If Canada offers Americans citizenship here, the only obligation is that you bow to our King and allow government to rule your life, would you accept?

[frigidweirdo]

As I understand it the agreement going back to 1867 is that the Monarchy can basically reclaim 89% of Canadian land at their discretion. Again, it is about the "illusion of ownership".

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain. To such a degree that I don't even technically own my land or house, even if I was a billionaire I couldn't ever own it

In fact, I believe when I purchased the deed for our home it had British crest somewhere in the form, essentially allowing me "leasehold" over the land. Therefore, we all remain slaves and serfs, never truly independent and free as I've learned first hand by the covert police apparatus:

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Does the Queen own all Crown land in Canada? No, the Queen does not own all Crown land in Canada. While Queen Elizabeth is mainly a legal figurehead in Canada, the vast majority of Crown Land in Canada is owned by the Crown as an institution. About half of the land is administered by the … Does...

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Does England still own land in Canada?​

The land of Canada is solely owned by Queen Elizabeth II, who is also the head of state. Only 9.7% of the total land is privately owned, while the rest is Crown Land. The land is administered on behalf of the Crown by various agencies or departments of the government of Canada.

Who is the biggest landowner in the world?​

The largest landowner in the world currently is King Charles III of England. King Charles III and the British Royal Family own more than 6,600,000,000 acres of land around the world. They technically own many territories around the globe, amounting to 1/6 of the surface of the planet.

Do you own the land your house is on in Canada?​

In Canada, all land is owned by the Crown and administered by the government. Private landowners are not owners at all but mere tenants.

Does King Charles rule Canada?​

Canada is a constitutional monarchy whereby the Sovereign is Canada’s Head of State. King Charles III automatically became Sovereign of Canada on the passing of his predecessor, Queen Elizabeth II. Charles Philip Arthur George was born at Buckingham Palace on November 14, 1948.

Ownership of land is always an illusion, as it's only ownership within the current political system, which could be toppled, and the government could take that land and put some structure on top of it anyway, and the value of the land can be destroyed by anyone wishing to do so.

The UK monarch has literally no power in Canada. It can't demand all that land, as the Canadian govt could easily topple the political system and turn itself into a country without a monarch at the drop of a hat without anyone even noticing (unless they look at the coins).

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
Still don't try to deflect. It only contributes to the seriousness of the situation.
You know what the weather is like there, I bet you own more than one snow shovel......

The snow is melting. We receive the same temperature they do in NY, Chicago or Minnesota I assume

 

[ozro]

The snow is melting. We receive the same temperature they do in NY, Chicago or Minnesota I assume

Aahhhh, finally the truth comes out.
Finland should be on that list....
I had snow at my place a few nights ago. It almost covered the ground. It was so cold I had to wear a jacket the whole next morning.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is a fair deal for all those who want to move to Canada. Just accept the king, bow when needed and accept that the police state owns you and your property though you can live every day with the illusion that you are free.

How many Americans would accept this deal as a percentage? 40%, 60%, 5%?

I would seriously recommend this to one group: Black Democrats.

if, in the year 2025, you still believe that you are held back by the history of slavery, Jim Crow, and resistance to the Civil Rights Movement, and you believe that institutional racism are not only real, but insurmountable obstacles for your success, take the shockedCanadian's deal. Or just move to Canada without it.

You'll have much less of a chip on your shoulder about having to bow to King Charlie and the rest of it.

I've met only a few Canadian blacks, and they seem very much like the kinds of American blacks who are very light-skinned, raised by a mostly white family you sometimes meet. In other words, they act white in that they have no chip on their shoulder because they don't believe that they will work hard and not be allowed to succeed. No chip on their shoulder.

BTW, the reason I rarely meet a Canadian black is that they have no desire to even visit a country in which they would be associated with black Democrats. In my opinion.

 

[JGalt]

This is a fair deal for all those who want to move to Canada. Just accept the king, bow when needed and accept that the police state owns you and your property though you can live every day with the illusion that you are free.

How many Americans would accept this deal as a percentage? 40%, 60%, 5%?

Wait....what??

Canada has a king?

 

[braalian]

It's really just a symbolic kinda thing. Canada is self governing.

He is the king of Canada separate of being the king of the UK, or the king of Australia.

