If Joe Biden's Extortion of Ukraine to Get the Prosecutor Fired Wasn't Quid Pro Quo, What Is?

The problem there is that the GOP in general and Trump in particular have a history of claiming that the fact of an investigation is proof of "something" and using it politically.

Of ourse that's what you want...isn't it. Be honest
For 3 years......investigation after investigation...........and those the liberals said were righteous and would prove your insane talking points have fallen like flies............

Like your hero Comey........oops......not your hero anymore.......he failed to do your bidding.

Your side for years wanted a full investigation of 2016..........what's the problem with clearing Biden's name by looking into it................Unlike you he is innocent til proven guilty...............well his words from his mouth make him seem guilty as hell..............perhaps we need to dig deeper into that so he can clear it up for us.
Are you talking about Benghazi?

Or are you talking about the "investigation" opened regarding Hillary's e-mails that was reopened 10 days before the 2016 election...and closed within days after opening it had it's intended effect politically
 
What?! Uh, the prosecutor WAS investigating Burisma. After the prosecutor began to investigate Burisma, Burisma hired Hunter Biden, clearly in the hope that doing so would at least shield Burisma from further scrutiny and possibly in the hope that Hunter would persuade dad to pressure Ukraine to halt the investigation or fire the prosecutor.

Okay, I know you need to believe that.. but there was no investigation by Shokin into Bursima.

Trump's Biden-Ukraine natural gas conspiracy theory: False, but alive
 
Biden was executing a State Department policy that was not only backed by the EU,the IMF, the World Bank, the G7, the Ukrainian Parliament, and numerous REPUBLICAN Senators...FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION

Trump on the other hand had Rudy the Ghoul executing a shadow State Department objective that had as its goal helping TRUMP politically

The quid pro quo was never the real issue (although it was there)...the fact that he was trying to coerce Ukraine into manufacturing political dirt on his opponent was illegal on its face
Then you wouldn't mind a full investigation on Biden then.

Just to clear up how righteous his actions were there. If he and his son are innocent, then you should WELCOME it. It would clear forever that Biden and his son were there playing golf with oil executives for the good of our country. To end corruption.

It was just sheer coincidence that Hunter suddenly got hired by these same people. Same as his firm getting a 1.5 Billion dollar contract in China right after they had meetings there.

Coincidences all over the place. Imagine that. We welcome the investigation of the Biden's to CLEAR THEIR NAMES THEN.

Good Points lib.
Only the seedy-ness of politics would be uncovered.
Nothing more than we already know.
Its just like Trump having foreign dignitaries stay in Trump hotels.
Or Rick Perry pushing to get donor installed at a Ukraine gas company.

As far as asking China to probe Biden, nobody says this is acceptable.
63 percent say its a serious problem. Ted Cruz and Susan Collins as well.
It was so bad that Trump had to say he was joking about it. Amazingly, only 40% of republicans think Trump asked Ukraine to investigate biden.

You dont go about investigating using illegal means which is worse than what you're attempting to investigate.
 
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Biden was executing a State Department policy that was not only backed by the EU,the IMF, the World Bank, the G7, the Ukrainian Parliament, and numerous REPUBLICAN Senators...FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION.

Oh, HOGWASH. That policy was never intended to include the vice president threatening to withhold aid if this or that prosecutor wasn't fired when that prosecutor was investigating what clearly appeared to be corruption. And isn't it just an amazing coincidence that Biden zeroed in on the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma? And isn't it an equally amazing coincidence that when the prosecutor began to investigate Burisma, Burisma hired Biden's loser son for the staggering salary of $50K per month?

Trump on the other hand had Rudy the Ghoul executing a shadow State Department objective that had as its goal helping TRUMP politically.

LOL! Trump spoke with Zelensky with numerous other people on the phone, including the Ukrainian foreign minister and our own secretary of state. Furthermore, if it clearly appeared that Biden had acted corruptly to get the prosecutor fired, and that the prosecutor's reasons for investigating Burisma clearly appeared to have merit, Trump had every moral right in the world to want to see this matter investigated.

Just because you're running for president doesn't mean you get a pass to threaten foreign governments because a government prosecutor was investigating the company that suspiciously hired your son for a wholly unjustified salary just after the company became aware that it was being investigated.
 
Joe Biden himself has bragged, on video, that by threatening to withhold $1 billion in aid money (loan guarantees), he got the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor who was investigating the company that had hired his son Hunter Biden for $50K per month. Said Biden in 2018,

I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. (FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor)​

Ukraine buckled under that threat and fired the prosecutor. If that's not quid pro quo, what is?

Hunter Biden had no apparent skills that would justify sitting on the board of Burisma, much less any skills that would justify a salary of $50K per month. It is revealing that Burisma hired Hunter Biden after the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, began to investigate the company, which of course suggests that Hunter Biden was hired in the hope that his hiring would persuade Joe Biden to demand that the prosecutor be fired and/or that Hunter would persuade his dad to do so.

