Illegal immigrant Venezuelan arrested 6 times for 14 crimes in US in 2 months.......

Actually, it was you who created a strawman by making claims and arguing points you couldn't defend.

Let's review, shall we? First. you were befuddled about US law and border controls. I gave you links to the relevant codes. Then it was you who argued about a judge's opinion on the Biden catch and release policy when in fact, the judge issued a ruling.

Which has no impact on how the immigrants got here in the first place.

What happens to them once they are is different point.

But if you really cared you would know that all modern presidents have done catch and release.

"The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has led the Trump administration to dramatically expand a practice President Donald Trump has long mocked as “catch and release.”

"With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration is busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities like Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle."


This should establish that not only is your catch and release arguement not relevant to actual immigration numbers, we also established that it has been done in the past so focusing only on Biden exposes your political bias.

Actually, catch and release has everything to do with it because catch is in violation of current law. You don't want to acknowledge the fact that there are existing immigration laws codified that the Biden flunkies refuse to enforce.

Are under the impression that allowing catch and release changes something?

If they don't catch and release, they are caught and kept here anyhow.

It's a zero sum game in regards to the big picture of them being here in the first place.

I fully expect the nonsensical "I Blame Trump" slogan but you don't seem to understand that Biden's failure to enforce existing law and the open border disaster is fully the doing of Sloppy Joe.

We don't have open borders. That is more right wing propaganda.

I don't think you're getting it at all because you refuse to acknowledge that Biden's decision to flood the country with illegals is calculated and intentional.
Speculation.
 
Which has no impact on how the immigrants got here in the first place.

What happens to them once they are is different point.

But if you really cared you would know that all modern presidents have done catch and release.

"The surge of migrant families arriving at the southern border has led the Trump administration to dramatically expand a practice President Donald Trump has long mocked as “catch and release.”

"With immigrant processing and holding centers overwhelmed, the administration is busing people hundreds of miles inland and releasing them at Greyhound stations and churches in cities like Albuquerque, San Antonio and Phoenix because towns close to the border already have more than they can handle."


This should establish that not only is your catch and release arguement not relevant to actual immigration numbers, we also established that it has been done in the past so focusing only on Biden exposes your political bias.



Are under the impression that allowing catch and release changes something?

If they don't catch and release, they are caught and kept here anyhow.

It's a zero sum game in regards to the big picture of them being here in the first place.



We don't have open borders. That is more right wing propaganda.


Speculation.
US Immigration law doesn't address how illegals came to the border. US law deals with immigration and the process for that.

You insist on retreating to the, "but... but... but...but what about..." waffle. The fact is, illegal immigration has seen record levels under Biden. Worse, Biden is aiding and abetting the illegals and the drug cartels/ human smugglers.

Now this is pretty darn funny. Your earlier comment was:
"There is no law or hard and fast policy called "catch and release," as the president has claimed."

Because that comment sank like a boat anchor, you now acknowledge there is catch and release. We can now establish that you're making claims you know are false.

The catch and release numbers as well as projections on the numbers of got-aways are provided on the DHS website. You can deny the numbers are there but you should make an effort to be honest with yourself.

We dont have open borders? Are you claiming that photographs and eyewitness testimony of people walking across the border are all one grand conspiracy theory?
 
US Immigration law doesn't address how illegals came to the border. US law deals with immigration and the process for that.

Amnesty laws and VISA laws do.

Not to mention employers who hire illegals which incentivizes immigration.

You insist on retreating to the, "but... but... but...but what about..." waffle. The fact is, illegal immigration has seen record levels under Biden. Worse, Biden is aiding and abetting the illegals and the drug cartels/ human smugglers.

They were at record levels under Trump and much higher then under Obama. He must have been abetting drug cartels and human smugglers too.

Biden is aiding them? Red state governors are giving illegals goody bags and free rides all over America.

It plays out like an advertisement. Smugglers probably talk about all the nice things red state governors do for immigrants as an incentive.


Now this is pretty darn funny. Your earlier comment was:
"There is no law or hard and fast policy called "catch and release," as the president has claimed."

