If The US spends over $600 billion on their military...

[Mudda]

But tactically, we have $600 billion and the Taliban have no billions. So how can we be losing? It makes no sense.

Because there's big money to be made off war.

Why shut down the gravy train early with overwhelming military superiority?

We have way too much gravy!

 

[Wyatt earp]

That's a lie. Liberal politicians micro-managed Vietnam and did the troops an extreme disservice by putting them in harm's way and tying their hands. Trump is letting the military micro-manage his orders. Libs don't like military spending, we get it, starving babies, granny over the cliff and all that...

So we spend over $600 billion/year and can't get the job done in Afghanistan, who don't have any planes, tanks, or heavy artillery... How do you explain that?

You don't know much about counter-insurgency warfare, do you?

Those planes we have often fly too high and too fast. The roads and villages cannot handle the tanks. How do you use artillery without taking a chance on collateral damage.

The best thing to take out a Taliban fighter with an AK-47 is a American soldier, sailor or Marine with an M-4/M-16, face-to face.

I have helped train them do that for years.

Then you suck at training soldiers because we're not winning in Afghanistan.

You can't win a fight with your hands tied behind your back.

Excuses don't win wars either.

What excuses? Trump sent an unprecedented three Carrier fleet around North Korea..

 

[Mudda]

Ok, but WHY can't the US army ever win?

Do you realize that in Vietnam, we never lost a battle? Yet, we lost the war because liberals here in the US did not have a stomach for what needed to be done.

So we lost in Nam. To people wearing flip-flops. Agreed.

Your ignorance on this topic appears to be unequaled. Congratulations!

We also couldn't beat North Korea, and they're starving!

South Korea is free.

We still couldn't beat a starving people, and could only manage a draw!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not talking partisan-ly, just in general, with a $600 billion+ budget, we can't take Afghanistan? Why?

Probably left over guilt from nuking Japan at the end of WWII.

But tactically, we have $600 billion and the Taliban have no billions. So how can we be losing? It makes no sense.

No standing army to kill in Afghanistan.. Now is their?

.

So unless there is an identifiable opponent who is easy to spot and kill, we lose. Got it.

Got to hold the peace ..like Germany and Japan..

 

[Mudda]

The US has troops in Germany and Japan still, a total waste of resources. But the US couldn't beat Viet Nam where they were fighting in flip-flops!!! Nor Iraq or Afghanistan, and even got its ass kicked by Somalia. SOMALIA!!!!!!

Hands Tied Leads to Hands Up

Rules of Engagement. The Geneva Convention mandated defeat and surrender.

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As if the US army goes by the Geneva Convention, lol.

 

[Mr Natural]

South Korea is free.

Living under the constant threat of anilihation from a psychotic neighbor is not exactly free.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Do you realize that in Vietnam, we never lost a battle? Yet, we lost the war because liberals here in the US did not have a stomach for what needed to be done.

So we lost in Nam. To people wearing flip-flops. Agreed.

Your ignorance on this topic appears to be unequaled. Congratulations!

We also couldn't beat North Korea, and they're starving!

South Korea is free.

We still couldn't beat a starving people, and could only manage a draw!!

It was a proxy war , Russia and China was involved..

 

[Mudda]

The US has troops in Germany and Japan still, a total waste of resources. But the US couldn't beat Viet Nam where they were fighting in flip-flops!!! Nor Iraq or Afghanistan, and even got its ass kicked by Somalia. SOMALIA!!!!!!

Rules of Engagement put in place by liberals!

Couldn't win in Iraq or Afghanistan under GW Bush.

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

 

[Mudda]

So we spend over $600 billion/year and can't get the job done in Afghanistan, who don't have any planes, tanks, or heavy artillery... How do you explain that?

You don't know much about counter-insurgency warfare, do you?

Those planes we have often fly too high and too fast. The roads and villages cannot handle the tanks. How do you use artillery without taking a chance on collateral damage.

The best thing to take out a Taliban fighter with an AK-47 is a American soldier, sailor or Marine with an M-4/M-16, face-to face.

I have helped train them do that for years.

Then you suck at training soldiers because we're not winning in Afghanistan.

You can't win a fight with your hands tied behind your back.

Excuses don't win wars either.

What excuses? Trump sent an unprecedented three Carrier fleet around North Korea..

And which war did he not win doing that?

 

[Wyatt earp]

South Korea is free.

Living under the constant threat of anilihation from a psychotic neighbor is not exactly free.

When has North Korea ever attacked South Korea?

In the last 50 years?

 

[Mudda]

Not talking partisan-ly, just in general, with a $600 billion+ budget, we can't take Afghanistan? Why?

