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Yep, Polosi and Reid thought they had a mandate and so did Obama, what did we get was more spending and Obamacare. But let's not forget that, prior to Obama the National Debt had risen to close to $11 trillion from previous actions by previous presidents and congresses. That's still no excuse for the Dems thinking they had a mandate to do whatever they wanted, but in real terms, it's not just Pelosi, Reid and Obama, it's the actions dating back to the 80's.
Now, when I hear Tea Party members of Congress spouting they had a mandate, I see them assuming they had a mandate to do whatever they want. They had great success running on cutting spending, but it appears a majority of the American public don't like their no surrender/no compromise approach.
And speaking of raising taxes,,,,most quarters including the American public and the S&P think that there should be tax increases, primarily on the wealthy. The Tea Party just wants to poor and middle class to bear the financial responsibility of righting America's economic ship, while the wealthy escape any responsibility in the righting of America's economic ship. Yet as facts bear out, since the recession started, the middle class and the poor have lost ground in America's economy to the tune of record levels, while the wealthy have significantly gained in America's economy. Now the middle class and poor are supposed to lose even more ground, while the wealthy keep on capturing more of the economy? And that's morally right? That is pure Plutocracy and I dare anyone to prove me wrong. When Grover Nyquist said "“Not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase", he was conceding that revenue's needed to be increased. When everyone contributes to righting America;s economic ship, we have a moral and fair approach.
GWB could have done a better job
9-11 is a forgotten event
we got within 163 billion oaf a balanced budget in 2007, the last GOP event
what you say about the tea party is not true
smaller govt has nothing to do with the poor and the middle class bearing all of the resp
A balanced budget comes from a smaller govt
where do you people get this crap?
And the wealthy capturing more of the economy is because they are wealthy
your act like they are contributing nothing
If a rich man makes no money, one day he will not be rich
if a rich man pays no taxes, one day he will not be rich
if a rich man makes money, he will pay allot in taxes
or for that matter a woman
Where do I get this crap? Try the real world!
FACT: Workers wages are where they were in the 1980's in Real Dollars! Who has benefited? Try the wealthy, because the flat wages enhanced the bottom line. That in itself explain the working middle class losing out in the US economy, while the wealthy have gained in the economy. When someone loses, some else wins. This isn't rocket science, it's just that simple.! Plutocracy in action! The Tea Party and people like you want to keep on pushing Main Street America off the cliff. I'd bet many of those same people are part of Main Street America and are in fact, shooting themselves in the foot.
In a Plutocratic world, the American version of capitalism doesn't work. Two-thirds of the US capitalistic economy is driven by consumer spending. The middle class is the heart of consumer spending. When the middle class has less expendable wealth, the capitalistic economy falters because of the lack of participation of the middle class (See the Great Depression). Right now the middle class isn't spending, there is no demand, with no demand there is no supply. Supply and demand, supply and demand, isn't that the very basics of a capitalistic economy?
And please explain the moral justicfication of just the middle class and poor being responsible for righting America's economic ship, where as the wealthy who have factually benefited in an economy that needs fixing, just slide on by as far as realizing any responsibility?
If your "wealthy" and your tax rate goes from X to Y and Y is lower than X
guess what?
your going to have more wealth
That blows me away, thats the reason its being done
How is the tea party pushing main stream america of off the cliff? They want lower taxes and a smaller govt
No one is spending, ask yourself why? (hint hint, this is why we have lost 6 million jobs sense 2008)
we have plenty of oil
we have demand
BHO wont let us touch allot of it