Because that comment sank like a boat anchor, you now acknowledge there is catch and release. We can now establish that you're making claims you know are false.

Semantics does not change the fact that Trump did catch and release too...you just don't care because your arguement is all about political points; you don't honestly want to discern the real issues, just pass blame.

The catch and release numbers as well as projections on the numbers of got-aways are provided on the DHS website. You can deny the numbers are there but you should make an effort to be honest with yourself.

We dont have open borders? Are you claiming that photographs and eyewitness testimony of people walking across the border are all one grand conspiracy theory?
That doesn't mean the borders are open. We have gates, security and manpower...it just hasn't been enough for decades.
 
Amnesty laws and VISA laws do.

Not to mention employers who hire illegals which incentivizes immigration.



They were at record levels under Trump and much higher then under Obama. He must have been abetting drug cartels and human smugglers too.

Biden is aiding them? Red state governors are giving illegals goody bags and free rides all over America.

It plays out like an advertisement. Smugglers probably talk about all the nice things red state governors do for immigrants as an incentive.




Semantics does not change the fact that Trump did catch and release too...you just don't care because your arguement is all about political points; you don't honestly want to discern the real issues, just pass blame.


That doesn't mean the borders are open. We have gates, security and manpower...it just hasn't been enough for decades.
Amnesty and visa laws are also laws being ignored by the Biden flunkies.

Neither Obama nor Trump are the current president. The fact remains that illegal immigration numbers under Biden are at historic highs. " but... but... but... but what about" is just an attempt to excuse the Biden disaster.

Provide the exact citation where red state Governors are giving illegals "goody bags".

On the other hand, we know that the NY City Mayor is giving illegals expensive hotel accommodations, swimming pool use and legal services at taxpayer expense.

Provide specific examples of the nice things red state governors do for immigrants as an incentive.

Subsequent to that, explain to us the incentive for Biden giving the cartels and human smugglers an open border allowing them to make $Billions of dollars smuggling drugs, adults and children across the border.

"but... but... but... but what about Trump", does not change the fact that Trimp is not president. That seems to confuse you with every post. We're still left with the fact that Biden has facilitated record illegal immigration with his open borders policy ad has made drug and human smuggling cartels rich beyond belief.

Regarding Biden's facilitation of human smuggling, I suppose children are just a cost of doing the cartels a favor.



Wait. We have gates?

Hundreds of miles of the border are open, no walls fences or obstructions but we have gates?

 
Amnesty and visa laws are also laws being ignored by the Biden flunkies.

No they aren't. That's why we have so many legally crossing and claiming amnesty.

Neither Obama nor Trump are the current president. The fact remains that illegal immigration numbers under Biden are at historic highs. " but... but... but... but what about" is just an attempt to excuse the Biden disaster.

I know. You showed your true intent when confronted with the fact that Trump did catch and release too.

You went silent. Very telling.

Provide the exact citation where red state Governors are giving illegals "goody bags".

Of course goody bags was a figure of speech but they get gifts.

"The first Operation Lone Star bus of the day arrives at VVBHC around noon. Before boarding, each of the migrants is fitted with a white wristband imprinted with a barcode—a way for Texas to monitor people who use the program. As the travelers board the bus, an official scans their bands and checks their bags, and Burrow hands out sweatshirts for the air-conditioned ride. The bus’s 52 seats fill up quickly. A dog sniffs for drugs, and then it takes off. Even through the tinted windows, it’s easy to see hands waving goodbye.

"For the next two days and nights, 27-year-old Jhason from Venezuela sleeps upright. He and the other passengers are fed pink packages of food resembling military MRE’s. “HUMANITARIAN DAILY RATION,” the wrapping reads in all capital letters. Beneath the image of an American flag it says: “Food Gift From the People of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

After that frightening ordeal, a safe, free bus that would take her family closer Boston was a “blessing,” she says while her youngest child plays with a stuffed animal gifted to her by the church. And the food wasn’t too bad: “We ate hamburgers every day,” she says with a laugh. Tatiana Laborde, managing director of SAMU First Response, the international nonprofit leading the Washington operation, says migrants on the buses from Arizona often have more amenities than those arriving from Texas— better food than Jhason’s rations, for example, and paramedics onboard. “Texas is Texas,” Laborde says."

