If you can Afford Smokes & Booze, you need to get the Fuck off of Welfare, mmmkay...

[jillian]

I agree.

On a related note, if you make use of Government programs (medicare/healthcare, unemployment assistance, etc..) you should not be allowed to preach about wanting "smaller" government.

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

 

[Claudette]

The American Worker doesn't Need to Subsidize your Habit, Early Illness and Death.

If you can Afford those things, then you don't Need Welfare...

If Welfare is Paying for those things, you need to be Punished.



peace...

Define "welfare."

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

 

[WillowTree]

I agree.

On a related note, if you make use of Government programs (medicare/healthcare, unemployment assistance, etc..) you should not be allowed to preach about wanting "smaller" government.

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

loon, pennies for welfare? you gotta be kidding.

 

[jillian]

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

loon, pennies for welfare? you gotta be kidding.

compared to what you guys wasted on iraq for no reason?

poor willow.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

The American Worker doesn't Need to Subsidize your Habit, Early Illness and Death.

If you can Afford those things, then you don't Need Welfare...

If Welfare is Paying for those things, you need to be Punished.



peace...

Define "welfare."

How you derive your pot and Cheetos money

I don't smoke pot and I buy my Cheetos with the enormous wealth I've accumulated.

 

[WillowTree]

The American Worker doesn't Need to Subsidize your Habit, Early Illness and Death.

If you can Afford those things, then you don't Need Welfare...

If Welfare is Paying for those things, you need to be Punished.



peace...

Define "welfare."

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

If the demonRats have their way we're gonna send Mexico's kids to college too. You, Mr. and Mrs. American TaxPayer can root hog and die poor.

 

[Jarhead]

I agree.

On a related note, if you make use of Government programs (medicare/healthcare, unemployment assistance, etc..) you should not be allowed to preach about wanting "smaller" government.

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

Huh?
Not sure where that came from.
I simply said that whereas I am for smaller government, if I am forced to put into SS, then I will take advantage of it.
If I was not forced to put into SS, then I would not put into it and take from it as I am against larger government

 

[uscitizen]

The American Worker doesn't Need to Subsidize your Habit, Early Illness and Death.

If you can Afford those things, then you don't Need Welfare...

If Welfare is Paying for those things, you need to be Punished.



peace...

How liberal of you to be like momma government regulating the lives of others just becuase of their finiancial status.

 

[WillowTree]

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

loon, pennies for welfare? you gotta be kidding.

compared to what you guys wasted on iraq for no reason?

poor willow.

Show us. Line up welfare money next to Iraq money. I'd like to see it.

 

[jillian]

The American Worker doesn't Need to Subsidize your Habit, Early Illness and Death.

If you can Afford those things, then you don't Need Welfare...

If Welfare is Paying for those things, you need to be Punished.



peace...

Define "welfare."

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

yeah, make the kids starve...

but go try to make it illegal for the women to get easily available, insurance covered and safe abortions...

while insurance companies pay for viagra.

 

[WillowTree]

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

Huh?
Not sure where that came from.
I simply said that whereas I am for smaller government, if I am forced to put into SS, then I will take advantage of it.
If I was not forced to put into SS, then I would not put into it and take from it as I am against larger government

It came from outta her ass.

 

[Jarhead]

Define "welfare."

Obama Money.

really? do tell...

you mean the money that went to rich bankers?

that kind of welfare?

Im done addressing talking points rhetoric

 

[uscitizen]

loon, pennies for welfare? you gotta be kidding.

compared to what you guys wasted on iraq for no reason?

poor willow.

Show us. Line up welfare money next to Iraq money. I'd like to see it.

so you think money spent helping people is of the same value as money spent killing people?

 

[DiamondDave]

Define "welfare."

How you derive your pot and Cheetos money

I don't smoke pot and I buy my Cheetos with the enormous wealth I've accumulated.

 

[DiamondDave]

compared to what you guys wasted on iraq for no reason?

poor willow.

Show us. Line up welfare money next to Iraq money. I'd like to see it.

so you think money spent helping people is of the same value as money spent killing people?

Constitutionally, yes....

But not like I would applaud the voluntary use of monies to pay for a hit man rather than giving it to charity

 

[WillowTree]

Define "welfare."

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

yeah, make the kids starve...

but go try to make it illegal for the women to get easily available, insurance covered and safe abortions...

while insurance companies pay for viagra.

which is smarter? Birth control or abortions? You want us the AMerican taxpayer to now pay for convenient easily avoided abortions.

 

[WillowTree]

compared to what you guys wasted on iraq for no reason?

poor willow.

Show us. Line up welfare money next to Iraq money. I'd like to see it.

so you think money spent helping people is of the same value as money spent killing people?

Jillian made a claim. I want her to show me.

 

[Jarhead]

Define "welfare."

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

yeah, make the kids starve...

but go try to make it illegal for the women to get easily available, insurance covered and safe abortions...

while insurance companies pay for viagra.

Curious...

If there was no welfare, food stamps, or government assistance programs....and a parent used their money to buy alcohol and a big screen tv...and the poor child starves to death....would it be the governments fault for not having programs to ensure that child eats?

Now, lets say that parent found a way to sell their entitlements for drugs and alcohol and so, once again the child starves to death....iwho's fault is it in that case?

Finally....just curious....exactly when was the last time that you heard a child had starved to death in the US?

 

[jillian]

Unless you are FORCED to pay into them.

i was forced to help pay for a war of choice in Iraq that was started for no reason...

i'll be fine with you getting your pennies back for "welfare" so long as i get my bucks back for Iraq.

Huh?
Not sure where that came from.
I simply said that whereas I am for smaller government, if I am forced to put into SS, then I will take advantage of it.
If I was not forced to put into SS, then I would not put into it and take from it as I am against larger government

where did it come from?

your complaint was that you didn't want to be forced to pay for things like health insurance so that others could be covered and we could afford to do it.

my response was to name something that *I* did not choose to pay for or want to pay for but was forced to pay for.

 

[uscitizen]

Thats easy.

Its irresponsible folks, i.e. having kids they can't afford, who slough off their responsibilities to the taxpayers of America.

The taxpayers that are forced to provide food, houseing, medical and dental care for these kids till they are 18 and beyond. Hell. We even send them to college.

Its charity. Forced charity.

Pretty good considering there is no charity in the constitution unless you bend and twist that ol'General Welfare clause.

yeah, make the kids starve...

but go try to make it illegal for the women to get easily available, insurance covered and safe abortions...

while insurance companies pay for viagra.

which is smarter? Birth control or abortions? You want us the AMerican taxpayer to now pay for convenient easily avoided abortions.

finiancially it is a sound decision. cheaper to abort than to support on welfare for 18 years.