If your sex life is none of my business, stop demanding that I finance it

[P@triot]

Right, your insurance plan's rates are totally disconnected from all others. You have THE most expensive healthcare system in the world for relatively shitty outcomes compared to other advanced nations. Human beings in american society are commodities to be monetized, nothing more.

Nice false narrative. We have extremely affordable healthcare and it is the best healthcare in the world. Nobody is even a close second. That's why Middle Eastern oil sheiks fly to the U.S. for their healthcare. That's why Canadian officials fly to the U.S. for their healthcare.

You can lie all you want but it doenst change reality.

Meanwhile back in reality, my friend’s 75 y/o mother was sent home from the Hospital 6 hours after her ambulance ride to the Hospital. She was given two sedatives while there; one was diazepam one hour before her discharge. Her kids, two daughters, had to place the still lethargic and non-ambulatory woman into the wheelchair at the house, take her up a ramp, stand her up by the door, quickly put the wheel-chair into the house to “catch” her as they turned her around and she sat clumsily into the chair. They wheeled her into her bedroom and repeated the action so she could get into bed. About 8 hours later, the ambulance was called back as she stopped breathing. Her funeral was on the 7th of this month.

And do you have an ounce of evidence that there was malpractice here? Furthermore, did she attend some podunk hospital or some well-respected, major medical center? Also, this may come as a shock to you - but 75 year old people do die (she surpassed life expectancy which is 72 for a male and 74 for a female). Lots of variables my dear.

In any case, your anecdotal example proves nothing. We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third. That's why people fly from all around the world to come here for their healthcare.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Perhaps not allowing people to have kids would solve everything. Wouldn't bother me a bit and thetrthetre would be nobody to fill the low wage jobs. Those businesses would suffer. I would love to watch that happen.

Having those that produce them support them would solve everything.

That would be ideal. Unfortunately, the world rarely works that way.

There's a reason why it doesn't work that way. People like you continue to enable people to make decisions they say is no one else's business then force those told to butt out to pay for it when the one making the decision can't do so. Here's a novel idea. Quit enabling them to make them without being responsible for their own decisions and see how quickly we move toward the ideal.

Just so I have this straight, do you believe that someone told to butt out of a personal decision of another person because it isn't their business should be accountable, financially and/or otherwise, when the one making it telling us to butt out can't pay for their own choices? Simple yes or no will suffice.

When it comes to supporting someone else's kid, I can explain in no uncertain terms, why it's not my responsibility to do so. Would you like the politically correct or the politically incorrect version?

You won't have to support anyone's kid if they never had them in the first place.

Believing that people will stop having unintended pregnancies simply because you remove any assistance is not only an immature idea but also foolish.

 

[candycorn]

Right, your insurance plan's rates are totally disconnected from all others. You have THE most expensive healthcare system in the world for relatively shitty outcomes compared to other advanced nations. Human beings in american society are commodities to be monetized, nothing more.

Nice false narrative. We have extremely affordable healthcare and it is the best healthcare in the world. Nobody is even a close second. That's why Middle Eastern oil sheiks fly to the U.S. for their healthcare. That's why Canadian officials fly to the U.S. for their healthcare.

You can lie all you want but it doenst change reality.

Meanwhile back in reality, my friend’s 75 y/o mother was sent home from the Hospital 6 hours after her ambulance ride to the Hospital. She was given two sedatives while there; one was diazepam one hour before her discharge. Her kids, two daughters, had to place the still lethargic and non-ambulatory woman into the wheelchair at the house, take her up a ramp, stand her up by the door, quickly put the wheel-chair into the house to “catch” her as they turned her around and she sat clumsily into the chair. They wheeled her into her bedroom and repeated the action so she could get into bed. About 8 hours later, the ambulance was called back as she stopped breathing. Her funeral was on the 7th of this month.

And do you have an ounce of evidence that there was malpractice here? Furthermore, did she attend some podunk hospital or some well-respected, major medical center? Also, this may come as a shock to you - but 75 year old people do die (she surpassed life expectancy which is 72 for a male and 74 for a female). Lots of variables my dear.

In any case, your anecdotal example proves nothing. We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third. That's why people fly from all around the world to come here for their healthcare.

The woman could not walk. Having her “sleep it off” in the Hospital would have been the thing to do. People come here quite often because they need specialized operations that have been perfected here—usually because we have so many sick people. Funny that the Japanese didn’t invent the artificial heart—their national diet is one that doesn’t lend itself to heart disease; for just one example.

As for my friend’s mother, I have no evidence of malpractice. Any reasonable doctor would have ascertained the situation at the house and let her sleep off the controlled drug he administered.

 

[Conservative65]

Having those that produce them support them would solve everything.

That would be ideal. Unfortunately, the world rarely works that way.

It would work that way if it wasn't for you idiot progressives who want to make decisions based on your feelings instead of on logic and reason.

Those idiots are the ones that keep it from being more ideal then complain about it not being so.

 

[keepitreal]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

No one should be having kids they can't support.
I have to contribute to medical expenses for someone
having a baby, they can't afford to begin with,
then contribute to the expenses of caring for the kid.
Wtf...no, I don't think so

Not only is that not fair, it's irresponsible.

