If I lived in Ca I would be pissed

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With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
 
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California is ranked 2 on state tax per gallon of gas at 55.5 cents. Thats mind boggling expensive. They should have the best highways in the universe with that type of tax.
 
California is ranked 2 on state tax per gallon of gas at 55.5 cents. Thats mind boggling expensive. They should have the best highways in the universe with that type of tax.

48.5 cents in Cowtown and the roads in Tarrant County are worse now than in the 40s. Our roads should be paved with gold.
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
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With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

You would think so, but DC Metro area made that mistake and it is why they lead the nation in time wasted stuck in traffic. They had the brilliant idea that they could stop sprawl by not continuing to upgrade roads infrastructure with growing demand and reroute money into mass transit. It did not work.
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

You would think so, but DC Metro area made that mistake and it is why they lead the nation in time wasted stuck in traffic. They had the brilliant idea that they could stop sprawl by not continuing to upgrade roads infrastructure with growing demand and reroute money into mass transit. It did not work.
I have taken the DC Metro since it first opened
Once you reach city limits, it is the best way to get around. I usually park at one of the Metro stations near the beltway and then take the Metro to where I am going

LA should be so lucky
 
California is ranked 2 on state tax per gallon of gas at 55.5 cents. Thats mind boggling expensive. They should have the best highways in the universe with that type of tax.

48.5 cents in Cowtown and the roads in Tarrant County are worse now than in the 40s. Our roads should be paved with gold.


Oh I know. I've been up there. Its like driving through an area hit with mortar rounds.
 
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

It's outright fraud.

California had been collecting higher taxes on motor fuels than other states, for quite some time, supposedly to maintain the highways, and then fraudulently redirecting that money to other uses. With not enough of that money going to maintain our roads, they raised the taxes a few years ago, with the purpose of those taxes being explicitly stated as being for road maintenance. And they lied, in order to get a ballot proposition defeated to undo that last increase in taxes, and, in fact, to authorize them to raise these taxes again according to their whims, which they very recently did.

And now these new funds are falling to the exact same waste and fraud and misappropriation that the previous funds fell to.

Governor Newsom, and any legislators who are complicit in this fraud, need to be removed from office, criminally prosecuted,and locked up in prison for a very, very long time. Alas, it almost certain won't happen; they'll be allowed to get away with it this time, and the next time, and the next time after that, and so on.
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

You would think so, but DC Metro area made that mistake and it is why they lead the nation in time wasted stuck in traffic. They had the brilliant idea that they could stop sprawl by not continuing to upgrade roads infrastructure with growing demand and reroute money into mass transit. It did not work.
I have taken the DC Metro since it first opened
Once you reach city limits, it is the best way to get around. I usually park at one of the Metro stations near the beltway and then take the Metro to where I am going

LA should be so lucky

Yea I totally disagree with you about it being the best way to get around unless you really really like to walk.
 
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

It's outright fraud.

California had been collecting higher taxes on motor fuels than other states, for quite some time, supposedly to maintain the highways, and then fraudulently redirecting that money to other uses. With not enough of that money going to maintain our roads, they raised the taxes a few years ago, with the purpose of those taxes being explicitly stated as being for road maintenance. And they lied, in order to get a ballot proposition defeated to undo that last increase in taxes, and, in fact, to authorize them to raise these taxes again according to their whims, which they very recently did.

And now these new funds are falling to the exact same waste and fraud and misappropriation that the previous funds fell to.

Governor Newsom, and any legislators who are complicit in this fraud, need to be removed from office, criminally prosecuted,and locked up in prison for a very, very long time. Alas, it almost certain won't happen; they'll be allowed to get away with it this time, and the next time, and the next time after that, and so on.
Those gas taxes are for general transportation issues, not just automotive

LA sold out to auto transit in the 1950s. They had a working trolly system that was effective in allowing commuters to get around the city. Corrupt politicians sold off the trolly lines and tore them up.
The highway system has never been able to handle the traffic loads
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

You would think so, but DC Metro area made that mistake and it is why they lead the nation in time wasted stuck in traffic. They had the brilliant idea that they could stop sprawl by not continuing to upgrade roads infrastructure with growing demand and reroute money into mass transit. It did not work.
I have taken the DC Metro since it first opened
Once you reach city limits, it is the best way to get around. I usually park at one of the Metro stations near the beltway and then take the Metro to where I am going

LA should be so lucky

Yea I totally disagree with you about it being the best way to get around unless you really really like to walk.