Obviously this is an inhumane political stunts for the Trumper masses to salivate over but I don't know why they waste the states tax money. What not just have employers waiting at the border. They can pick the ones they want to hire and pay for transport themselves.

On the other hand, we know that the NY City Mayor is giving illegals expensive hotel accommodations, swimming pool use and legal services at taxpayer expense.

Yawn, something that has been done for years. Trump did it. Biden did it. Obama did it.

You see the problems you just refuse to blame.anyine except who you have been told to blame..


Provide specific examples of the nice things red state governors do for immigrants as an incentive.

See above.

Subsequent to that, explain to us the incentive for Biden giving the cartels and human smugglers an open border allowing them to make $Billions of dollars smuggling drugs, adults and children across the border.

Their is no open border. They have always made billions. Are you new?

Why are trying to blame all the things that.have been going on for years on one man?

"but... but... but... but what about Trump", does not change the fact that Trimp is not president. That seems to confuse you with every post. We're still left with the fact that Biden has facilitated record illegal immigration with his open borders policy ad has made drug and human smuggling cartels rich beyond belief.

It's relevant because it shows a problem with entire system and it isn't just Biden's fault.

I bet you didn't complain one time about Trump when immigration spiked during his presidency...did you?

Regarding Biden's facilitation of human smuggling, I suppose children are just a cost of doing the cartels a favor.

Children were smuggled before.



Wait. We have gates?

Hundreds of miles of the border are open, no walls fences or obstructions but we have gates?

Yeah. Border gates. You had to have seen them in the movies. They are pretty much the same thing.
 
No they aren't. That's why we have so many legally crossing and claiming amnesty.



I know. You showed your true intent when confronted with the fact that Trump did catch and release too.

You went silent. Very telling.



Of course goody bags was a figure of speech but they get gifts.

"The first Operation Lone Star bus of the day arrives at VVBHC around noon. Before boarding, each of the migrants is fitted with a white wristband imprinted with a barcode—a way for Texas to monitor people who use the program. As the travelers board the bus, an official scans their bands and checks their bags, and Burrow hands out sweatshirts for the air-conditioned ride. The bus’s 52 seats fill up quickly. A dog sniffs for drugs, and then it takes off. Even through the tinted windows, it’s easy to see hands waving goodbye.

"For the next two days and nights, 27-year-old Jhason from Venezuela sleeps upright. He and the other passengers are fed pink packages of food resembling military MRE’s. “HUMANITARIAN DAILY RATION,” the wrapping reads in all capital letters. Beneath the image of an American flag it says: “Food Gift From the People of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

After that frightening ordeal, a safe, free bus that would take her family closer Boston was a “blessing,” she says while her youngest child plays with a stuffed animal gifted to her by the church. And the food wasn’t too bad: “We ate hamburgers every day,” she says with a laugh. Tatiana Laborde, managing director of SAMU First Response, the international nonprofit leading the Washington operation, says migrants on the buses from Arizona often have more amenities than those arriving from Texas— better food than Jhason’s rations, for example, and paramedics onboard. “Texas is Texas,” Laborde says."

Obviously this is an inhumane political stunts for the Trumper masses to salivate over but I don't know why they waste the states tax money. What not just have employers waiting at the border. They can pick the ones they want to hire and pay for transport themselves.



Yawn, something that has been done for years. Trump did it. Biden did it. Obama did it.

You see the problems you just refuse to blame.anyine except who you have been told to blame..




See above.



Their is no open border. They have always made billions. Are you new?

Why are trying to blame all the things that.have been going on for years on one man?



It's relevant because it shows a problem with entire system and it isn't just Biden's fault.

I bet you didn't complain one time about Trump when immigration spiked during his presidency...did you?



Children were smuggled before.