Probably left over guilt from nuking Japan at the end of WWII.

But tactically, we have $600 billion and the Taliban have no billions. So how can we be losing? It makes no sense.

No standing army to kill in Afghanistan.. Now is their?

.

So unless there is an identifiable opponent who is easy to spot and kill, we lose. Got it.

Got to hold the peace ..like Germany and Japan..

You have to reach back 75 years to the last time the US won a war.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Rules of Engagement put in place by liberals!

Couldn't win in Iraq or Afghanistan under GW Bush.

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

What lost war?

 

[Mudda]

So we lost in Nam. To people wearing flip-flops. Agreed.

Your ignorance on this topic appears to be unequaled. Congratulations!

We also couldn't beat North Korea, and they're starving!

South Korea is free.

We still couldn't beat a starving people, and could only manage a draw!!

It was a proxy war , Russia and China was involved..

And we outspend them militarily by a mile.

 

[Mudda]

Couldn't win in Iraq or Afghanistan under GW Bush.

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

What lost war?

Iraq and Afghanistan. Were you asleep the whole time?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Probably left over guilt from nuking Japan at the end of WWII.

But tactically, we have $600 billion and the Taliban have no billions. So how can we be losing? It makes no sense.

No standing army to kill in Afghanistan.. Now is their?

.

So unless there is an identifiable opponent who is easy to spot and kill, we lose. Got it.

Got to hold the peace ..like Germany and Japan..

You have to reach back 75 years to the last time the US won a war.

Seriously? Reagan wom the cold war with out firing a shot.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Rules of Engagement put in place by liberals!

Couldn't win in Iraq or Afghanistan under GW Bush.

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

Your knowledge on this topic is underwhelming. Try again after you do some research.

My son's infantry unit was the last combat brigade out of Iraq. They had no difficulties.

Less than two years later they were in Afghanistan and battling the Taliban daily. Rocket attacks hit their main base almost daily.

See the difference?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

What lost war?

Iraq and Afghanistan. Were you asleep the whole time?

Who was asleep?/when did we lose Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The war was over in Iraq ..the idiot started it back up

The war we lost in Iraq was over. Agreed.

Obama tried to lose the war


No?

He inherited an already lost war.

What lost war?

Iraq and Afghanistan. Were you asleep the whole time?

Why are you making shit up?

 

[Darkwind]

We haven't lost anything. Clowns like you can make up a billion scenarios that have no bearing on reality and claim that we can't win when in fact, wherever we go, we waltz through the opposition and reduce them to isolated pockets of losers whose only option is to act like pests and do no real harm to us.

Vietnam was lost by the left, not our military.
Afghanistan was obliterated
Iraq lasted all of three days.

We maintain base around the globe, project our military might wherever we wish, and so far, have held several madmen at bay for decades.

If the US Military was as ineffective as you claimed, the rest of the world wouldn't fear it, but Russia does, China does, all the middle east does.

Your little game playing is now exposed. Stop your sniveling and find a real cause you can get behind. Might I suggest liaison for the Gay Pride movement to the middle east?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

/---- What countries are we fighting? I don't mean Jihadist that have no country I mean countries (Like Germany, Japan, Italy)
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The US has troops in Germany and Japan still, a total waste of resources. But the US couldn't beat Viet Nam where they were fighting in flip-flops!!! Nor Iraq or Afghanistan, and even got its ass kicked by Somalia. SOMALIA!!!!!!

That's a lie. Liberal politicians micro-managed Vietnam and did the troops an extreme disservice by putting them in harm's way and tying their hands. Trump is letting the military micro-manage his orders. Libs don't like military spending, we get it, starving babies, granny over the cliff and all that...

So we spend over $600 billion/year and can't get the job done in Afghanistan, who don't have any planes, tanks, or heavy artillery... How do you explain that?

I don't recall lefties wringing their hands over it the previous 8 years so I have to dismiss it for what it is.

Not talking partisan-ly, just in general, with a $600 billion+ budget, we can't take Afghanistan? Why?

What So Proudly We Halliburton

We should have nuked Tora Bora and left. But that would have made it seem like the War on Terror was over and done. The sissyboy HeirGuardsman and Darth Evader needed to drag out the war in order to fund the corporations engaging in ultraliberal "nation-building." Besides, why would you expect a quick victory from a Fortunate Son Chickenhawk-in-Chief whose military experience was "two weeks in the summer, one weekend a month"?

Populists must take away all power from the class that produces draftdodging pro-war sons of pro-war politicians. What is most sickening is hearing a combat veteran make excuses for that ilk. That shows how little respect Unfortunate Sons have for themselves, so we shouldn't respect their slavish opinions.