. . . the allegation that has been . . . that Zlochevsky [of Burisma] hired Hunter Biden after the allegations surfaced in order to evade charges in the hopes that Hunter might use his influence to persuade his dad to push for the firing of the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin (Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden).​

Biden's claim that he and his son never discussed his involvement with Burisma at the time is contradicted by his son's own statements:

According To Hunter Biden, Joe Biden Lied About Ukraine

And, of course, now we know that in 2015 even Obama's State Department raised concerns about Hunter Biden's Ukraine dealings, but a Biden staffer shut down the objections:

A state official reportedly raised concerns about Hunter Biden's Ukraine work in 2015. A Biden staffer shut him down.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/18/state-department-official-raised-concerns-about-hunter-biden/

Gee, what do you call that?

And Democrats are mad because Trump asked Ukraine to investigate their end of this clearly corrupt affair?

You are missing something big. Big time. A Trump supporter like you always look the other way with very poor or no evidence.

1. True Biden said this and that. But firing a corrupted and crooked prosecutor general Victor Shokin was the goal of American allies, International Monetary Fund, anti corruption group in Ukraine & Obama administration.
Show me where Biden commits any crime or a fraud.

2. True Hunter Biden was unqualified and overpaid. Did he steal anything? If you attack that. How many of Trump cabinet members got fired or resigned from corruption and ethics violations? How about Trump kids running all over the place doing far worse than Hunter?
How about Kushner running around as diplomat with zero experience with garbage policy?
Tell me if I’m wrong.

3. All of these crap came from a conspiracy theory crap that Trump fell in love. Then you have his henchmen personal lawyer running around doing the investigation representing like he work for state department. Working with corrupted Ukrainians. Since when that is acceptable?

4. Trump asking a favor to dig dirt of his political enemies is totally corrupt. Trying to rig or rape the next election 2020. If he wants to go after corruptions in Ukraine. Why not go after the total corruption in Ukraine instead of his one political rival?
Tell me if I’m wrong.

All these Ukraine scandals are now falling apart. Guilliani 2 corrupted buddies that he worked with this conspiracy crap are both in jail. Guilliani is next. There’s got to be law somewhere.
 
Biden was executing a State Department policy that was not only backed by the EU,the IMF, the World Bank, the G7, the Ukrainian Parliament, and numerous REPUBLICAN Senators...FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION.

Oh, HOGWASH. That policy was never intended to include the vice president threatening to withhold aid if this or that prosecutor wasn't fired when that prosecutor was investigating what clearly appeared to be corruption. And isn't it just an amazing coincidence that Biden zeroed in on the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma? And isn't it an equally amazing coincidence that when the prosecutor began to investigate Burisma, Burisma hired Biden's loser son for the staggering salary of $50K per month?

Trump on the other hand had Rudy the Ghoul executing a shadow State Department objective that had as its goal helping TRUMP politically.

LOL! Trump spoke with Zelensky with numerous other people on the phone, including the Ukrainian foreign minister and our own secretary of state. Furthermore, if it clearly appeared that Biden had acted corruptly to get the prosecutor fired, and that the prosecutor's reasons for investigating Burisma clearly appeared to have merit, Trump had every moral right in the world to want to see this matter investigated.

Just because you're running for president doesn't mean you get a pass to threaten foreign governments because a government prosecutor was investigating the company that suspiciously hired your son for a wholly unjustified salary just after the company became aware that it was being investigated.

A well known corrupted general prosecutor Shokin investigating
Burisma..... Tell me what’s the credibility of that investigation?

You have not established any didley squat of evidence that Biden stole or commit any fraud.

But there’s a very clear evidence a well known corrupted Shokin all over the place.. You are not attacking that?
Why do you support corruptions and corrupted disgusting people?
 
What?! Uh, the prosecutor WAS investigating Burisma. After the prosecutor began to investigate Burisma, Burisma hired Hunter Biden, clearly in the hope that doing so would at least shield Burisma from further scrutiny and possibly in the hope that Hunter would persuade dad to pressure Ukraine to halt the investigation or fire the prosecutor.

Okay, I know you need to believe that.. but there was no investigation by Shokin into Bursima.

Trump's Biden-Ukraine natural gas conspiracy theory: False, but alive

Look, Mr. Phony Conservative, rather than rely on liberal media denials on this issue, such as the one you cited from USA Today, why don't you do some real research. Here are some articles with which you could start, and you will see that, yes, contrary to liberal "fact checkers," Shokin, as chief prosecutor, was in charge of the Burisma investigation:

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities
 
Ukraine is totally a Joe and Hunter Biden scandal for selling influence when Joe was VP, and continuing until recently with Joe as a Presidential candidate, yet the Media largely suppresses it, and only talks out the Trump "impeachment".
 
What?! Uh, the prosecutor WAS investigating Burisma. After the prosecutor began to investigate Burisma, Burisma hired Hunter Biden, clearly in the hope that doing so would at least shield Burisma from further scrutiny and possibly in the hope that Hunter would persuade dad to pressure Ukraine to halt the investigation or fire the prosecutor.

Okay, I know you need to believe that.. but there was no investigation by Shokin into Bursima.

Trump's Biden-Ukraine natural gas conspiracy theory: False, but alive

Look, Mr. Phony Conservative, rather than rely on liberal media denials on this issue, such as the one you cited from USA Today, why don't you do some real research. Here are some articles with which you could start, and you will see that, yes, contrary to liberal "fact checkers," Shokin, as chief prosecutor, was in charge of the Burisma investigation:

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities

Sad part of your link are all coming from a die hard right wing media that promote Trump BS.

Shockin did not investigate the owner Burisma. He shelved the case.
 

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