If Jesus walked into modern America, would he sound like a capitalist, or more like a homeless socialist preaching compassion and anti-materialism?

[BrokeLoser]

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I wish I could say specifically how much my conservative Christian community does for the poor, but there are too many doxxers here.

Not being too specific, my parish recently raised $3K for needy mothers and $3K for an ultrasound machine, to show mothers their babies before they make the decision to kill them. Statistically, very many of those mothers see their babies on the US and it saves the babies' lives.

We've also donated a huge amount of school supplies for the needy kids in our town as they get ready to go back to school.

My church spends a lot of time and money feeding, clothing and housing the homeless.

I personally give a monthly donation to both a maternity home that saves the lives of children at risk of abortion, and to the hungry in my community.

We have never seen any evidence that the leftists here ever give to anyone but themselves.


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Lefties are takers…they are only noble and only give when armed with the checkbooks of others.

 

[Anomalism]

“Stand with the poor”…..I sure the hell don’t.
By and large our “poor” are evil individuals and I don’t stand with evil.
Anomalism what percentage of our “poor” are perpetrators of all things bad in our nation?

I have no idea.

I meant it when I said I don't really have a concrete stance, or some underlying agenda. I just thought about this and wanted to see what y'all would say.

 

[OldFlame]

I don't think either side would be respected by Jesus if I'm being honest. I'm not calling the left better. I'm not calling conservatives bad people. I just think Jesus would have a whole lot of issues with everybody, including his followers.

Non-believers don't care about Jesus. That's why I addressed the right. They tend to be more religious I think.

Well I asked you what He would have issues with specifically, but you didn't really answer.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Lefties are takers…they are only noble and only give when armed with the checkbooks of others.

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Beautifully said.


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[Anomalism]

Well I asked you what He would have issues with specifically, but you didn't really answer.

Do you think he wouldn't have issues? I don't think I really need to make a list. I think you probably know it's true if you're being honest with yourself.

 

[Midnight FM]

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I wish I could say specifically how much my conservative Christian community does for the poor, but there are too many doxxers here.

Not being too specific, my parish recently raised $3K for needy mothers and $3K for an ultrasound machine, to show mothers their babies before they make the decision to kill them.

I think if we showed people that a zygote looks like this, then every reasonable person would agree that it's not a baby, and there would obviously be no problem with killing it:

Ironically, though, you're probably only showing them pictures of what it looks like much later during the pregnancy.

 

[OldFlame]

“Stand with the poor”…..I sure the hell don’t.
By and large our “poor” are evil individuals and I don’t stand with evil.
Anomalism what percentage of our “poor” are perpetrators of all things bad in our nation?

That's another discussion though. I would definitely argue that if you are able bodied and poor today, then it's your own fault. There are plenty of opportunities in a capitalist society to make your way. Now those that have mental or physical impairments, that's a different story, and capitalism is the system that generates the wealth in a society where people like that can be helped. I haven't seen a valid argument from the op showing how being a capitalist is opposed to Christ's teachings.

 

[Anomalism]

"Individualism and nationalism" are somewhat antithetical to each other.

I've seen a lot of conservatives integrate both into their world views. Do you disagree?

 

[OldFlame]

Do you think he wouldn't have issues? I don't think I really need to make a list. I think you probably know it's true if you're being honest with yourself.

Well something is obviously giving you that opinion, yet you can't seem to elaborate at all on it?

 

[OldFlame]

I think if we showed people that a zygote looks like this, then every reasonable person would agree that it's not a baby, and there would obviously be no problem with killing it:


Ironically, though, you're probably only showing them pictures of what it looks like much later during the pregnancy.

Are you implying that abortions don't happen at those stages?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I think if we showed people that a zygote looks like this, then every reasonable person would agree that it's not a baby, and there would obviously be no problem with killing it:

Ironically, though, you're probably only showing them pictures of what it looks like much later during the pregnancy.

