Zone1 I'm not a communist anymore.

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

No, you can change your username. Lots of people do it. Go to Account Details and you'll see a "Change" button

I went over there and it looks like you can change your name one year after you join.

 

[Red Front]

Does one also become a socialist when they start collecting from the pension, IRA, and/or 401K they might also have invested in?
BTW, everyone has to take Medicare A, it's mandated by law (with few exceptions).

The former are private investments, the latter are government-run programs. Social Security and Medicare are needed to make sure our elderly aren't living in cardboard boxes in an alley behind a shopping center when they can't work or are denied healthcare when they need it the most. When we pay into our Social Security that payment isn't an investment it's a government mandate or qualifier for the entitlement in the future. People need to work and produce in order to qualify for Social Security, contributing to the economy, and America's GDP. When you pay for your SS the money isn't being deposited into your "Social Security Savings Account". It doesn't work that way.

 

[Red Front]

I checked with the mods and the user name "Nazi Germany" is available.

Thanks but I'm not a Nazi, perhaps you can take that username for yourself?

 

[miketx]

In your world, everyone who isn't a far-right conservative is a communist?

Yes.

Thanks but I'm not a Nazi, perhaps you can take that username for yourself?

Everyone one in Nazi Germany was not a Nazi, they had some communists. Go ahead, give it a whirl.

 

[Red Front]

Yes.

Everyone one in Nazi Germany was not a Nazi, they had some communists. Go ahead, give it a whirl.

Communists were in Nazi concentration camps. The actual socialists were banned from the German Bundestag. The only reason Hitler identified himself as a socialist and Christian, was to endear himself to the German working-class. Fascism is a mixture of capitalism and socialism, where the government is in bed with the private sector, guiding it without nationalizing the major centers of economic power, as a purely socialist government would do. The Nazis hated actual socialists and communists, banning and eventually murdering them.

 

[Votto]

I was a communist until I got my first paycheck and saw how much tax the government took.

That reminds me, I was a communist never.

 

[Bleipriester]

I joined the forum in July 2022 and I was a communist and Marxist, but I'm not that anymore. Can you please give me permission to change my nickname/username? I'm stuck with this name that doesn't reflect my views anymore.

Solution 1: Change your name in your account details.
Solution 2: Become a Communist.

 

[Votto]

Communists were in Nazi concentration camps. The actual socialists were banned from the German Bundestag. The only reason Hitler identified himself as a socialist and Christian, was to endear himself to the German working-class. Fascism is a mixture of capitalism and socialism, where the government is in bed with the private sector, guiding it without nationalizing the major centers of economic power, as a purely socialist government would do. The Nazis hated actual socialists and communists, banning and eventually murdering them.

You said this

Until automation eliminates most jobs, forcing us to adopt a non-profit system of production, I believe capitalism with a sufficient social safety net for working-class people is needed. So there is a place for capitalism, at the moment, before advanced automation technology replaces it.

And is sounds like how you described Nazis.

I bet you did nazi that coming.

 

[Bleipriester]

You said this

Until automation eliminates most jobs, forcing us to adopt a non-profit system of production, I believe capitalism with a sufficient social safety net for working-class people is needed. So there is a place for capitalism, at the moment, before advanced automation technology replaces it.

And is sounds like how you described Nazis.

I bet you did nazi that coming.

If we ask the left and the right here and add the results, 100 % of the people here are Nazis.

 

[Red Front]

You said this

Until automation eliminates most jobs, forcing us to adopt a non-profit system of production, I believe capitalism with a sufficient social safety net for working-class people is needed. So there is a place for capitalism, at the moment, before advanced automation technology replaces it.

And is sounds like how you described Nazis.

I bet you did nazi that coming.

When advanced technology replaces wage labor, society is forced, by necessity, to adopt a non-profit system of production. Even the big-money capitalists, the billionaires know this:

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Even Milton Friedman, one of the iconic champion defenders of capitalism, believed the government had to give the poor a UBI to prevent social unrest and the collapse of capitalism. Capitalism at a national scale, doesn't work without government intevention and bailouts:

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Advanced automation = the socialization and democratization of production. All production becomes non-profit when automation technology replaces most jobs. Actually, it doesn't even have to be "most", just 30%-40% unemployment will force society to place all of the facilities and machinery/automation systems/autonomous machines and robots in public hands. The public ownership of the "means of production". All it takes is about 30% unemployment for the pitchforks to come out.