I used to go to the Pentagon and Crystal City. Metro was the best way to get around from Reagan National and Union Station. Easy access to hotels, restaurants and the mall area
 
That's why I no longer live in California.

Life is too short to go around angry.
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice

You would think so, but DC Metro area made that mistake and it is why they lead the nation in time wasted stuck in traffic. They had the brilliant idea that they could stop sprawl by not continuing to upgrade roads infrastructure with growing demand and reroute money into mass transit. It did not work.
I have taken the DC Metro since it first opened
Once you reach city limits, it is the best way to get around. I usually park at one of the Metro stations near the beltway and then take the Metro to where I am going

LA should be so lucky

Yea I totally disagree with you about it being the best way to get around unless you really really like to walk.

I used to go to the Pentagon and Crystal City. Metro was the best way to get around from Reagan National and Union Station. Easy access to hotels, restaurants and the mall area

Depends on where you want to go. I lived in Fairfax Braddock Road Area and had to commute to the Hill. There aren't enough stops around the Mall, particularly the west end of it. Union station to the mall is not particularly pedestrian friendly and even Smithsonian Station is not that well placed. It is fine if you are young and able, but for elderly people or the disabled, DC is not a good place to visit.
 
California is ranked 2 on state tax per gallon of gas at 55.5 cents. Thats mind boggling expensive. They should have the best highways in the universe with that type of tax.

48.5 cents in Cowtown and the roads in Tarrant County are worse now than in the 40s. Our roads should be paved with gold.
Fort Worth named second-best city for drivers
Charlotte, N.C., took the title of best city for drivers owing to low scores across the board, including good road quality and fewer cases of drivers with DUIs. Texas performed strongly in the rating, with four cities (Fort Worth, Dallas, San Antonio and Houston) appearing in the top 10.

The full results:


  1. Charlotte
  2. Fort Worth
  3. Chicago
  4. Philadelphia
  5. Columbus
  6. Denver
  7. New York City
  8. Dallas
  9. San Antonio
  10. Houston
 
California is ranked 2 on state tax per gallon of gas at 55.5 cents. Thats mind boggling expensive. They should have the best highways in the universe with that type of tax.

48.5 cents in Cowtown and the roads in Tarrant County are worse now than in the 40s. Our roads should be paved with gold.
Fort Worth named second-best city for drivers
Charlotte, N.C., took the title of best city for drivers owing to low scores across the board, including good road quality and fewer cases of drivers with DUIs. Texas performed strongly in the rating, with four cities (Fort Worth, Dallas, San Antonio and Houston) appearing in the top 10.

The full results:


  1. Charlotte
  2. Fort Worth
  3. Chicago
  4. Philadelphia
  5. Columbus
  6. Denver
  7. New York City
  8. Dallas
  9. San Antonio
  10. Houston
I moved from Charlotte to Ft Worth in May. I agree Charlotte has excellent roads. I lived there for 41 years and the roads are good. Many, many roads in Ft Worth are full of chuckholes for miles and are a hazard. I commuted between the two cities for 10 year until we settled here for good.
but Ft Worth does not belong in 2nd place from what I've seen.
 
With a stroke of his pen, California Governor Gavin Newsom has redirected part of the money you pay at the pump with the state’s gas tax to the railway system and other projects.
Assemblyman Patterson says, “One of the very first things Governor Newsom decides to do, is put forward an executive order and his people at Caltrans have decided they are going to terminate addition north and south freeway lanes on Highway 99 in Tulare and Madera County. I’m almost speechless with response to this.”
Assemblyman Patterson says, “When you pay for gas and you pay a gas tax, a railroad is not a highway. This is bait and switch. This is saying one thing and doing something else. I just think all who represent California both Democrats and Republicans have better step up and stand up and say Mr. Governor you can’t do this.”
CBS47 Investigation: Gov. Newsom redirects gas tax money. It won’t fund highways, railway system

It really is the ol' bait and switch....and the Ca. taxpayer once again is getting screwed.
This is liberalism on display
Been to LA many times

Their highway system is overburdened and air pollution has always been a problem. For one of our largest cities, their mass transit is almost nonexistent. Using gas tax to improve mass transit is a wise choice
RW, I lived in that area for over 40 years.....they like their cars, mass transit has been a bust every time.
 
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