

 

[Siete]

the probable cause list that prompted the investigation is longer than rooks grocery list .

but RW clowns aren't sure ...

gotta really suck to be that f'n dumb.

 

[ClosedCaption]

...someone please enlighten me.

...again?

Yes, I will keep asking for proof of Trump's guilt until Trump's guilt is proven. This is my SIXTH attempt. Why are you people so reluctant to prove your case? You should be all over this, providing me with proof. And yet, you don't. Makes me think you have no proof, and this entire story is bullshit.

You want proof that you can't deny. The problem isn't that you haven't received proof, it's that you won't accept any proof as proof.

That's your problem...not mine. Toddles