Yes, it’s become a symbolic role, but the idea that him being king of Canada indicates that Canada is still “part of” the United Kingdom is a common misconception

 

[Leo123]

Most people don't know that they actually cannot fully own their own land. Governments own land and can take it away under certain conditions. All we have is a bundle of rights.

 

[braalian]

The snow is melting. We receive the same temperature they do in NY, Chicago or Minnesota I assume

Yes, the southern most part of Canada has a similar climate to the northern most parts of the USA that immediately border it.

This is obvious and should go without saying.

But the majority of Canada has a much colder climate than the majority of the US.

Also obvious.

 

[braalian]

Wait....what??

Canada has a king?

Yes, of course.

The monarch of the United Kingdom is also the monarch of Canada.

Hes also the monarch of Australia. And New Zealand. And Jamaica. And many other Commonwealth countries. Each role is separate. If one country declares Charles is no longer King, that has no impact as king of the others.

This is basic, common knowledge. Didn’t you ever notice queen Elizabeth is on much of their money?

In everyday life, this is purely a symbolic role and has zero impact on anything.

Anyone implying it makes Canadians modern day “serfs” or something is either joking or has mental issues.

The main reason Canada has never gotten rid of the monarchy is a mixture of nostalgia and indifference. It has no impact, and some still like the traditions, so it’s not seen as worth the effort to get rid of it

 

[Dante]

This is a fair deal for all those who want to move to Canada. Just accept the king, bow when needed and accept that the police state owns you and your property though you can live every day with the illusion that you are free.

How many Americans would accept this deal as a percentage? 40%, 60%, 5%?

Calling Bullshit

 

[shockedcanadian]

Calling Bullshit

Is that a no then, you dont accept the conditions?

 

[braalian]

This is a fair deal for all those who want to move to Canada. Just accept the king, bow when needed and accept that the police state owns you and your property though you can live every day with the illusion that you are free.

How many Americans would accept this deal as a percentage? 40%, 60%, 5%?

More unhinged melodrama and ranting.

You have free healthcare. Use it to seek psychiatric care.

 

[Crepitus]

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Then why did Trudeau meet the King just last week? Why was there outrage that the King didn't speak out against Trump calling us the 51st State? Why has the monarchy been wearing clothes to represent support for Canada?

When Canada fought in WWII it wasn't for our sake, it was for the monarchy. Even marketing posters promoted fighting for the King.

Look, it is what it is. I have a king. I was born into it. I don't care if changes or doesn't because I know civil liberties don't exist here regardless.

Basically "if you are some poor sap and have a problem, the king doesn't run Canada". If you are a powerful person or politician, "come meet your king and get approval before your Bill can be passed or your influence approved".

This is what you left and what Canada fought to maintain. There is a reason so many leave for America. We'd love to have a King to ask for assistance when abuses occur but it all just amounts to plausible deniability and convenient "not under our jurisdiction"

I heard no outcry about Charles not saying anything.

Symbolic positions can still be supportive. In fact that's all they can be.

Canada fought in WWII because most of the free world did.

You really hate your country, don't you.

 

[braalian]

Why was there outrage that the King didn't speak out against Trump calling us the 51st State?

Because the monarchs never, ever, get involved in national politics. They aren’t supposed to express their personal opinions on such things.

That’s, like, one of their main rules

 

[shockedcanadian]

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I heard no outcry about Charles not saying anything.

Symbolic positions can still be supportive. In fact that's all they can be.

Canada fought in WWII because most of the free world did.

You really hate your country, don't you.

No, the abusers hate me, not the other way around and the docile obedience on thie forum thankfully isn't shared by so many patriotic Americans. If you want to rewrite history go ahead but I will not. We fought under British command, our soldiers were even sent to Juno beach in large numbers because the British didnt want to lose too many UK soldiers which might cause outrage with their population if it failed. One of many decisions which sent Canandians to their doom under British rule in uneven application of soldiers, Ive seen the videos from survivors of some failed de facto suicide missions who explained this treatment and they never forgave the British military decisions that cost countless Canandian lives while their admirals were safely on a ship watching the slaughter via binoculars.. Dieppe was one of many as I recall. Regardless, the OP is about the conditions Americans must accept in order to be granted citizenship here, I dont set the rules. You seem quite willing to defend them though as I simply state the facts, a bit unusual if you are American, no?