Off topic but why do those same “reasonable people” believe a freshly laid eagles egg is in-fact an Eagle?

 

[Midnight FM]

Are you implying that abortions don't happen at those stages?

They may, but some people claim that even prior to the development of a brain or consciousness, that a zygote is still the equivalent of a baby, when it obviously isn't.

 

[Anomalism]

Well something is obviously giving you that opinion, yet you can't seem to elaborate at all on it?

It seems like you want a way to undermine what I said, even though I think at least part of you feels that it's true.

I'm not saying the Democrats are better. I just think conservatives tend to care more about the teachings of Jesus.

 

[OldFlame]

It seems like you want a way to undermine what I said, even though I think at least part of you feels that it's true.

I'm not saying the Democrats are better. I just think conservatives tend to care more about the teachings of Jesus.

No, there's nothing to undermine. I'm asking you what specifically backs your opinion, and you have never answered. You haven't given a valid reason in the debate as to why you think the way you do. There's not any part of me that feels it's true either.

 

[Anomalism]

No, there's nothing to undermine. I'm asking you what specifically backs your opinion, and you have never answered. You haven't given a valid reason in the debate as to why you think the way you do. There's not any part of me that feels it's true either.

If everything I have said so far hasn't done anything to satisfy your desire for me to back up what I said, then I probably won't achieve that.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I've seen a lot of conservatives integrate both into their world views. Do you disagree?

"Individualism and nationalism" are somewhat antithetical to each other.

Not at all.
I think you’re confused….Nationalism is not about the citizenry but the framework and construct of the nation, it’s founding documents, its value system and moral order, its history, traditions, culture and heritage…you know, all the things lefties detest.

 

[Anomalism]

No, there's nothing to undermine. I'm asking you what specifically backs your opinion, and you have never answered. You haven't given a valid reason in the debate as to why you think the way you do. There's not any part of me that feels it's true either.

Do you think Jesus would be satisfied with the outlook of modern conservatism? Do you think he would have voted for Trump, or would he would be frustrated and disappointed with the entire situation?

Before anybody asks, no, I don't think he'd vote for Democrats.

 

[0311]

A lot of religious folks in the U.S., particularly Christians, tend to align with right wing politics. Limited government, free market capitalism, rugged individualism, and the idea that everyone should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I can’t help but wonder, is that really in line with the figure they follow?

Jesus, at least based on the texts we have, wasn’t exactly the embodiment of a capitalist. He wasn’t born into wealth. He didn’t seek political or economic power. He spent time with outcasts, healed the sick for free, fed the hungry without asking if they deserved it, and told a rich man to give up everything he had if he wanted to truly follow him.

He flipped tables at the temple when it turned into a business. He said it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. He spoke out against greed constantly. There's even the parable of the laborers in the vineyard, where everyone gets paid the same, no matter how long they worked. That’s not exactly a merit based wage system.

Yet in modern political discourse you’ll hear Christians arguing against welfare programs, universal healthcare, housing support, and debt relief, calling them handouts or socialism. If we're being honest, wasn’t Jesus kind of a walking embodiment of these things? Would he have been for or against policies like that?

This isn’t to say all Christians are like this, or that faith and politics should always align a certain way, but there’s a tension here that I think deserves more discussion.

I’m not trying to be snarky. I’m genuinely curious how people reconcile that gap.

Yeshua (proper spelling) supposedly threw the money lenders out of the temple, ReNaziKlans would label him an illegal alien and put him in a cage

 

[Chuz Life]

I was curious how conservative Christians reconcile the differences between Jesus and modern conservative outlooks.

Ok.

Thanks for the direct answer.

I'm out.

 

[Anomalism]

Yeshua (proper spelling) supposedly threw the money lenders out of the temple, ReNaziKlans would label him an illegal alien and put him in a cage

Not gonna lie. I doubt Jesus would have been cool with abortion. Your thoughts?