 

[bendog]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

I don't care if it does. I'm fine with that. But don't mandate what a policy must have, don't mandate that the Church has to provide that stuff, and most of all - don't dare make it "free" from government. Because it's not "free". I pay for it. And it's not my job to pay for progressives to have sex and spread more STD's to each other.

What is mandated for churches to do?

 

[Conservative65]

Perhaps not allowing people to have kids would solve everything. Wouldn't bother me a bit and thetrthetre would be nobody to fill the low wage jobs. Those businesses would suffer. I would love to watch that happen.

Having those that produce them support them would solve everything.

That would be ideal. Unfortunately, the world rarely works that way.

There's a reason why it doesn't work that way. People like you continue to enable people to make decisions they say is no one else's business then force those told to butt out to pay for it when the one making the decision can't do so. Here's a novel idea. Quit enabling them to make them without being responsible for their own decisions and see how quickly we move toward the ideal.

Just so I have this straight, do you believe that someone told to butt out of a personal decision of another person because it isn't their business should be accountable, financially and/or otherwise, when the one making it telling us to butt out can't pay for their own choices? Simple yes or no will suffice.

When it comes to supporting someone else's kid, I can explain in no uncertain terms, why it's not my responsibility to do so. Would you like the politically correct or the politically incorrect version?

You won't have to support anyone's kid if they never had them in the first place.

Believing that people will stop having unintended pregnancies simply because you remove any assistance is not only an immature idea but also foolish.

That they have them is still a choice THEY make and one you seem to think others are financially responsible for when the one making it can't afford it.

I never said they would stop having unintended pregnancies if assistance was removed. I don't care if they do as long as I'm not one of those forced to fund it when they do.

 

[kaz]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

Add this to the beginning:

Government should not force ... {what you said}. Grow up and stop being an idiot. Yeah, our choices are that government forces insurance to pay for your objectives or we oppose insurance paying for those. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

 

[kaz]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

I don't care if it does. I'm fine with that. But don't mandate what a policy must have, don't mandate that the Church has to provide that stuff, and most of all - don't dare make it "free" from government. Because it's not "free". I pay for it. And it's not my job to pay for progressives to have sex and spread more STD's to each other.

What is mandated for churches to do?

I'm thinking nothing. What do you have in mind?

And again, it sounds Democrat to me ...

 

[Timmy]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

Add this to the beginning:

Government should not force ... {what you said}. Grow up and stop being an idiot. Yeah, our choices are that government forces insurance to pay for your objectives or we oppose insurance paying for those. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

I didn't start this thread . The premis is "stay out of my bedroom". Well how far do we take that logic ?

 

[kaz]

So insurance shouldn't cover childbirth ? Vasectomy? Viagra ?

Add this to the beginning:

Government should not force ... {what you said}. Grow up and stop being an idiot. Yeah, our choices are that government forces insurance to pay for your objectives or we oppose insurance paying for those. You really are that stupid, aren't you?

I didn't start this thread . The premis is "stay out of my bedroom". Well how far do we take that logic ?

Read your post, he never said insurance shouldn't cover those. What is wrong with you?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Right, your insurance plan's rates are totally disconnected from all others. You have THE most expensive healthcare system in the world for relatively shitty outcomes compared to other advanced nations. Human beings in american society are commodities to be monetized, nothing more.

Nice false narrative. We have extremely affordable healthcare and it is the best healthcare in the world. Nobody is even a close second. That's why Middle Eastern oil sheiks fly to the U.S. for their healthcare. That's why Canadian officials fly to the U.S. for their healthcare.

You can lie all you want but it doenst change reality.

Meanwhile back in reality, my friend’s 75 y/o mother was sent home from the Hospital 6 hours after her ambulance ride to the Hospital. She was given two sedatives while there; one was diazepam one hour before her discharge. Her kids, two daughters, had to place the still lethargic and non-ambulatory woman into the wheelchair at the house, take her up a ramp, stand her up by the door, quickly put the wheel-chair into the house to “catch” her as they turned her around and she sat clumsily into the chair. They wheeled her into her bedroom and repeated the action so she could get into bed. About 8 hours later, the ambulance was called back as she stopped breathing. Her funeral was on the 7th of this month.

And do you have an ounce of evidence that there was malpractice here? Furthermore, did she attend some podunk hospital or some well-respected, major medical center? Also, this may come as a shock to you - but 75 year old people do die (she surpassed life expectancy which is 72 for a male and 74 for a female). Lots of variables my dear.

In any case, your anecdotal example proves nothing. We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third. That's why people fly from all around the world to come here for their healthcare.

Why should we even have substandard podunk hospitals if "We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third."?

Who's going where?

1.4 Million Americans Will Go Abroad for Medical Care This Year
1.4 Million Americans Will Go Abroad for Medical Care This Year. Should You?

Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment
Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment - CNN.com

More Americans head overseas for health care
More Americans head overseas for health care

As More Americans Have Surgeries Overseas, US Companies Consider 'Medical Tourism' a Health Care Option
US Companies Consider 'Medical Tourism' a Health Care Option


And then there's this from the New England Journal of Medicine:

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064

 

[Billy000]

Lol this is so clearly fake news bullshit. The first line of your first article even says "legal guidelines". This bullshit is not an actual law. You'd know that if you didn't read RW bullshit like New York Post.

How about the official New York City government website, you immature tool? How embarrassing for you...

NYC Commission on Human Rights Announces Strong Protections for City's Transgender

Lol your dumbass believes anything fake rwing news says. This refers to business owners or landlords who repeatedly ignore requests to use certain pronouns. It doesn't fucking apply to the citizens in general in New York.

LMAO!!! First you deny it exists...then your dumbass comes back and attempts to minimize it once you can no longer deny it. And all of that, of course, after you didn't even know about it. Ignorance really is bliss - uh Billy?

Tell me - where does the government derive the power to force a landlord or business owner to lie? Someone born a man is in fact a man. Where does the government derive the power to force people to refer to them as a woman?

Furthermore, how the fuck is a business owner or landlord supposed to memorize the "preferred pronoun" of all of their customers and/or tenants?!?

Lol dude you made the claim that there was some law that affected the freedom of speech of any NY citizen and you needed me to point out that wasn't the case.

It also said "repeated misuse of the pronoun".

The law exists (which you didn't even know). I proved the law exists (which you then denied). Now you're reaching new levels of desperation.

The only thing than being ignorant is being ignorant and too immature to admit when you are wrong. The government is literally forcing people to ignore science and tell a lie. And it is encroaching on their 1st Amendment rights to call someone whatever the hell they want.

Are you enjoying this beating your taking? You still haven't answered a single question or acknowledged that you were dead wrong (as usual).

lol I'm taking the ultimate beating huh? You take this forum way too seriously. It's a shame your dick is that small i guess.

Dude I don't even care. Okay there's some dumb law regarding landlords and business owners. You didn't even know who the law applied to til I told you lol. You said NYers in general which was totally wrong

 

[P@triot]

You won't have to support anyone's kid if they never had them in the first place.

I won't have to support them anyway - or their repulsive sexual habits - if you idiot progressives would study history, respect the U.S. Constitution, and stop being so damn greedy & selfish.

 

[P@triot]

Why should we even have substandard podunk hospitals if "We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third."?

Because we have progressives such as yourself destroying cities. Entire cities. Take Detroit for instance. An entire massive city had to file bankruptcy because of they actually implemented the idiotic marxist policies that you spout about here on USMB. And that has a terrible effect on everything - including healthcare.

Basically your saying the same things you always say - that you want us conservatives to subsidize the laziness and greed of your progressives. Sorry buttercup...no dice.

 

[P@triot]

Dude I don't even care. Okay there's some dumb law regarding landlords and business owners.

So after being proven wrong (and thus ignorant) you argued that it was "fake news". After I prove that wrong by linking directly to the government website, you now say "dude....I don't even care". Then why did you argue in the first place if you don't care?

You didn't even know who the law applied to til I told you lol. You said NYers in general which was totally wrong

Aaaaannd you went right back to lying. I never said "NYers in general". At all. Never even implied it. Nothing even close to that.

 

[P@triot]

Dude I don't even care. Okay there's some dumb law regarding landlords and business owners.

And there it is folks. A progressive admitting that they don't care the government is egregiously trampling the rights of Americans.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Why should we even have substandard podunk hospitals if "We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third."?

Because we have progressives such as yourself destroying cities. Entire cities. Take Detroit for instance. An entire massive city had to file bankruptcy because of they actually implemented the idiotic marxist policies that you spout about here on USMB. And that has a terrible effect on everything - including healthcare.

Basically your saying the same things you always say - that you want us conservatives to subsidize the laziness and greed of your progressives. Sorry buttercup...no dice.

Love the partisanshit shoog;

Now, about the rest?

Who's going where?

1.4 Million Americans Will Go Abroad for Medical Care This Year
1.4 Million Americans Will Go Abroad for Medical Care This Year. Should You?

Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment
Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment - CNN.com

More Americans head overseas for health care
More Americans head overseas for health care

As More Americans Have Surgeries Overseas, US Companies Consider 'Medical Tourism' a Health Care Option
US Companies Consider 'Medical Tourism' a Health Care Option


And then there's this from the New England Journal of Medicine:

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064

 

[Fenton Lum]

Why should we even have substandard podunk hospitals if "We have by far and away the greatest healthcare in the world. There is literally not even a close second or third."?

Because we have progressives such as yourself destroying cities. Entire cities. Take Detroit for instance. An entire massive city had to file bankruptcy because of they actually implemented the idiotic marxist policies that you spout about here on USMB. And that has a terrible effect on everything - including healthcare.

Basically your saying the same things you always say - that you want us conservatives to subsidize the laziness and greed of your progressives. Sorry buttercup...no dice.

You're a deadbeat taking out of society, struggling mightily to give nothing back. That's not conservative at all.

 

[initforme]

Patriot do you support my right to mistreat my flag?