Yeah. Border gates. You had to have seen them in the movies. They are pretty much the same thing.
You show your true intent within every post with the pointless, “but… but… but what about Trump”. Do you still think Trump is president?

Amnesty claims are a farce. Illegals can be coached by the cartels to provide answers to expected questions. Illegals are overwhelmingly economic migrants.

And yes, “goody bags” was a fraud. But… but… but.. but what about Trump?


But… but… but…but what about Biden? It’s convenient to sidestep that Biden was flying illegals across the country under cover of darkness.

Why the fake outrage when the illegals are bussed to sanctuary cities?

The sanctuary cities seem to be the perfect place for illegals flooding across Biden’s ope borders plan. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that Biden auctioned off millions of dollars worth of border wall?

Pretty clearly, if your goal was an open border, you would get rid of the materials to build the wall.


But… but.. but… but what about Trump?



Forget drugs. Mexico’s cartels make more money trafficking PEOPLE across the border nowadays, using debt bondage to earn $13 billion from migrants’ earnings long after they enter the US, warns Texas ex-lawman


Biden’s open borders are making the cartels more money than they ever could have imagined. The cartels have a thriving child sex trafficking syndicate going.

You must be so proud.
 
You show your true intent within every post with the pointless, “but… but… but what about Trump”. Do you still think Trump is president?

In order to convey to you that Biden alone is not responsible for all your real or perceived issues with the border.

I hold both parties accountable and it seems like.you would too after seeing Trump and Republicans do the same thing you were lambasting Biden for.


Amnesty claims are a farce. Illegals can be coached by the cartels to provide answers to expected questions. Illegals are overwhelmingly economic migrants.

Agreed. That is why these laws need to be addressed by Congress.

And yes, “goody bags” was a fraud. But… but… but.. but what about Trump?

It wasn't a fraud. They get stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food. Then they get to their destination, get hired by employers who use lobbyists to keep Congress complient.

Like I said, it plays like a recruitment poster.

But… but… but…but what about Biden? It’s convenient to sidestep that Biden was flying illegals across the country under cover of darkness.

Do you prefer daytime only flights? I assume the night flights are cheaper.

Again...all modern presidents have done this. Why do you only hold Biden accountable?


Why the fake outrage when the illegals are bussed to sanctuary cities?

Just to clarify, they are probably not illegals, but amnesty seekers.

I do not agree with sanctuary cities but I do support a cities constitutional right to have them.

The sanctuary cities seem to be the perfect place for illegals flooding across Biden’s ope borders plan. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that Biden auctioned off millions of dollars worth of border wall?

No. It's not a coincidence, Trump ordered way to many materials then lost the election.

Good for Biden for selling mg that stuff instead of just letting it sit.

Pretty clearly, if your goal was an open border, you would get rid of the materials to build the wall.

Nope. That is failed logic.

About half of all illegals in America today arrived legally via VISAs. We have immigrants claiming amnesty, in accordance with the law, by the thousands and we have employers hiring illegals by the thousands.

A wall is near pointless. They will climb, tunnel, drill or go around (even Trump's perceived wall was not across the entire border) to get jobs..

But… but.. but… but what about Trump?



Yeah, Trump. He does the same thing other presidents do.

Will you hold him accountable too?

Forget drugs. Mexico’s cartels make more money trafficking PEOPLE across the border nowadays, using debt bondage to earn $13 billion from migrants’ earnings long after they enter the US, warns Texas ex-lawman


Biden’s open borders are making the cartels more money than they ever could have imagined. The cartels have a thriving child sex trafficking syndicate going.

You must be so proud.
Cartels made money under other presidents too.

You must be so proud to blame it all on one person. You are a good soldier.
 
In order to convey to you that Biden alone is not responsible for all your real or perceived issues with the border.

I hold both parties accountable and it seems like.you would too after seeing Trump and Republicans do the same thing you were lambasting Biden for.




Agreed. That is why these laws need to be addressed by Congress.



It wasn't a fraud. They get stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food. Then they get to their destination, get hired by employers who use lobbyists to keep Congress complient.