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[Captain Caveman]

I joined the forum in July 2022 and I was a communist and Marxist, but I'm not that anymore. Can you please give me permission to change my nickname/username? I'm stuck with this name that doesn't reflect my views anymore.

So have you dropped down one notch to Socialist, or are you now between the two, Democrat?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Just because you see yourself that way doesn't imply others are like you. Stop projecting yourself on me, little girl.

Ah - the old "I know what you are but what am I?" Response.

A classic!

 

[Red Front]

Ah - the old "I know what you are but what am I?" Response.

A classic!

 

[Stryder50]

Laissez-faire capitalism, right-wing conservatism, is just as infantile if not more so.

You just established/proved here that what you said in your OP was either disinformation, or a lie.
Laissez-faire capitalism, a.k.a. Free Market economics is the exact opposite of communism/socialism. It is based upon incentive versus compulsion~coercion~elitism privileged which is the foundation of most all other economic-government systems. NOTE that most government systems exist to regulate economic systems; creation and distribution of wealth.

Laissez-faire capitalism is based upon incentive and reward in proportion to effort, investment, and other factor chosen by the participants. Those whom want Liberty and Prosperity to produce via their own efforts and keep most of it for themselves usually want a laissez-faire capitalism or free enterprise system of capitalism, versus something like state-sanctioned(and controlled) pseudo capitalism such as we see in CCP China. Usually it is those whom are lazy, inefficient, unproductive, or incompetent and seek to receive more than they are worth or have earned.

Right-wing conservatism, in USA political speak, is the ideological and governmental position taken by those whom want to have free market, incentive and proportional reward economics; such as laissez-faire capitalism. Their position is don't change what isn't broke, especially just for the sake of change. They understand and are willing to accept that if you do more you should get more, do less and get less. Either way and man-up to that reality. If you just want to work a job 40 hours a week understand it may not gain you as much wealth as say starting a business, putting in 60-80 hours a week and making more money, creating more wealth. Key is to be mature enough to accept the difference in what one puts in and what they can reasonably expect to get out of such.

As I said, this post of yours I quote~respond to shows that your OP=Opening Post is not truthful or accurate. You remain a socialist/communist at heart, and in your mind, ethics, morals, etc.

Here's a website you may want to visit to get a more precise gauge where you are at regards economics and government types. When you take the quiz you need to be honest with your self. It isn't a contest to compare/compete with others; it is for information and insight of yourself. While they offer an interactive on-line way to take the test, you could key your answers on paper if you want to do the following for a more accurate result. While the test offers answers and points at: A(Agree)-20; M(Maybe)-10; D(Disagree)-0 which you sum and mark on the grid; you could choose something in-between and get more adjusted result. Example, if you are mixed between Agree and Maybe, record 15 points on your paper (12 or 17, etc.)

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[MarathonMike]

In your world, everyone who isn't a far-right conservative is a communist?

That's too dumb to even merit a response. You opened your bait thread claiming you were no longer a Communist. So what are you now? This ought to be good.

 

[miketx]

That's too dumb to even merit a response. You opened your bait thread claiming you were no longer a Communist. So what are you now? This ought to be good.

Perhaps he is a fascist manifesto writer now.

 

[yidnar]

Until automation eliminates most jobs, forcing us to adopt a non-profit system of production, I believe capitalism with a sufficient social safety net for working-class people is needed. So there is a place for capitalism, at the moment, before advanced automation technology replaces it.

so you're a commie in waiting eh ?

 

[Red Front]

Solution 1: Change your name in your account details.
Solution 2: Become a Communist.

Hehehe thanks.

 

[miketx]

Hehehe thanks.

You already are a commie, by your own admission. Changing your name will do nothing.

 

[fncceo]

I can't change it till July.

Sounds like a Communist Plot.