Zone1 If Voter Fraud Is So Easy, Why is it So Rare?

[candycorn]

It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.

What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.

What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...

Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.

Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...

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If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.

Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.

Why?

 

[Darkwind]

It isn't rare. It's just not reported.

 

[candycorn]

It isn't rare. It's just not reported.

Oh? So all of these hundreds of thousands of instances of voter fraud are never reported?

Seems unlikely.

 

[Mashmont]

Oh? So all of these hundreds of thousands of instances of voter fraud are never reported?

Seems unlikely.

How often did the leftwing media report on Joe Biden's dementia prior to the June, 2024 debate? They have proven they will circle the wagons and put out whatever lie they deem necessary. Democrats in the states with no voter ID requirements have obviously stolen the hell out of election. They know they can get away with it. Why wouldn't they do it?

 

[candycorn]

Democrats in the states with no voter ID requirements have obviously stolen the hell out of election. They know they can get away with it. Why wouldn't they do it?

There is no proof of any election being stolen. Your argument is as undocumented as it is silly.

Trump got more votes in California than any other state. 6 million votes.

Few (if any) republicans in California reported their ballots being stolen, votes being cast in their name, or any other fraud--few if any reports from the voters, few if any reports from the candidates who lost.

Drilling down deeper into California... 4 of the GOP seats in Congress are held by California republicans who got less than 55% of the vote in 2024. One got 50.3%.

Care to explain how a party that has "stolen the hell" out of elections didn't rig 3-4% more in their favor and let those seats flip/stay red?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.

What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.

What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...

Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.

Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...

kmph.com

If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.

Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.

Why?

One fraudulent vote negates a legitimate one. I know you loons love your groupthink but in this country the individual matters.

 

[yidnar]

It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.

What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.

What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...

Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.

Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...

kmph.com

If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.

Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.

Why?

the Safe Act will get passed ..

Thread 'Republicans should use the Nuclear Option and pass voter id requirements .'

Feb 15, 2026

republicans have the perfect reason to bypass the Filibuster and pass the Safe Act that requires ID to vote... what is that reason ? over 70% of the American people support voter ID requirements ! in other words Dems are willing to spit on the will of the people and block legislation that the vast vast majority of Americans want ! if that's the case then republicans are not only politically justified to end the Filibuster and pass the Safe Act into law ... they are obligated to use the Nuclear Option ! the government operates at the behest of the American people ! not at the behest of...

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[candycorn]

One fraudulent vote negates a legitimate one. I know you loons love your groupthink but in this country the individual matters.

The fraudulent votes are incredibly rare. There is no evidence to the contrary.

 

[IM2]

Groupthink is coming from the people who continue claiming there is massive voter fraud when all the evidence has consistently shown that it is not.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The fraudulent votes are incredibly rare. There is no evidence to the contrary.

One fraudulent vote negates a legitimate one.

 

[candycorn]

Groupthink is coming from the people who continue claiming there is massive voter fraud when all the evidence has consistently shown that it is not.

Yeah....

If it were as easy as the right wing folks claim...one would think it would be less rare.

 

[Darkwind]

Oh? So all of these hundreds of thousands of instances of voter fraud are never reported?

Seems unlikely.

Why does it seem unlikely?

We know that the media won't report on it.

We know that many, if not all, blue cities deliberately underreport crime openly, and vastly over exaggerate it, when they need money or a political cover.

In any given election year, the local news in any major city will make mention or two of someone caught voting when they were not supposed to. It gets laughed off as you know, a few crazies.

But that is one polling place in thousands of polling places and today, elections are balanced on 1000 to 500 votes.

You can bet it doesn't get reported.

 

[candycorn]

Why does it seem unlikely?

It would be massive news if there was widescale voter fraud..

We know that the media won't report on it.

No. You use that as an excuse.

We know that many, if not all, blue cities deliberately underreport crime openly, and vastly over exaggerate it, when they need money or a political cover.

Another baseless allegation of yours.

In any given election year, the local news in any major city will make mention or two of someone caught voting when they were not supposed to. It gets laughed off as you know, a few crazies.

It is a few crazies who have done so to benefit both major political parties.

But that is one polling place in thousands of polling places and today, elections are balanced on 1000 to 500 votes.

You can bet it doesn't get reported.

Well, perhaps you would place the bet. You'd lose.

Explain how the massive voter fraud never shows up in the official vote counts. The votes have to reflect the down ballot races too.

Explain how thousands of those who live in those districts where the down ballot races are aren't screaming about their votes having been cast without their knowing about it.

Explain how--as was brought up earlier--a republican wins in California with less than a full percentage point to avoid a run-off? (CA 3rd in 2024).

While you're at it...if the Democrats are so expert at rigging elections, why does the GOP have majorities in both chambers of Congress?

 

[Darkwind]

Explain how the massive voter fraud never shows up in the official vote counts. The votes have to reflect the down ballot races too.

Are you serious?

Who controls the official vote counts?


Wow.

 

[candycorn]

Are you serious?

Who controls the official vote counts?


Wow.

The secretary of state's office, prior to that, the county clerks.

So you're alleging fraud there too?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yeah....

If it were as easy as the right wing folks claim...one would think it would be less rare.

/——/ Here ya go:

 

[candycorn]

/——/ Here ya go:

Did the dog actually vote?

 

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[the watcher]

There is no proof of any election being stolen. Your argument is as undocumented as it is silly.

Trump got more votes in California than any other state. 6 million votes.

Few (if any) republicans in California reported their ballots being stolen, votes being cast in their name, or any other fraud--few if any reports from the voters, few if any reports from the candidates who lost.

Drilling down deeper into California... 4 of the GOP seats in Congress are held by California republicans who got less than 55% of the vote in 2024. One got 50.3%.

Care to explain how a party that has "stolen the hell" out of elections didn't rig 3-4% more in their favor and let those seats flip/stay red?

There is no proof that Iran, Russia, Syria, Cuba, or Venezuela is a threat to the US, and yet here we are poised to attack. You can't report a vote misused for the same reason you can't report misuse of your tax money: once you give it up it goes down a rabbit hole. There are only criminals and unindicted coconspirators in the public domain that you can "vote" for and will never know who is calling the shots. That is your lot in life.

 

[candycorn]

You can't report a vote misused for the same reason you can't report misuse of your tax money:

False. There is tracking of every ballot.

Few (if any) are experiencing the phenomenon of someone else having voted in their place (aka voter fraud).

Again, if there was massive voter fraud taking place, you'd not only see that in the vote tabulations but you'd also see it in terms of persons filing suit about having their votes cast without them knowing it, suing election board(s) for allowing this to happen, and, more importantly arresting the people who cast the ballot. Again, all of this is tracked. If it shows Jane Doe voted at booth #1 at 12:01 PM at Elm Street Elementary School, there is undoubtedly a way to surveil who was in that booth at that time.