Like I said, it plays like a recruitment poster.



Do you prefer daytime only flights? I assume the night flights are cheaper.

Again...all modern presidents have done this. Why do you only hold Biden accountable?




Just to clarify, they are probably not illegals, but amnesty seekers.

I do not agree with sanctuary cities but I do support a cities constitutional right to have them.



No. It's not a coincidence, Trump ordered way to many materials then lost the election.

Good for Biden for selling mg that stuff instead of just letting it sit.



Nope. That is failed logic.

About half of all illegals in America today arrived legally via VISAs. We have immigrants claiming amnesty, in accordance with the law, by the thousands and we have employers hiring illegals by the thousands.

A wall is near pointless. They will climb, tunnel, drill or go around (even Trump's perceived wall was not across the entire border) to get jobs..



Yeah, Trump. He does the same thing other presidents do.

Will you hold him accountable too?


Cartels made money under other presidents too.

You must be so proud to blame it all on one person. You are a good soldier.

Quite clearly, Biden is alone with regard to his open border policy. He could have kept Trump’s working plan in place but eagerly abandoned all those elements.

I understand you will cling to the “but… but… but… but what about Trump”, script but I should remind you that Trump is not president.


It’s sounds like a party for the illegals who get stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food….and luxury hotel rooms, welfare, healthcare and then get to drive down wages and the standard of living for US citizens.

Let’s be honest. Biden was flying illegals across the US and dumping them in US cities. The flights were often chartered and done at night to draw less attention.

If all modern presidents have done this, I’ll be delighted to see you post the sources. Thanks.

Yeah, good for Biden selling the border wall materials. He auctioned the materials for Pennies on the dollar.

Great idea to ensure the borders stay open. Sell the border wall.

The flood of illegals under Biden is unprecedented. You may want to rejoice that among the captured illegals and got-always are criminals, sex offenders and terrorists but not everyone shares your enthusiasm for those fine folks.

And yeah, a wall is pointless when Biden sells entire portions of it because he encourages the flood of illegals. Remember, Biden rewards illegals with “stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food”.


Illegals are not claiming amnesty according to the law. I gave you the relevant US code describing the process for claiming amnesty. Biden has completely abandoned the law with his catch and release policy.

But… but… but… but what about other presidents? Cartels are making money under Biden’s open border policy than at any other time.


But.. but … but… but what about Biden’s allowance for human trafficking?



I suppose your OK with gang rape of young girls, children being forced to work like this is the 19th century, thousands of children “lost” and unaccounted for by Biden’s greed and ignorance but why would anyone endorse that behavior?
 
Quite clearly, Biden is alone with regard to his open border policy. He could have kept Trump’s working plan in place but eagerly abandoned all those elements.

I understand you will cling to the “but… but… but… but what about Trump”, script but I should remind you that Trump is not president.

Trump's working plan?

Lol. If it was working then why did immigration spike well above Obama's numbers after a couple years?

You really haven't been paying attention..

It’s sounds like a party for the illegals who get stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food….and luxury hotel rooms, welfare, healthcare and then get to drive down wages and the standard of living for US citizens.

Agreed. They should be here in the first place.

Maybe Congress should change amnesty laws?

Let’s be honest. Biden was flying illegals across the US and dumping them in US cities. The flights were often chartered and done at night to draw less attention.

Let's be honest, so have all other modern presidents.

If all modern presidents have done this, I’ll be delighted to see you post the sources. Thanks.

Trump.


Obama


Bush


Yeah, good for Biden selling the border wall materials. He auctioned the materials for Pennies on the dollar.

He got what someone was willing to pay.

Trump was stupid to buy to much shit. Another failure likely based on kickbacks.

Great idea to ensure the borders stay open. Sell the border wall.

The flood of illegals under Biden is unprecedented. You may want to rejoice that among the captured illegals and got-always are criminals, sex offenders and terrorists but not everyone shares your enthusiasm for those fine folks.

It was unprecedented under Trump too.

That is why we need the laws changed.

