If Jesus walked into modern America, would he sound like a capitalist, or more like a homeless socialist preaching compassion and anti-materialism?

[Moonglow]

If Jesus walked into modern America, would he sound like a capitalist, or more like a homeless socialist preaching compassion, anti-materialism, and c​

Jesus would be denied entry into the US and then detained like the filthy illegal he is and then deported to an African shithole while being beaten and mocked.

 

[Anomalism]

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I'm not making laws here, just discussion.

 

[MisterBeale]

Heeeeeeere's JESUS!



"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’

“The King will answer them, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

“Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’

“Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” — Matthew 25:31-46.

You'll notice, he always talks about the people doing charity and helping each other.

That is a hell of a lot different than saying the government should force people to do the same.

 

[Anomalism]

If Jesus was reincarnated today would anybody notice or listen? I guess if he started performing miracles again they might. What if he just had his words?

 

[Anomalism]

You'll notice, he always talks about the people doing charity and helping each other.

That is a hell of a lot different than saying the government should force people to do the same.

I didn't say he would be a socialist. I was asking if people would interpret him as such.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I didn't say he would be a socialist. I was asking if people would interpret him as such.

He would definitely care about the poor more than most posters on this board.

 

[g5000]

There was no such thing as socialism back in those days

O'rly?

Do you need some cites of Jesus directing his followers to give away all their possessions to the poor?

, and government forcing people to do things against their will is pretty much what the Christ fought against.

While I believe Jesus would be disappointed in the materialist attitudes and values of both the entire planet, and Christians in particular, he would probably be more offended by authoritarian governments and other entities trying to force their agendas upon the masses.


Government socialism is an anathema to Christian freedom of thought and conscious principles.

No one should be forced to do anything, or have the wealth stolen from against their will.

. . if they are, they are encouraged to peacefully comply, as material items are not the focus of Christian teachings.


Charity is only real when it comes from the heart, not the STATE.

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 25:14-30 - New International Version

The Parable of the Bags of Gold - “Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his wealth to them. To one he gave five bags of gold, to another two bags, and to another one bag, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. The man who had...

www.biblegateway.com

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That parable is not about gold or the acquiring of material wealth. You do realize that, right?

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Also, did you know some of our Founders were proto-socialists?

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[OldFlame]

To be clear I don't really have a concrete stance on this as usual. I just thought it would be an interesting topic to get perspective on.

Jesus was speaking to the individual, not to the society as a whole. Jesus was about personal salvation, not seeking that through the government, but thru how you live your own life and what impact you have on those that you come directly into contact with. If you follow His words and you are a rich man and you aren't doing everything you can with that money to help others and spread His gospel, then you aren't really following Him. I don't think He was political at all, I don't think He would say to surrender all of your possessions/money to the government and sit around and wait for them do dole out your 'fair share' either. Apparently, a lot of people on the left think that would be His position though, not sure where they get that from either.

 

[Chuz Life]

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Because that is precisely what MAGA is doing, to the detriment of their religion. The MAGA version of religion is turning people away from Christianity.

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I've never had MAGA turn against me for my not being religious.

 

[MisterBeale]

Do you need some cites of Jesus directing his followers to give away all their possessions to the poor?

No, because that is an entirely different animal than making statements that the government should do the same.

How do you not get that?

 

[MisterBeale]

That parable is not about gold or the acquiring of material wealth. You do realize that, right?

I do.

Now tell me why that parable was used as an analogy?

 

[g5000]

No, because that is an entirely different animal than making statements that the government should do the same.

How do you not get that?

Your kind of thinking has led many to fall prey to the false preaching of the "prosperity gospel".

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[OldFlame]

If Jesus was reincarnated today would anybody notice or listen? I guess if he started performing miracles again they might. What if he just had his words?

He would be mocked by the atheist left, and anyone that followed Him would be mocked as well.

 

[BluesLegend]

If Jesus walked into modern America, would he sound like a capitalist​

Before or after he turned the godless heathen Democrats into pillars of salt?

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm not making laws here, just discussion.

So, what's the use?

We know what the amendment says.

 

[MisterBeale]

Also, did you know some of our Founders were proto-socialists?

No they weren't.

The were proto-communalists, or proto-mutualists. That is very different than government ownership of property and companies.

Henry George - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Anomalism]

So, what's the use?

We know what the amendment says.

I was curious how conservative Christians reconcile the differences between Jesus and modern conservative outlooks.

 

[MisterBeale]

Your kind of thinking has led many to fall prey to the false preaching of the "prosperity gospel".

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[BrokeLoser]

A lot of religious folks in the U.S., particularly Christians, tend to align with right wing politics. Limited government, free market capitalism, rugged individualism, and the idea that everyone should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I can’t help but wonder, is that really in line with the figure they follow?

Jesus, at least based on the texts we have, wasn’t exactly the embodiment of a Wall Street capitalist. He wasn’t born into wealth. He didn’t seek political power. He spent time with outcasts, healed the sick for free, fed the hungry without asking if they deserved it, and told a rich man to give up everything he had if he wanted to truly follow him.

He flipped tables at the temple when it turned into a business. He said it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. He spoke out against greed constantly. There's even the parable of the laborers in the vineyard, where everyone gets paid the same, no matter how long they worked. That’s not exactly a merit based wage system.

Yet in modern political discourse you’ll hear Christians arguing against welfare programs, universal healthcare, housing support, and debt relief, calling them handouts or socialism. If we're being honest, wasn’t Jesus kind of a walking embodiment of these things?

This isn’t to say all Christians are like this, or that faith and politics should always align a certain way, but there’s a tension here that I think deserves more discussion. Are we worshipping Jesus the man, or Jesus the mascot of a political ideology?

I’m not trying to be snarky. I’m genuinely curious how people reconcile that gap.

If Jesus walked into modern America, would he sound like a capitalist, or more like a homeless socialist preaching compassion and anti-materialism?​

He’d go full old testament Genesis 19 on this disgusting ****** infested perverted shithole and burn it all to the ******* ground and g5000 knows it.

 

[MisterBeale]

Apparently, a lot of people on the left think that would be His position though, not sure where they get that from either.

I'm always entertained by leftists that don't even believe in god rolling out the old, WWJD argument, as if they understand the implications of what you just wrote.

Thank you.