If Jefferson founded Republican Party in 1793, liberalism has no place in our history

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Sad but true, our liberals spied for Stalin's big liberal govt and never had any respect or understanding of Jeffersonian/Madisonian freedom from big liberal govt. In fact, our Constitution was little more than an attempt to make liberalism illegal in America.

 

[norwegen]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

yes and they also forget that the second Jefferson and Madison got wind of what the Federalists wanted they formed the Republican Party and crushed.

 

[norwegen]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

yes and they also forget that the second Jefferson and Madison got wind of what the Federalists wanted they formed the Republican Party and crushed.

Indeed, once Madison began to realize the trending power-mongering of the Federalists, he abandoned that party.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

yes and they also forget that the second Jefferson and Madison got wind of what the Federalists wanted they formed the Republican Party and crushed.

Indeed, once Madison began to realize the trending power-mongering of the Federalists, he abandoned that party.

yes and when the Republicans won the election of 1800 they called it the Second American Revolution. It established that the first revolution had not only been abut freedom from the British govt but freedom from all govt in general.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

1) except the current Democratic Party holds the opposite philosophy of Jefferson's Republican party

2) except the modern Republcan Party holds the exact limited govt philosophy of Jefferson's Party

Modern Democrats are more Marxist than American. Do you understand?

 

[norwegen]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

Jacksonian Democrats held some of the views that Jeffersonian Republicans did, such as opposition to implied powers and national banks, but Jeffersonian Republicans in no way resembled "current" Democrats.

The modern Republican Party - the party founded in 1854 - was as much a party of Whigs as the Jeffersonian party was. In any case, the party of republicanism was always in opposition to parties of government control, be it monarchy or democracy.

That liberals have tried to claim Jefferson as a Democrat only attests to their attempts to revise history.

 

[regent]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

1) except the current Democratic Party holds the opposite philosophy of Jefferson's Republican party

2) except the modern Republcan Party holds the exact limited govt philosophy of Jefferson's Party

Modern Democrats are more Marxist than American. Do you understand?

Sounds like your getting ready to declare the size of government as part of of a political ideology. Might want to check on political ideologies first so you don't make that elementary mistake.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Sounds like your getting ready to declare the size of government as part of of a political ideology.

getting ready?? Conservatives have been doing that since Aristotle introduced the concept of freedom from big liberal govt 2500 years ago. Sorry to rock your world.

 

[norwegen]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

1) except the current Democratic Party holds the opposite philosophy of Jefferson's Republican party

2) except the modern Republcan Party holds the exact limited govt philosophy of Jefferson's Party

Modern Democrats are more Marxist than American. Do you understand?

Sounds like your getting ready to declare the size of government as part of of a political ideology. Might want to check on political ideologies first so you don't make that elementary mistake.

Misspelling you're is an elementary mistake.

Democracy - a government in which the people rule - is a huge government.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

I will ignore, other than this comment, Eddy's many-times failed OP on Jefferson and the Democratic-Party. Not to worry, paperview will be along to torment him on this (once again) in awhile.

My point is, norwegan, that Marshall, Washington, Adams, Hamilton, the young Madison, Jay, etc., would smile at you, shake their collective head, and give you a piece of cheese.

The federalists had no desire for a monarchy, not even Adams and Hamilton.

 

[norwegen]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

I will ignore, other than this comment, Eddy's many-times failed OP on Jefferson and the Democratic-Party. Not to worry, paperview will be along to torment him on this (once again) in awhile.

My point is, norwegan, that Marshall, Washington, Adams, Hamilton, the young Madison, Jay, etc., would smile at you, shake their collective head, and give you a piece of cheese.

The federalists had no desire for a monarchy, not even Adams and Hamilton.

Sure, no one thought Washington ought to be a king, eh.

 

[rightwinger]

How many of these lame Jefferson was a Republican threads has Eddie started now?

Been a while but good to see him back to his old self trying to sneak the same crap through

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Lefties think our founding was leftist because the Federalists won the constitutional debate. However, they ignore the fact that the Constitution prevented Federalist desires to expand the central authority into a fiscal-military, British-style monarchy.

I will ignore, other than this comment, Eddy's many-times failed OP on Jefferson and the Democratic-Party. Not to worry, paperview will be along to torment him on this (once again) in awhile.

My point is, norwegan, that Marshall, Washington, Adams, Hamilton, the young Madison, Jay, etc., would smile at you, shake their collective head, and give you a piece of cheese.

The federalists had no desire for a monarchy, not even Adams and Hamilton.

Sure, no one thought Washington ought to be a king, eh.

OMG yes Jefferson founded the Republican Party( in his mind anyway) at a dinner party with Hamilton during which Hamilton said he admired the British govt more than any other!
That spelled the end of Federalism!

 

[JakeStarkey]

I will ignore, other than this comment, Eddy's many-times failed OP on Jefferson and the Democratic-Party. Not to worry, paperview will be along to torment him on this (once again) in awhile.

My point is, norwegan, that Marshall, Washington, Adams, Hamilton, the young Madison, Jay, etc., would smile at you, shake their collective head, and give you a piece of cheese.

The federalists had no desire for a monarchy, not even Adams and Hamilton.

Sure, no one thought Washington ought to be a king, eh.

OMG yes Jefferson founded the Republican Party( in his mind anyway) at a dinner party with Hamilton during which Hamilton said he admired the British govt more than any other!
That spelled the end of Federalism!

norwegan can share his cheese with you, but since you are both capitalists, he will charge you

 

[regent]

Sounds like your getting ready to declare the size of government as part of of a political ideology.

getting ready?? Conservatives have been doing that since Aristotle introduced the concept of freedom from big liberal govt 2500 years ago. Sorry to rock your world.

Of course Aristotle believed that the state was all, but where did he mention size?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sounds like your getting ready to declare the size of government as part of of a political ideology.

getting ready?? Conservatives have been doing that since Aristotle introduced the concept of freedom from big liberal govt 2500 years ago. Sorry to rock your world.

Of course Aristotle believed that the state was all, but where did he mention size?

Aristotle was the teacher of kings: he of course was a statist

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Of course Aristotle believed that the state was all,

actually you mean Plato. If Aristotle believed that I will pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal tail between your legs

 

[JWBooth]

The party Jefferson founded became the current Democratic Party.

The modern Republican Party didn't exist until right before the Civil War.

1) except the current Democratic Party holds the opposite philosophy of Jefferson's Republican party

2) except the modern Republcan Party holds the exact limited govt philosophy of Jefferson's Party

Modern Democrats are more Marxist than American. Do you understand?

Except that the Republican Party was formed from the ashes of the Whig Party and adopted its primary points, a strong central government, national debt, doling out money from the treasury to favored corporate interests.