And yeah, a wall is pointless when Biden sells entire portions of it because he encourages the flood of illegals. Remember, Biden rewards illegals with “stuffed animal, sweatshirts and free food”.

No. That was republican governor's.

Did you not even look at the articles? I wouldn't expect you to read them word for word...but come on, at least get the central idea.

Now that we have clarified it was red state governors...are you still mad at them?

Illegals are not claiming amnesty according to the law. I gave you the relevant US code describing the process for claiming amnesty. Biden has completely abandoned the law with his catch and release policy.

They are claiming amnesty according to the law except for catch and release which has been done buy modern presidents.
But… but… but… but what about other presidents? Cartels are making money under Biden’s open border policy than at any other time.

Red state governors have some blame plus Trump's failed policies that Biden is attempting to fix.

But.. but … but… but what about Biden’s allowance for human trafficking?



I suppose your OK with gang rape of young girls, children being forced to work like this is the 19th century, thousands of children “lost” and unaccounted for by Biden’s greed and ignorance but why would anyone endorse that behavior?
No. That is why I think Congress should change the laws and you think it's more effective to blame one person.
 
Trump's working plan?

Lol. If it was working then why did immigration spike well above Obama's numbers after a couple years?

You really haven't been paying attention..



Agreed. They should be here in the first place.

Maybe Congress should change amnesty laws?



Let's be honest, so have all other modern presidents.



Trump.


Obama


Bush




He got what someone was willing to pay.

Trump was stupid to buy to much shit. Another failure likely based on kickbacks.



It was unprecedented under Trump too.

That is why we need the laws changed.



No. That was republican governor's.

Did you not even look at the articles? I wouldn't expect you to read them word for word...but come on, at least get the central idea.

Now that we have clarified it was red state governors...are you still mad at them?



They are claiming amnesty according to the law except for catch and release which has been done buy modern presidents.


Red state governors have some blame plus Trump's failed policies that Biden is attempting to fix.


No. That is why I think Congress should change the laws and you think it's more effective to blame one person.
LOL, yes. Look at the numbers of illegals under remain in Mexico vs. Biden’s open borders.
Trump's working plan?

Lol. If it was working then why did immigration spike well above Obama's numbers after a couple years?

You really haven't been paying attention..



Agreed. They should be here in the first place.

Maybe Congress should change amnesty laws?



Let's be honest, so have all other modern presidents.



Trump.


Obama


Bush




He got what someone was willing to pay.

Trump was stupid to buy to much shit. Another failure likely based on kickbacks.



It was unprecedented under Trump too.

That is why we need the laws changed.



No. That was republican governor's.

Did you not even look at the articles? I wouldn't expect you to read them word for word...but come on, at least get the central idea.

Now that we have clarified it was red state governors...are you still mad at them?



They are claiming amnesty according to the law except for catch and release which has been done buy modern presidents.


Red state governors have some blame plus Trump's failed policies that Biden is attempting to fix.


No. That is why I think Congress should change the laws and you think it's more effective to blame one person.

LOL. Yes look at the numbers of illegals under remain in Mexico vs. Biden's open borders.

You should be honest with yourself and others about Biden's open borders.

Why would Congress change Biden's open borders policy? The Dems / Marxists consistently vote as their told and Sloppy Joe wants open borders.

You fail to understand that it was not stupid to secure the border. Do you know what sovereignty means? Do you know the costs to US taxpayers for food, welfare, healthcare, effects of crime as a resilt of Biden's open borders?

Send an email to Eric Adams.



It may come as a shock to you but it's the Dem / Socialist mayors and governors who have been the "sanctuary city" groupies up until their guests started arriving. Suddenly, their complaining about Biden's open borders only because Sloppy Joe is not showering them, yet, with taxpayer dollars.

Now that we clarified it was the Dems / Marxists who applauded Biden's open borders and their sanctuary city slogans, who is responsible for illegal immigration?


Are you still applauding Biden's open borders in view of the children rape, child exploitation and drug cartels making huge profits from human smuggling? Sloppy Joe is the most "successful" human trafficker in modern times.
 

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